[Segaboy]

Howdy y'all...


I recently 'acquired' a Panasonic TU-DST50 DTV tuner with un-encrypted firewire out.


If I were to add a D-VHS recorder with a firewire input, such as the JVC 30K model, would I be able to archive as much HDTV as I want with this set-up???


Thanks!!!

 

[h2ofun]

search the old stuff and you will find more than you ever wanted.


dave

 

[ricka]

Segaboy,


Yes you could, the JVC will work but the Mits unit is a LOT cheaper. The key differences between the two are the JVC has component outputs (cool, but you won't need them because you have the DST50) and support for "DTheater".


The DTheater topic is a discussion in itself. Let's just say its not relevant to your question.


--Rick

 

[Don Landis]

I have the Mits and the DST50. The Mits will not see the signal from the DST50. Don't know about the JVC.

 

[gridleak]

The JVC will record if the DST50 has the firmware version that allows channel mapping. Otherwise you will need an HD1000 for recording.


The JVC will not play back through the DST50, and to the best of my knowledge the Mits won't either. In this case the JVC has the advantage of offering playback through it's own component output.

 

[ricka]

Bummer. There is a Panny D-VHS unit on E-Bay right now if you are interested. It's not mine, I just happen to notice it.


Sorry about the mis-information. I thought for sure I saw somewhere that someone made that work. However I think these guys would know better than I.


--Rick

 

[tmitchmd]

Can now confirm that the Mitsubishi DVHS VCR is a reliable, dropout free alternative to the JVC.

Plays back tapes made on the PV-HD1000 FLAWLESSLY. Just have a couple of days experience with it, but unlike the JVC 30K it is absolutely stellar with ATSC.


Using a 169time DTC100 that is. Will not playback through a firmware updated TU-DST50.

 

[leszek1]

Quote:

Originally posted by tmitchmd Can now confirm that the Mitsubishi DVHS VCR is a reliable, dropout free alternative to the JVC. Plays back tapes made on the PV-HD1000 FLAWLESSLY. Just have a couple of days experience with it, but unlike the JVC 30K it is absolutely stellar with ATSC. Using a 169time DTC100 that is. Will not playback through a firmware updated TU-DST50.

The JVC, just like the Mitsubishi never has any problems on the firewire outputs. All the drop outs are due to bugs in the MPEG2 decoder and it's AV outputs which include component for video and AC3 digital audio. Those are missing on the Mitsubishi anyway. If you are using JVC in the same way that you use the Mitsubishi then JVC DVHS is a reliable, dropout free VCR.

 

[tmitchmd]

Quote:

Originally posted by leszek1 The JVC, just like the Mitsubishi never has any problems on the firewire outputs. All the drop outs are due to bugs in the MPEG2 decoder and it's AV outputs which include component for video and AC3 digital audio. Those are missing on the Mitsubishi anyway. If you are using JVC in the same way that you use the Mitsubishi then JVC DVHS is a reliable, dropout free VCR.

Not true.


The JVC 30K remains plaqued with video hiccups and frequent audio drop-outs when playing back tapes recorded on the PV-HD1000.


Performance does seem to be better using the decoder on the DTC-100 but dropouts occur there as well.


The JVC 30KU was adapted from the Japanese model which also is somewhat ATSC "challenged."

 

[leszek1]

Quote:

Originally posted by tmitchmd Not true. The JVC 30K remains plaqued with video hiccups and frequent audio drop-outs when playing back tapes recorded on the PV-HD1000. Performance does seem to be better using the decoder on the DTC-100 but dropouts occur there as well. The JVC 30KU was adapted from the Japanese model which also is somewhat ATSC "challenged."

I don't have any Panasonic created tapes, so I cannot comment on that. But any tapes I have made on the JVC are perfect without any dropouts when played through the DCT100 and that's with the old firmware (I haven't sent my unit yet for the software upgrade.)


Leszek

 

[jamoka]

I'm getting a lot of very brief audio dropouts using tapes from the HD1000 played back with the JVC over firewire to the pc too. I hope that will be corrected with the software upgrade.


tmitchmd,


Good news about the Mits. I've been looking for an inexpensive deck to use for recording only.


Joe

 

[Pete Putman]

I have had a JVC HM-DH30000U for about two weeks. It plays back tapes made on both of my PV-HD1000s without any problems (with one exception).


I am also looking right now at a sample reel made on another PV-HD1000 and it contans 720p, 1080i, and 480i content. All is playing back without any droputs.


One engineer I know has suggested that head alignment is a problem on some JVC units. He had checked one out of the box and it required realignment. This could easily be the culprit.


BTW, my TU-DST50W with channel mapping will NOT work with the JVC deck. Neither will dubbing to the JVC from a PV-HD1000, although in both cases, the JVC displays on screen "Panasonic D-VHS" when connected via 1394.


The new Samsung SIR-T165 worked so well with the JVC unit at the NAB DTV Store that I'll just wait for it to come along in June. The two companies worked together to ensure a reliable 1394 interface between the STB and D-VCR.


Pete Putman KT2B

 

[tmitchmd]

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete Putman I have had a JVC HM-DH30000U for about two weeks. It plays back tapes made on both of my PV-HD1000s without any problems (with one exception). One engineer I know has suggested that head alignment is a problem on some JVC units. He had checked one out of the box and it required realignment. This could easily be the culprit. BTW, my TU-DST50W with channel mapping will NOT work with the JVC deck. Neither will dubbing to the JVC from a PV-HD1000, although in both cases, the JVC displays on screen "Panasonic D-VHS" when connected via 1394. The new Samsung SIR-T165 worked so well with the JVC unit at the NAB DTV Store that I'll just wait for it to come along in June. The two companies worked together to ensure a reliable 1394 interface between the STB and D-VCR. Pete Putman KT2B

Pete,


Thanks for your contributions.


Gridleak has painstakingly defined the elaborate ritual that is necessary to allow the JVC and TU-DST50 to successfully mate. Perhaps he would be willing to repeat it again, or can link us to his detailed instructions.


Although dubbing to the JVC from the Panasonic doesn't seem to work, the opposite is not true. One can dub quite nicely from the JVC to the PV-HD1000 with flawless results--both ATSC and BS (using the Japanese 30K).

 

[gridleak]

Pete: a discussion of the required firmware version is here . If you have the correct firmware, then the technique for beating your DST50 into submission is here .


You're probably correct about the JVC's alignment. My new 30kU has some difficulty reading one of the D-Theater tapes, and slight manual adjustment of the tracking helps the problem temporarily. That usually means that the alignment is far enough off to prevent auto-tracking from doing it's job successfully.

 

[MF70]

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[Cliff Watson]

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