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Regrets going from projector and huge screen to big flatscreen?

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I was thinking of moving in a couple of years and sell all my HT gear
Right now the time has come to change the bulb on my JVC projector
Maybe I should take advantage of my current situation (with the bulb change) by buying a 77" OLED or a 85" LED with Direct-LED backlight
My current projector screen is 120 inches in the 2.35:1 format
What are your experiences with going from maybe 120 inches to 77 inches?
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Yuck :cry: !!!! On top of losing overall screen size, you will now be seeing a smaller 2.40:1 scope image compared to a 1.85:1 flat image, which is the exact opposite of what the film maker intended.
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I have a 120" screen & one time one of the sports channels messed up the signal & it didn't fill the screen. I was extremely dissatisfied that it was so small, but when I measured it, it was 100".
I'll stick with a PJ.
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what are your needs and requirements? Thats the biggest question you need to ask yourself. True home theater gets pricey and takes a lot of space, but nothing beats the A/V impact of a good projector and Surround system. That being said, you really need a dedicated room to fully enjoy it - and do you plan to have that down the line? I had a full home theater setup and invested will over 30k into it all said and done - and this was with used gear and some handiwork. Now I roll with Sonos system and an 85 inch LED. Do i miss a projector? Of course, nothing beats the large screen. But, I dont have to be in a dark room- I can have daylight coming in and it doesnt wash out my colors as much. and my speakers are wireless other than power. While impressive for what they are, it just cant replicate the dynamics of a high end theater with dedicated amps and subs. So there is definitely a trade off. But only you can decide what will fit your needs currently and for the future - and if you are willing to sacrifice screen size for space and room lighting issues.

If not
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When I retire in the next couple of years, I will sell my HT to the home buyer as a package. From there I would go to a Sony Z9 8K 75-85" and sound bar in a dedicated room, unless something better comes along. As much as I love my HT, I'm going eazy peazy. Just my $0.02

Peace and blessings,

Azeke
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I was thinking of moving in a couple of years and sell all my HT gear
Right now the time has come to change the bulb on my JVC projector
Maybe I should take advantage of my current situation (with the bulb change) by buying a 77" OLED or a 85" LED with Direct-LED backlight
My current projector screen is 120 inches in the 2.35:1 format
What are your experiences with going from maybe 120 inches to 77 inches?
Earlier this year, I got my mother a 77" OLED and I have a 120" 2.37 screen in my theater. For several months, I was over at my mother's house every night. Image is great, but it just can't compete against my HT on the much larger screen. I have a 75" LED TV in my family room. Viewing it is watching a TV. Whereas the HT immerses you in the movie.
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When I retire in the next couple of years, I will sell my HT to the home buyer as a package. From there I would go to a Sony Z9 8K 75-85" and sound bar in a dedicated room, unless something better comes along. As much as I love my HT, I'm going eazy peazy. Just my $0.02

Peace and blessings,

Azeke
Once the HT is set up, what could be easier? I press one button to turn everything on and set to correct inputs. Then select movie or show and hit play. My HT actually takes less button pushes than my smart TV.
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Once the HT is set up, what could be easier? I press one button to turn everything on and set to correct inputs. Then select movie or show and hit play. My HT actually takes less button pushes than my smart TV.
Understood MG, but when I retire I'll be downsizing, so my room will be much smaller. Trying to keep things simpler.

Peace and blessings,

Azeke
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Understood MG, but when I retire I'll be downsizing, so my room will be much smaller. Trying to keep things simpler.

Peace and blessings,

Azeke
That makes sense. Don't think we will downsize. Daughter just got out of school and ended up getting a job where we live. Figure grand kids soon. :)
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I was thinking of moving in a couple of years and sell all my HT gear
Right now the time has come to change the bulb on my JVC projector
Maybe I should take advantage of my current situation (with the bulb change) by buying a 77" OLED or a 85" LED with Direct-LED backlight
My current projector screen is 120 inches in the 2.35:1 format
What are your experiences with going from maybe 120 inches to 77 inches?
Most regret it. I wouldn't do it unless the tv is 110 or 120 inches but then it will be blinding in hdr..

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When I retire in the next couple of years, I will sell my HT to the home buyer as a package. From there I would go to a Sony Z9 8K 75-85" and sound bar in a dedicated room, unless something better comes along. As much as I love my HT, I'm going eazy peazy. Just my $0.02

Peace and blessings,

Azeke
It might be nice to just be able to watch a movie without wondering if you could move your sub to the other corner and recalibrate it, or if you need a new center, or maybe just get a new sub, or if you need to recalibrate your pj, or ect. I get it.
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I have both - and there is no comparison. While my latest 75" Samsung mini-LED has blowout brightness and superior picture quality and HDR, the 1080p projector on a 106" screen kills it (with low light) - as far as experience go. Size trumps all else. (I use the projector exclusively for night-time movie watching; the TV for daytime movie watching and gaming and everything else).
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I have a 96 inch screen and after I mocked up an 86 inch size screen of a flat screen TV to compare, I couldn't see downsizing. I'm still using my 14 year old 720P Panasonic with the original bulb for Friday night to Sunday viewing and was looking at Laser PJs like LG or JVC in the 3K to 3.5K range as a replacement. Sitting 15 feet from the screen I still enjoy the Panasonic picture and it must have been manufactured and designed in Japan to last a long time. No issues and 8K hours on the bulb. I figured I would wait and see what is upcoming from Epson and others this year, but I need a 15.5 throw.

Then I read on one thread here that TCL will be releasing a 100 inch P715 QUHD to the US market.


and want to see it when and if it comes to the US .

This would fit nicely in my media room and be an easy to use at anytime big screen .
I go between a large PJ and a large flat panel each time I go up and down my basement stairs.

I love my livingroom TV. It's great for livingroom TV watching and video game playing. But I wouldn't want to rely on my livingroom TV when it was time to watch a proper movie.
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I'm also nearing retirement (about 5 years hopefully) and we're just not sure what we're going to do.

If not retiring, and possibly downsizing as well, there's absolutely no way I would ever take a television over my projector.

Put it this way... I bought a new OLED television to replace my old LCD. The picture on it was so fantastic that when I went upstairs to watch a movie on my RS20 I knew it was now time to upgrade.

It took a while before I could upgrade (figuring out what I wanted... reserving funds etc.) during that time... I STILL watched movies on my RS20. Even though the picture wasn't nearly as good, it just wasn't the same watching them on the TV.
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I'm also nearing retirement (about 5 years hopefully) and we're just not sure what we're going to do.

If not retiring, and possibly downsizing as well, there's absolutely no way I would ever take a television over my projector.

Put it this way... I bought a new OLED television to replace my old LCD. The picture on it was so fantastic that when I went upstairs to watch a movie on my RS20 I knew it was now time to upgrade.

It took a while before I could upgrade (figuring out what I wanted... reserving funds etc.) during that time... I STILL watched movies on my RS20. Even though the picture wasn't nearly as good, it just wasn't the same watching them on the TV.
***Who says you can't have the best of both worlds? Now that BenQ has come out with a lightweight, 4K short throw projector (TK700STi) - I've jumped back into the projector world after mothballing my BenQ W1080ST and acquiring a 75" 4K Sony 900F DV LCD TV. (Dual setup) Heck - - we'll probably move to a warmer climate next year (Arizona) and I'll either sell the PJ & new screen or take them with me (outside use only.)

We're looking at downsizing as well but I see a UST Laser PJ and a 100" to 120" fixed ALR screen in our future - - our living room. Not as nice as a dedicated theater which is more light controlled (I have that now with my small man cave) and certainly not the greatest of projectors but it still will afford me the ability to have that big screen experience. Sound wise - - I'll take most of my setup for Dolby Atmos and most likely replace the surrounds/Atmos height speakers with the mains staying. (L/C/R)

I don't think there is any right or wrong answer but if you've experienced the big screen - - even something as small as 100" (16 X 9) screen - - it's a whole new ballgame for movies and even sports. And while I enjoy my 75" LCD, I certainly missed my 100" big screen movies. The older technology (1080p Projector) and my cheapo FAVI screen crapping out contributed to me no longer using a projector. Oh yeah - - for that OLED experience, nothing beats our Sony OLED 48" A9S in a totally dark room.

But going from 120" to 77" has to involve major withdrawal symptoms. If you do downsize, seek out other AVS Forum Members (like the AA?) who are going through the same situation. Heck, start your own thread as a public service and support system for others taking that step. :>)
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It might be nice to just be able to watch a movie without wondering if you could move your sub to the other corner and recalibrate it, or if you need a new center, or maybe just get a new sub, or if you need to recalibrate your pj, or ect. I get it.
Except, you're retired. The perfect opportunity to play with changing settings every two days...
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I just retired and now I plan on getting serious. Just bought a 6050 plus a pair of GSG full Martys to use on the far end of the room to even out the 6 LLT subs by the screen and a minidsp 4X10. 😜
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Asking this question in this thread is like asking a bunch of vegans what their favorite steakhouse is. A good front projection setup can be pretty involved both financially and with respect to room treatments/requirements. Once someone has made that kind of commitment, its kinda hard to get that same person to say, "yeah, but I'd be just as happy with a big TV." So with that in mind, I can offer my experience and why I didn't throw my spare change at another PJ and instead went with a "big OLED".

My room is in a finished basement that is 26'x13'. My viewing area is about half that though at 13x13 light controlled and matte black walls - so every thing I say is with respect to my smaller space. I originally I had a 120" 16x9 screen paired with a (trigger warning) 1080p Benq PJ. Like many I also had a 65" OLED in the living room that was rarely used even though I preferred the image on it. When looking to upgrade I almost pulled the trigger on an NX7 and slightly smaller 110" screen, but then realized I could move my couch forward 2 feet reducing my viewing distance from 11' to 9' and get a ~35 fov with a 77" OLED. I expected the reduction in size to hurt... a lot. Thankfully I had the exact opposite experience. The panel itself feels huge in my room, and when I turned it on and watched Alita: Battle Angle in Dolby Vision I was blown away. I had been missing so much (4k and HDR) and wow, a 77" panel is much much larger than a 65". I have a hypothesis that the "big screen" effect is achieved by having an immersive fov for your preferred viewing distance, because that's what it feels like in my room. How can I move from a 120" screen to a 77" and it still feel big - and I've even had friends come over and literally say "woah, it's like IMAX," the sameone ones that had seen my projector setup. Now I know a lot of you are rolling your eyes at this point. Here's the thing, my panel is in a completely light controlled batcave with matte black walls. When the lights are off, the panel feels bigger than with the lights slightly dimmed and I think this is because any peripheral ques for image size are reduced. Anyhow, it wasn't long ago that you'd be viewing rear projection units that were "MASSIVE" 75" and 85" and that it was the ultimate home theater display haha. Now we have 77" and 83" OLEDS...OLEDS! I'm plenty happy with moving to my panel and watching Movies, TV, and playing games is incredible. I will be sticking with direct-view displays as I think for my space they're plenty big (and getting bigger) and I also personally believe self-emissive displays are the future of cinema.

Notes:
  • I still rarely watch my 65" OLED in my living room
  • Projectors are super cool and yeah I'd love to have 100" OLED but for my space the panels have gotten big enough. Just like 110" might be big enough for someone but too small for another. It's all relative.
  • You can't go wrong with either option for most smaller (1-6 people) sized spaces. We're truly spoiled in 2021... that is until VR and augmented reality kick in. Maybe that's when panel and pj enthusiasts come together finally to fight a common enemy :p
  • please don't post that tired argument as a rebuttal about FOV and moving your view distance to 6" from your iphone. There's a balance, size matters, and I like to watch content with others in the room thank you. For me it's 9'. For you it may be 18'. Or maybe you enjoy an incredibly large fov and sit 6' from 110".
  • the average family in the US sits 9-10' away from their TV. 75-85" panels are now (by THX standards) within cinematic fov territory.

TLDR; Projectors are rad, and so are big OLED panels. Can't go wrong.
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Asking this question in this thread is like asking a bunch of vegans what their favorite steakhouse is. A good front projection setup can be pretty involved both financially and with respect to room treatments/requirements. Once someone has made that kind of commitment, its kinda hard to get that same person to say, "yeah, but I'd be just as happy with a big TV." So with that in mind, I can offer my experience and why I didn't throw my spare change at another PJ and instead went with a "big OLED".

My room is in a finished basement that is 26'x13'. My viewing area is about half that though at 13x13 light controlled and matte black walls - so every thing I say is with respect to my smaller space. I originally I had a 120" 16x9 screen paired with a (trigger warning) 1080p Benq PJ. Like many I also had a 65" OLED in the living room that was rarely used even though I preferred the image on it. When looking to upgrade I almost pulled the trigger on an NX7 and slightly smaller 110" screen, but then realized I could move my couch forward 2 feet reducing my viewing distance from 11' to 9' and get a ~35 fov with a 77" OLED. I expected the reduction in size to hurt... a lot. Thankfully I had the exact opposite experience. The panel itself feels huge in my room, and when I turned it on and watched Alita: Battle Angle in Dolby Vision I was blown away. I had been missing so much (4k and HDR) and wow, a 77" panel is much much larger than a 65". I have a hypothesis that the "big screen" effect is achieved by having an immersive fov for your preferred viewing distance, because that's what it feels like in my room. How can I move from a 120" screen to a 77" and it still feel big - and I've even had friends come over and literally say "woah, it's like IMAX," the sameone ones that had seen my projector setup. Now I know a lot of you are rolling your eyes at this point. Here's the thing, my panel is in a completely light controlled batcave with matte black walls. When the lights are off, the panel feels bigger than with the lights slightly dimmed and I think this is because any peripheral ques for image size are reduced. Anyhow, it wasn't long ago that you'd be viewing rear projection units that were "MASSIVE" 75" and 85" and that it was the ultimate home theater display haha. Now we have 77" and 83" OLEDS...OLEDS! I'm plenty happy with moving to my panel and watching Movies, TV, and playing games is incredible. I will be sticking with direct-view displays as I think for my space they're plenty big (and getting bigger) and I also personally believe self-emissive displays are the future of cinema.

Notes:
  • I still rarely watch my 65" OLED in my living room
  • Projectors are super cool and yeah I'd love to have 100" OLED but for my space the panels have gotten big enough. Just like 110" might be big enough for someone but too small for another. It's all relative.
  • You can't go wrong with either option for most smaller (1-6 people) sized spaces. We're truly spoiled in 2021... that is until VR and augmented reality kick in. Maybe that's when panel and pj enthusiasts come together finally to fight a common enemy
  • please don't post that tired argument as a rebuttal about FOV and moving your view distance to 6" from your iphone. There's a balance, size matters, and I like to watch content with others in the room thank you. For me it's 9'. For you it may be 18'. Or maybe you enjoy an incredibly large fov and sit 6' from 110".
  • the average family in the US sits 9-10' away from their TV. 75-85" panels are now (by THX standards) within cinematic fov territory.

TLDR; Projectors are rad, and so are big OLED panels. Can't go wrong.
I've had a similar conclusion. I have a dual setup and pull the TV two ft off the wall to get a sub 9' viewing distance on a 77" OLED.

Also have a 125" drop down screen we use mostly for movie night. The TV gets put flush against the wall and the screen comes down in front about 11' seating distance.

Definitely a difference in size when moving between the two, but I find the OLED is much more set and forget for HDR, plus Dolby Vision looks amazing.

With the projector, I'm constantly tweaking for better performance, to the point of being obsessive.

I end up using the OLED more because it's mostly just my wife and I watching daily, and also it's fantastic for gaming.

That said, I couldn't part with my projector setup. Once there are 100" OLEDs, then I think I could.

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