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ReplayTV Operational FAQ

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Originally posted by odie34:
Q: Can I watch a show while the unit is recording?


A: The manual is pretty clear about how to use a splitter to watch one show while recording another, but it doesn't really go into detail about the fact that you can begin watching a recorded show before it has finished recording. I finish putting my kids to bed around 8:30, and would normally have to wait until 9:00 to begin watching an hour-long show taped from 8:00-9:00. But with the Replay unit, I can begin watching whenever I want.
Yes Yes, 1000 times Yes! (With restrictions!)If ReplayTV is recording a show, just go into the Replay Guide, press "Select" on the show that's recording, and select "Play From Beginning" in the selection menu. That's the cool thing about ReplayTV!


You can also be watching a previously recorded show (from the Replay Guide) while ReplayTV is recording something else.


You CANNOT watch another (ReplayTV) input while it is recording another show. I have DirecTV as one input and an OTA antenna for a second input. While ReplayTV is recording from one input, ther is no way to watch the other input through ReplayTV. You can do some creative splitting if you have a multi-input TV, but not through ReplayTV.



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Originally posted by jbarr:
Yes Yes, 1000 times Yes! (With restrictions!)If ReplayTV is recording a show, just go into the Replay Guide, press "Select" on the show that's recording, and select "Play From Beginning" in the selection menu. That's the cool thing about ReplayTV!
You can also press 0 + the JUMP key while the currently recording show is being viewed to get to the beginning.


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I've had my ShowStopper for a couple of weeks now, and it's great! This forum is also a great resource. The only problem I've had is trying to figure out what the unit will do in various situations. I've called both Panasonic and ReplayTV support several times, and found that while they're reasonably adept at providing installation support (which I didn't need), the reps know close to nothing about how the unit operates. (3 out of 4 told me that a show-based channel will record all episodes airing on that channel in a given day, which is simply not true.)


Thus I've had to figure most everything out by myself, and in the hopes of making things easier for the next inquisitive person, I thought I'd share what (I think) I know about the more esoteric operation of the Replay unit. (I am not including the obvious stuff that's spelled out clearly in the manual.) Please note that while I'm quite sure about much of what follows, some of it is still conjecture. I'd love to get feedback from people (especially you Replay folks) about all of this. It would also be great to have people add other not-so-straightforward information to this list that they believe to be relevant.


I won't get into the wish-list things like VCR-type controls or play lists... That's best left to another thread. I'm more concerned here with how to best utilize the device as it exists today.


Also, sorry about the length of this post. I'm rather new to these forums, and I hope I'm not breaking any rules of decorum by posting something of this size. Anyway... Here we go:


Q: If you have plenty of recording space available on the disk, is there any difference between guaranteed and non-guaranteed channels?


A: I've found two basic differences. First, guaranteed shows cannot conflict with each other, so you can't set up two guaranteed recordings in the same time slot. This means that a show like Big Brother is probably not a good candidate to be set up as guaranteed because it's on so often and will restrict you from recording lots of other shows (even if you're only interested in the Wednesday episode). The other difference seems to be in the amount of time you can pause (or rewind) a live show. Space for guaranteed shows is pre-allocated, and although that space still seems to be usable for non-guaranteed shows (if the space is available), it doesn't seem to be available for pausing. (I'm not sure on this point, but that is the way it appears.) Since live television is always recorded in the highest quality, this can effect things even if there's a fair amount of disk space left.


Q: Can I watch a show while the unit is recording?


A: The manual is pretty clear about how to use a splitter to watch one show while recording another, but it doesn't really go into detail about the fact that you can begin watching a recorded show before it has finished recording. I finish putting my kids to bed around 8:30, and would normally have to wait until 9:00 to begin watching an hour-long show taped from 8:00-9:00. But with the Replay unit, I can begin watching whenever I want.


Q: How often do show-based channels record shows, and what happens if the show is extended or pushed forward/backward in the schedule?


A: When you set up a show-based channel, the unit will attempt to record that show on that channel at that time every day. Regardless of how many times the show is on during the day, it will only be recorded once. If the show is not listed in the channel guide at the given time, then the PVR will look 1 hour in each direction (I don't know which direction has priority in the case of a tie), and if the show is on within that timeframe it will be recorded. If not, then the show will not be recorded for that day. Thus if "Friends" is pushed back from its normal 8:00 slot to 8:30 or 9:00, then it will still be recorded. If it is pushed back to 9:30 then it will not be recorded. If your NBC affiliate shows a Friends rerun at 7:00 every day, then that episode will be recorded each day that it's not on at 8:00. This behavior explains why the show-based channel records the occasional 9:00 episode airing on Tuesday, or all the Big Brother episodes. I've suggested that it might be better to tie the "on-or-about" recording feature to timespans such as prime-time, late-night, etc., rather than simply looking 1 hour in each direction. This would allow the unit to be smart enough to omit the 7:00 Friends rerun because it's not in prime-time. It would also allow a 9:30 or 10:00 episode to be recorded because it IS in prime-time. (I know, it's a bit complicated by the fact that prime time is 7:00-10:00 in areas like Chicago, but the unit could still figure that out.) Regarding extended episodes (special 1- or 2-hour versions), as long as the program guide knows it's a single episode (versus 2 different episodes playing back-to-back), it will be recorded in its entirety (space permitting). One last thing about show-based channels... These channels will record multiple occurances of the same episode. For example, Nickelodeon airs the same episode of the kids show "Blue's Clues" 5 days a week, and then runs a new episode the following week. A show-based channel for this show will record 5 separate instances of the same episode.


Q: A network sometimes airs multiple episodes of a show (like Friends or Frasier) on the same night. Is there a way to record all "current" (prime-time) episodes of a show?


A: Effectively... No. You can set up a theme-based channel, but then you get all the reruns, etc.


Q: What is the difference between the 2 different types of theme-based channels?


A: I found that you can set up a theme-based channel using a keyword search, OR by using the "Find all shows" option. When using a keyword, you can go back to the channel and modify the search criteria at any time. Theme-based channels set up using the "find all shows" method does not allow the search criteria (the title of the show) to be modified. Other than that, I have noticed no difference. One MAJOR benefit I have noticed in theme-based channels is that they don't seem to record multiple instances of the same episode. For example, when I set up Blue's Clues (mentioned earlier in the show-based section) as a theme-based channel, I noticed that it did not record duplicate episodes. This observation is contrary to what EVERYONE has told me the unit should be doing, but it appears to be working this way nonetheless.


Q: How do I Record a show that's not yet in the channel guide?


A: If you have a favorite movie that you want to record when it's on but it isn't in the channel guide yet, create a theme-based channel with the title of the movie. BE WARNED though, that because it's not in the channel guide, the PVR doesn't know how long it is and can't give an intelligent default regarding the size of the channel. Thus it defaults to half an hour. If you accept the default, then the movie will not be recorded. Make sure to always think about this number when setting up theme-based channels and reserve enough space for the show(s) you want to record.


Q: I've been watching a live program from the beginning, and 40 minutes into it I decide I want to record it. Can I?


A: No and yes. If you have a VCR attached and haven't changed channels on the Replay unit since the show began, then you can rewind the show back to the beginning, play it from there, and record to tape. The tape quality should be very good since live TV is recorded at the best resolution.


Q: My remote doesn't control all aspects of my TV/VCR/Cable/etc properly. What can I do about it?


A: The remote that comes with the ShowStopper is based on the same technology as the OneForAll and Radio Shack universal remotes, and has the same capabilities. (I don't know about the ReplayTV remote, which I'm told is different but may be based on the same technology.) If your device can be set up using one of the device codes in the book, but some of the functionality is wrong or missing, it's very likely that the problem can be remedied using "Advanced Codes." Advanced codes are 3-digit codes that can be accessed by tapping the Code Set button (don't hold it down until it flashes twice) and keying in the 3-digit code. After pressing the third digit, the remote will send the IR sequence associated with that code to the device. Once you have identified the code you need, you can permanently assign it to just about any key on the remote. If you already own a OneForAll or Radio Shack remote, then you can call their technical support lines and request that they send you (via fax, email, or usps) a list of advanced codes for your device. I recommend referring to http://www.hifi-remote.com/ofa/manua....shtml?15-1994 for in-depth instructions on how to (re-)program your remote once you have the advanced codes.
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As the keeper of the AVSForum-inspired Advanced FAQ (click the link at the top of the page to see it), I hope you don't mind if I weigh in here.

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Originally posted by odie34:
...guaranteed shows cannot conflict with each other, so you can't set up two guaranteed recordings in the same time slot. This means that a show like Big Brother is probably not a good candidate to be set up as guaranteed because it's on so often and will restrict you from recording lots of other shows (even if you're only interested in the Wednesday episode).
Well, that depends on how you set up the recording. I'm going to assume by your answer that you are talking about a show-based recording with a record all episodes. (Two filled-in red circles as opposed to two empty red circles in the Channel Guide.) In this case, you are right unless you are intent on catching every episode of Big Brother at the cost of everything else. Your idea is a good one (show-based non-guaranteed, record all episodes) unless you think Big Brother is more important than everything else, in which case you should do guaranteed to make sure you get it.

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Q: Can I watch a show while the unit is recording?
I asked this question myself. Can't believe I left it out of the FAQ! I'll add it.

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If the show is not listed in the channel guide at the given time, then the PVR will look 1 hour in each direction (I don't know which direction has priority in the case of a tie), and if the show is on within that timeframe it will be recorded.
Actually, it looks 1 show in each direction.

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Q: A network sometimes airs multiple episodes of a show (like Friends or Frasier) on the same night. Is there a way to record all "current" (prime-time) episodes of a show?


A: Effectively... No. You can set up a theme-based channel, but then you get all the reruns, etc.



Sure you can. Set up a show-based recording for each timeslot and you will get it.


There is a bug currently that keeps the second of back to back episodes (such as the two "Whose Line?" shows on Thursday night) from recording when using a theme.

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Q: What is the difference between the 2 different types of theme-based channels?


A: I found that you can set up a theme-based channel using a keyword search, OR by using the "Find all shows" option....For example, when I set up Blue's Clues (mentioned earlier in the show-based section) as a theme-based channel, I noticed that it did not record duplicate episodes. This observation is contrary to what EVERYONE has told me the unit should be doing, but it appears to be working this way nonetheless.
Also, the "Find all shows" method finds only exact matches (as stated in the manual).


There are different episodes of Blue's Clues? http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Q: How do I Record a show that's not yet in the channel guide?


A: If you have a favorite movie that you want to record when it's on but it isn't in the channel guide yet, create a theme-based channel with the title of the movie. BE WARNED though, that because it's not in the channel guide, the PVR doesn't know how long it is and can't give an intelligent default regarding the size of the channel. Thus it defaults to half an hour. If you accept the default, then the movie will not be recorded. Make sure to always think about this number when setting up theme-based channels and reserve enough space for the show(s) you want to record.
I could be wrong, but I believe it will record if there is space available. I'll test this theory.

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Q: I've been watching a live program from the beginning, and 40 minutes into it I decide I want to record it. Can I?
This is already in the FAQ.

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Q: My remote doesn't control all aspects of my TV/VCR/Cable/etc properly. What can I do about it?


A: The remote that comes with the ShowStopper is based on the same technology as the OneForAll and Radio Shack universal remotes, and has the same capabilities. (I don't know about the ReplayTV remote, which I'm told is different but may be based on the same technology.) If your device can be set up using one of the device codes in the book, but some of the functionality is wrong or missing, it's very likely that the problem can be remedied using "Advanced Codes." Advanced codes are 3-digit codes that can be accessed by tapping the Code Set button (don't hold it down until it flashes twice) and keying in the 3-digit code. After pressing the third digit, the remote will send the IR sequence associated with that code to the device. Once you have identified the code you need, you can permanently assign it to just about any key on the remote. If you already own a OneForAll or Radio Shack remote, then you can call their technical support lines and request that they send you (via fax, email, or usps) a list of advanced codes for your device. I recommend referring to http://www.hifi-remote.com/ofa/manua....shtml?15-1994 for in-depth instructions on how to (re-)program your remote once you have the advanced codes.
I'll let Robman weigh in on this. Thanks for the additional questions to add to the FAQ.



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[This message has been edited by PRMan (edited 09-09-2000).]
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As the keeper of the AVSForum-inspired Advanced FAQ (click the link at the top of the page to see it), I hope you don't mind if I weigh in here.
On the contrary... I'm delighted! I was unaware of another FAQ covering these topics. (Hope I didn't step on any toes!)

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Actually, it looks 1 show in each direction.
Are you sure about this? I got the 1 hour number from the only guy at Replay support who seemed to know what he was talking about. Also, do you know which will break the tie if there's a show in the previous AND the next time slot?

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Originally posted by PRMan:
Sure you can. Set up a show-based recording for each timeslot and you will get it.
I was referring to the ability to say "record all prime-time episodes." How can you set up a show-based channel for each timeslots if the show doesn't happen to be on in that timeslot that week? (Friends isn't on at 8:00 and 8:30 this week, but I want to set the machine up now to record it in the even that that happens. I don't want to do a theme-based channel because it'll record thousands of repeats as well.

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Originally posted by PRMan:
I could be wrong, but I believe it will record if there is space available. I'll test this theory.
I'd be anxious to hear the results of this.


Also, can you confirm the whole issue about the Replay unit recording (or not recording) multiple instances of the same show, and my assertion that the behavior is different based on whether it's a show-based versus theme-based channel? Is this in your FAQ? If not, I think it ought to be. In fact, I still think the whole description of how show-based programs are (or are not) recorded belongs there as well (although perhaps worded a bit more eloquently than I did above).
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Yes, Replay looks one SHOW in each direction to find shows of show-based recordings, NOT one hour. On this one topic, we're all sure.


I'm curious about the tie, too. My *guess*?


The earlier one would win and then Replay would not record the later one since it had recroded the earlier one and "met the requirements" of the channel.

>> (Hope I didn't step on any toes!)


Ouch! http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif No, no problem.


>> Are you sure about this? I got the 1 hour number from the only guy at Replay support who seemed to know what he was talking about. Also, do you know which will break the tie if there's a show in the previous AND the next time slot?


Absolutely. I agree with cwoody that the show before will break the tie, fulfilling the requirement.


>> I was referring to the ability to say "record all prime-time episodes."


There's no way to get prime time only, unfortunately. This is why we need better episode identification for recordings. If it's in syndication, but I've never seen it, then I would want it recorded. If it's in prime time, but I have seen it, I don't want it.


>> I'd be anxious to hear the results of this.


Running a test right now. I'll let you know.


>> Also, can you confirm the whole issue about the Replay unit recording (or not recording) multiple instances of the same show, and my assertion that the behavior is different based on whether it's a show-based versus theme-based channel? Is this in your FAQ?


Yes. Please read the FAQ by clicking the link at the top of the page before we go any further with this thread. If you can think of any more things that are not covered, I will add them if they have been frequently asked.




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>> Also, can you confirm the whole issue about the Replay unit recording (or not recording) multiple instances of the same show, and my assertion that the behavior is different based on whether it's a show-based versus theme-based channel? Is this in your FAQ?


Yes. Please read the FAQ by clicking the link at the top of the page before we go any further with this thread. If you can think of any more things that are not covered, I will add them if they have been frequently asked.
I've read the FAQ, but I see no mention of this issue. My experience has been that unlike show-based channels, theme-based channels will not record duplicate episodes. I set up a channel to record Blue's Clues for my kids, and it's NOT recording duplicate shows. I haven't tried this with a show like "Real World" which doesn't list any info in the channel guide, but I wouldn't be surprised if it acted differently.


One more issue that might enter into this... My theme based channel was set up using the "Find All Shows" option. This is different than setting it up using a keyword. Although I don't know ALL the differences (I'd love to see this in your FAQ), one difference is that you can't change the criteria after the channel has been set up. Another is that the episodes in the Replay Guide are all listed using only the show title (Blue's Clues) rather than the episode info (Blue rides a bike). You have to physically move the cursor to the show to see that information. (This is different from show-based channels and theme-based channels set up using a keyword.) Perhaps the way you set up a theme-based channel has something to do with whether duplicates are recorded...
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I'll let Robman weigh in on this.
Robman here! Sorry for the late response, this is my first time in this particular thread.


The remotes that come with the Replay brand units and the Showstoppers are pretty much the same, except for the fact that they use different IR signals, but both units respond to both signals, so you probably wouldn't notice. You can use advanced codes from my site to help program the other device buttons, but you can't use advanced codes on the Replay device itself, not that you'd want to, although swapping the volume and channel buttons back to their standard sides of the remote would be nice.

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hmm... there are codes for receivers on the radioshack remote... does this mean I can actually set it up to control my receiver??? (This would make me very, very happy http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


Art
HA! That would be nice wouldn't it. The basic version of the remote that Replay uses has an audio device button, but that's the button that Replay uses for the Replay itself, so the audio codes were dropped. Apparently, the older versions of Replay came with a bigger remote which probably has an audio device button, but I've never actually seen one myself.


Unfortunately, the remote that Replay selected, the Catalyst 34 , does not have learning ability, and the optional ability to use macro's was not selected.


Hopefully if enough people ask for it, future Replay units will come with a Catalyst 48 remote, which comes with optional learning and macros. Hopefully, if Replay does select this remote in the future they will also select those options.


There is a new remote on the market that has both Replay device codes and the TiVo codes from RCA called the RCU810. It's on sale at Best Buy for $50. I just picked one up but habven;t had a chance to play with it yet, but Jas-Qfix gave it a rave review over at Remote Central.


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