Is there a setting on LG panels that show how many hours it's been on?

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Yes, think it's under "general" then "about this tv"...then click on the model info. If I remember right.

 

According to Google the average American watches 5 hours of TV per day.

So...

10,000 divided by 5 hours = 2000 days

2000 days divided by 365 = 5 1/2 ish years for the average American to hit 10,000 hours.

But not everyone is an average user, and for sure not the fine folks here on AVS.

Please report here after crossing the 10,000 hour mark and report the condition of your 4K Oled.

I'm a ways out from that. I checked last night and am at 1843 hours after roughly 295 days since purchase... (2/8/18) 6.2 hours per day. PQ is still amazing. Absolutely stunning.

At my current rate of 184 hours a month I'll be hitting 10,000 hours and posting back in this thread in 45 months.... August 2022? Cya then. In the meantime I'm gonna subscribe to this thread on the off chance someone bought his OLED 417 days ago and just hit 10,000 hours after a 417 day 24/7 Breaking Bad marathon and decides to post his panel condition assuming it's not burned in and he can actually see what's on screen.

 

Well let's see. If a person bought their 4k Oled...at the start of 2015...let's keep it simple an say 4 years ago. So 10,000 divided 1460 days (4 years)...= 7 ish hours a day. Possible a few folks might have 10,000 hours I reckon.

If the same buyer of the 2015 watched the same as you...6.2 hours per day...would take them 4.41 years to hit 10,000. Would be another 5~6 months before they they crossed the line. So sometime this summer they would be reporting.

 

I have 5760 hours on my 2018 4k qled. No BI.

 

No but you got all the LCD issues.

 

^that's such a cool story...now I want a qled, wait what's a qled

 

Bump.

 

3180 hours total / 12 hours per day = 265 days.

4 hours of News channels per day X 265 days = 1060 hours of news channels total.

Assuming those 'news channel' hours are all on a single channel and that channel is CNN (oe equivalent), I'm going to guess you have a 2017 WOLED. Here's what the CNN Max red field looked like after 1120 hours (week 8) of CNN at OLED Light = 100 on the 2017 rtings.com burn-in test (attached).

First clear signs of burn in did not occur until over 2500 hours (week 18). [and again, that is assuming all 4 hours per day are on the same bright yelliw/orange/red static-logo-presenting news channel, ie: CNN or MSNBC].

It would be fantastic if you could report back in another year...

 

Let's keep it to those who have 10,000-ish hours to eliminated clutter. If everyone who has less reports this would be one long thread. I'll keep bumping it when it drops to page two so new members might see it and post if theirs does. Don't expect much response for a while. Think maybe this summer we might start getting reports. Thank you.

 

What is the point of this? To show when BI occurs for the "average" viewer?

 

No. Data on lifespans. It might be interesting to collect information of failures of any type. Failure of the power supply for example. But I was looking at only screen lifespan. I expect to see improvements in longevity as the different year models come in crossing the 10,000 hour mark.

In the polls most were wanting 5+ years out of their tv's. This can perhaps act as a loose guide as to whether 4K Oleds can reasonably be expected to provide that. We can then move he target to reporting at 15,000 hours...7-ish years average to see how they generally hold under real world, un-scientific conditions. Inaccurate though it may be. IE: Someone who watches in dark conditions with olight levels low might be expected to achieve more hours on their Oled than someone who watches in a bright room with Olight levels high, for example. But maybe not.

Will be a dead/boring thread for a long time...but should start picking up as the hours accumulate.

 

Why are you excluding 1080p panels? While they are rarer, they are even more likely to be nearing 10k hours now if they haven't already.

 

Two reasons.

The spacing on the pixels may be farther apart or they could be larger...and therefore may disperse/handle heat differently. So their wear rates might be very different from 4K screens.

I wanted to keep it more relevant to purchasers of new models. The 8K Oleds will need it's own thread.

Update! All years are now welcome to report

 

First it was 5000 hours. Well, I am close to that number on my EF9500, the vast majority of those hours with OLED light at 100. No issues whatsoever. Now it's 10,000 hours. Someone will hit that, have no issues, and the goalposts will be moved forward to 15,000 hours, and then 20,000 hours, until something bad happens so we can see that post "I told you so" This is getting ridiculous. Enjoy your tv's and quit worrying. Life is too short.

 

Agreed. I don't think that the current proposal is going to be statistically accurate. Maybe good conversation over a beer or two but mostly useless. Way too many variables (panel size, firmware version, viewing distance, viewing environment, viewing habits, source material, ad naseum). Interesting, sure. Ultimately useful, no. Will BI happen on some sets, absolutely. Will it be worse on some than others, sure. But that's the chance one takes with a newer technology. Nothing is guaranteed. Most of us are informed enough to know what we were/are getting into so I'm just going to enjoy the hell out of my set until, and if, issues arise. I'm not going to go looking for issues. That's ridiculous even for someone who is as OCD as myself

BI is real for some, but we need to be very careful when discussing it as to not infer that those who went with OLED made a bad decision or were fools to do so. That deters from the legitimate conversation about issues, real or imagined, and gets into the dogmatic "I'm right and you're wrong and you're a fool for doing so". We've already seen that with one poster who is no longer with us and any valid points he may have had, were totally lost with his rhetoric.

Keep it civil folks. After all, this is only television so let's help each other if need be and not be judgmental about it.

 

Done.

 

It's a real pain. You can change the title of your lead post, and it will change the title of that post but not the title of the thread.

The only way to get the title of a thread changed is to send a PM to a miderator on the Forum.

(been there, done that ).

 

Oh wait, did not work. Hmm.

 

See above.

 

Don't see a link to contact a moderator on duty?

 

If you go to one of the busier / more tumultuous threads (where moderators are more necessary ) you can PM them from there - my u detsanding is that the moderatrs are Forum-specific, not thread-specific,

If upu have trouble, send me a PM - I Have an old message from my last exchange with a moderator on the OLED Forum and perhaps he's still active...

 

You might want to post your request in the Forum Operations Center. That might get the help you need.

 

Forum Operations Center? Alright...where the heck is that?

 

At the very bottom of the AVS Forums. Lots of interesting topics in there.

 

Don't see it. Link please?

 

Hey, it fixed!!! Thank you to whomever lent a helping hand

Now we wait...

 

Where there is a will, there is a way!

Now if you want to be really proactive about drumming up EC9300 and EG9600 owners to post on this thread, you could add a post to the espective owners' threads .

Heck, while you're at it, you might even track down the EA9800 owner's thread - at one time there were close to 100 ownrs here in AVS, and those first-generation WOLED TVs are all now over 5 years old from launch...

 

I've had my 77C8 since Aug 15 or 116 days and I have 871 hours.

I must watch too much TV as that's 7.5 hours per day.
The display is so awesome I just cant stop watching.

 

Slightly wider pixel spacing is a bogus reason to exclude 1080p from the experience fishing expedition (especially since the debut model 55EA9800 is an important case study). Thanks for reconsidering, OP.

 

Just signed up. My 55ec9300 is showing total power on time as 10811. No issues to report. Love the tv and cant wait to go bigger and out this one in our master bed.

 

Welcome aboard (and what a fantastic first post!).

Can you tell us a bit more about your EC9300:

-How long have you had it (when was it purchased)?

-What setting for OLED Light do you use?

-What are your pimary viewing habits (streaming/bluray, cable/OTA broadcast, gaming, etc...)?

The fact that you've got close to 11,000 hours with your EC9300 and are still happy with it is great news for those of us with newer WOLED TVs - thanks again for your contribution and feel free to ask for advice when you get ready for a bigger OLED TV (I've moved from a 55EC9300 to a 65C6P and will be moving to a 75/77" WOLED TV in 2019 or 2020...).

 

The world will end before i get even 5000 hours. Only put on 1.5 hours a nite.

 

The camera pic makes the burn in look worse than in person. If I pause that youtube test and get close to the tv i can make out matching burned in images to the game screen.I can also make out the symbol “E” in the bottom right which is from my wife and e entertainment. She watches a TON of that garbage.

I wonder if my burn in happened because of the high light setting.

 

The camera pic makes the burn in look worse than in person. If I pause that youtube test and get close to the tv i can make out matching burned in images to the game screen.I can also make out the symbol “E” in the bottom right which is from my wife and e entertainment. She watches a TON of that garbage.

I wonder if my burn in happened because of the high light setting.

The only burn-in I notice is the from the lower long blue horizontal life or mana bar along the bottom of the screen.

Except for burn in of the NBC peacock, this is the first example I've seen of blue burn-in; normally it's yellow or orange or red (CNN logo being the classic example).

You're lucky because red burn-in is far more visible on normal content due to skin tones. If you don't see that blue burn-in on content now, hopefully it doesn't get much worse before you upgrade to a larger size.

Your high OLED Light setting does contribute to the rapidity by which your burn-in is developing - reducing output intensity by half should reduce the rate of burn-in by 50% (meaning twice as long to develop the same level of burn-in).

So if you are continueig to play that same game, you will extent the number if hours before the burn-in becomes visible on content by lowering OLED Light to the lowest level you consider acceptable.

Of course the best way to avoid additional burn-in of blue is to stop playing that specific game on your EC9300 (including playing that specific game on a inexpensive LCD TV ).

On the burn-in caused by your wife's watching of 'e entertainment', if you can snap a quick pic of the screen / 'e' you believe caused the burn-in and well as a pic if the burn-in itself (both pics zoomed-in if needed) that would be great (along with whatever estimate you and/or your wife can provide on total cumulative hours displaying that specific screen).

There is so much misinformation about burn-in of WOLED TVs that many of us hunger for factual evidence by honest members such as yourself (hence all the quuestions and requests for pictures).

I don't want to scare you, but for contrast, attached is a pic from the rtings.com 2017 burn-in test to show how badly the CNN logo can burn into a 2017 WOLED after playing the CNN channel with OLED Light 100 for a total of 20x7x44 = ~6000 cumulative hours:

(and the dark 'ghost' you see in the middle of the screen is caused by the fact that CNN does not represent truly random content but has a high amount of talking heads or newscasters speaking ftom the center of the screen).

 

Also disregard the lamp reflection in the left of the blue image. And the swirly vertical helix in the middle of the screen is not burn in. Some reason the curved screen was playing tricks on my camera phone. The burn in is pictured by the “life bars” in the lower middle and the rectangular box on the right middle. There is also very faint burn in on other areas but you have to be a couple feet from the tv to see it.

 

How good is the 77” C8 tv? Im really liking that size but have read that in early 2019 they will be getting a processor upgrade and true 120 fps. Any news on the new ones or the c8 that is out now?

 

The C8 appears to be pretty good TV but we'll have more details about the C9 in less than a month now (and there are also better threads to ask this question).

 

11793 hours on my 55EC9300 sheesh

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Would you be able to run this vid...give us a report? And comment how well your tv looks and has held up thru the years, any repairs you have had? Will your next tv be an Oled?

 

Ill have to check sometime but my 2 and a half year old 65" 9600 (UB board, for HDR over HDMI) has close to 5000 hours I believe from when I last checked in settings and still works great! Still have warranty until end of summer 2020, and I'd be upset if my set went out, but I really feel like I've gotten my money's worth out of it already for the sale price I got it for back then, which would still be a jaw dropper for 2018 pricing (even though there are newer models, sure)

Same color pop, same banding (hasnt gotten better or worse, its a tolerable amount), minimal vignetting, same tint uniformity (if anything that has gotten a little bit better, the left is slightly hotter, havent noticed in a while.. it either ironed itself out or I stopped caring).. happy with it!

Cant comment on longevity of C6 because its my bedroom set which replaced 9300 when that went out, and havent watched a ton of tv on it or anything, but still seems pretty close to perfect and in same state, too.