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I am trying to convince my HOA to allow the mounting of a external antenna above the roofline of my house. The antenna would allow reception of over-the-air local NTSC, DTV and HDTV signals and based on my own preliminary technical site survey, is my only option for local reception of digital UHF signals. I plan to hire Davis Antenna, a professional antenna installation firm, to do a formal site survey in the near future.


My home is in zip code 20165, does not have an attic and does not receive an acceptable signal with an interior antenna. DTV and HDTV do not come in at all that way. Currently, at least seven homeowners in our community have added exterior antennas in apparent defiance of HOA regulations. I presume this since our HOA's Facilities and Covenants Director tells me that to date, he has never received any application of this type.


I like to play by the rules, do not wish to test my HOA and would like to submit a formal application for exterior antenna approval.


Other than FCC CSR 4915-O,

See: http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Ord...7/da972188.txt

are you aware of any other findings and resources I can use to buttress my case with my HOA?


On a related note, I am surprised that more people don't mount and use exterior antennas for local reception. It seems that the majority of the folks in our area either use cable or DBS. They appear to be utterly unaware of or apathetic to local digital reception options. They mount DBS antennas right in front of their house, clearly in view, yet look down on standard broadcast antennas as some kind of hideous monstrosity only used by social pariahs like hillbillies and shack dwellers.


Why pay for satellite and cable when freely available DTV and HDTV are offered by local broadcasters in the community?
 

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Try the FCC OTARD rulling esp. the parts starting with:



"Q: What types of restrictions are prohibited?"


Basically, the HOA can impose safety restrictions (esp. if the antenna extends more than 12' above your roofline) and aesthetic restrictions, provided those do not impair your ability to achieve reception.


They cannot even require you to seek permission first as that constitutes an unreasonable delay.
 

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OTOH, as I understand it, it's dependant on your reception of NTSC signals only ..and only from your home market. Needs to be amended for DTV, but, so far, NTSC only. And, although I'm right across the river from Cincinnati, there's only one northern KY commercial TV station and its NTSC signal comes in fine. It's the WB. So, that's what my HOA bases it's "no antenna, no way, no how" policy on. They consider Cincy (12 miles away) a "distant market."


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DrDon - show me in the OTARD where it is for NTSC signals only !!


What the OTARD says is that it can be used for reception of LOCAL broadcast TV stations. This means you wouldn't be covered trying to receive TV signals from 100 miles away, but your local stations at 60 miles are OK. (and local means by the FCC's definition - not the HOA's).


Also - it's up to the HOA to prove their restrictions are valid - not on you to prove they aren't. Get in touch with your local FCC field office and get the field office in touch with the HOA board. The FCC should straighten them up right quick.
 

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nice antenna array. Why the dual UHF's pointed in the same direction? I would think each antenna in an array would point to different transmitters, use a combiner and mitigate against the use of a rotator.


DrDon-


Where did you get your interpretation of NTSC only?


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Yes, the FCC OTARD ruling is quite clear. Why then, does my HOA not get it?
 

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Yes, the FCC OTARD ruling is quite clear. Why then, does my HOA not get it? [/b]
Your HOA is of no concern to you. Just read the FCC fact sheet and make sure are in the right. 99% of the time, you will be. Then install your antenna. ALL burden lies with the HOA to prove any dispute they may have. The FCC regs are so overwhelmingly on your side that most reasonable people (especially HOA lawyers) quickly concede!


Happy OTA'ing!!


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Sasha..

Well, now you have me trying to find where I saw it. I think I got it from my own Chief Engineer at my previous station. I'm still looking. I'd be thrilled if I'm wrong on that. However, it won't help my position with the HOA. Since the HOA Presdent can get a decent picture with rabbit ears on the 3 major networks, he deems the asthetic restriction as valid.


Gerald..

Never had an HOA, have you ? Even if I do fight this one (I'd need a lawyer and that's out of my budget), the HOA will be on me like white on rice about everything from the color of the doorknob to the direction I mow my lawn. They're beating up the neighbor 3 doors down for a dispute he won. I don't need to waste entire days moving my mailbox three inches to the right. I'm just hoping someone else will broach this first and I can just fall in behind them.


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nice antenna array. Why the dual UHF's pointed in the same direction? I would think each antenna in an array would point to different transmitters, use a combiner and mitigate against the use of a rotator.
Sasha,


Going with a horizontal stack increases the directionality of the antenna. This comes in handy when trying to zero in on a distant station that is only available thru a small range of headings. Also, it's good for DXing as it greatly reduces side lobes. And, the extra gain achieved by hooking two together (at the proper distances) can help boost signal a bit (provided the connecting portions don't turnaround and lose that extra gain).


Here's a good link for stacking info:

Stacking TV Antennas

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Yes, the FCC OTARD ruling is quite clear. Why then, does my HOA not get it?
Because they're typically run by egotistical, small-minded morons who are more than happy to strut around showing off their "power". I think they should all be forced to watch that one X-Files episode where Scully and Mulder investigate strange goings-on in a neighborhood with a very strict HOA agreement :)
 

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On a related note, I am surprised that more people don't mount and use exterior antennas for local reception. It seems that the majority of the folks in our area either use cable or DBS. They appear to be utterly unaware of or apathetic to local digital reception options. They mount DBS antennas right in front of their house, clearly in view, yet look down on standard broadcast antennas as some kind of hideous monstrosity only used by social pariahs like hillbillies and shack dwellers.


Why pay for satellite and cable when freely available DTV and HDTV are offered by local broadcasters in the community?
Right on! The same is true for NTSC as well. I've yet to see a TV hooked up to cable or DBS get as good PQ from NTSC sourses as I can with my antenna.


H/DTV of course is even better. I have at least one station that is quite snowy NTSC, yet the DTV is perfect with no dropouts. I also haven't had a problem with "lower power" DTV stations. In fact, I would say my DTV reception is an improvement over analog reception, even at this time with stations at lower power and using antennas side mounted on their towers.


Results will vary of course, folks down "in the holler" face the most difficulty with OTA reception, it can be almost as bad as trying to use an antenna in the attic.


I have nothing "against" anyone who has cable or DBS for the extra programming options, but why not put up an antenna as well? It doesn't cost very much, usually doesn't take a degree in engineering to put one up, and in many cases will give you "extra" free channels that won't be available via cable. Also, if there is a cable outage or rain fade, you'll still be able to watch TV.


Although we don't live in shacks anymore(really), Where I live, most of us are hillbillies and understand these practical matters, moreso, it sometimes seems, than "city folk" do ;)


But seriously, although one does have to usually slow down to look, there are very few houses around here that do not have a outdoor antenna, either a new one, or one that is still around and functioning from the "old days".


The DBS dishes are always more visably seen, especially on the North side of the street. Although the cable stops 600ft up the street from me, I've seen quite a few folks who do have cable put up new antennas recently for the "out of market" stations they don't get on cable.


I'm also at a loss also to understand why antennas for OTA reception are "looked down" upon. Even the largest ones don't look any worse than any other of our "modern conviences" such as Utility poles, the A/C lines, Phone Lines, Cable lines strung up all over, Cell phone towers, Highways, concrete, etc., etc, etc. In fact, If properly installed, I think antennas look "cool".


So, My motto is, support the broadcasters and the DTV transistion and put up an antenna or hook up that old one that's still on the roof! If not, and things keep going the way they are, we may just lose Free TV someday. Some think the spectrum can be used for services more "useful" to the public good. Again, we "Hillbillies" know better.
 

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I think they should all be forced to watch that one X-Files episode where Scully and Mulder investigate strange goings-on in a neighborhood with a very strict HOA agreement :)
ROTFLMAO! That was a great episode!
 

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Sasha..

However, it won't help my position with the HOA. Since the HOA Presdent can get a decent picture with rabbit ears on the 3 major networks, he deems the asthetic restriction as valid.
Doesn't matter what Mr. HOA President thinks - he's been trumped and apparently none of you realize it.


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Gerald..

Never had an HOA, have you ? Even if I do fight this one (I'd need a lawyer and that's out of my budget), the HOA will be on me like white on rice about everything from the color of the doorknob to the direction I mow my lawn. They're beating up the neighbor 3 doors down for a dispute he won. I don't need to waste entire days moving my mailbox three inches to the right. I'm just hoping someone else will broach this first and I can just fall in behind them.


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You don't need a lawyer on this one - just the backbone to go do it. Put the antenna up, have a copy of the OTARD printed out for the first busybody who tries to tell you to take it down (and don't be afraid to have them arrested for trespassing if it comes to that), then go to the next HOA meeting and present that they are wrong. If they do decide to fight it, go to the FCC (as I said earlier) and have the FCC explain it to them / their lawyer. If there are DBS dishes up, they are covered under the OTARD as well, so there is already precedent. I'll bet they back off pretty quickly. As for the other crap from them, I'd consider it harrassment and have them in court real quick if they start it. Consider it the price of freedom from these control freaks.


As for not having a HOA - ever heard of Reston VA ? - I once owned a condo there. I swore right then and there that I would never again live where there is a HOA.
 

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Gerald..

Man, I TRIED to find a place to live without an HOA. I'm a ham, and I'd love nothing more than to have my own 60' Rohn and a couple of C-bands in the back yard. But, in the time frame I had to move down here, I had to take what I could get.


I should be finished with my landscape projects this fall. Once the HOA signs off on those, then the antenna goes up. I already have two DBS dishes and they haven't complained about that, although I caught them looking, pointing and writing something on a clipboard. Never heard about it. But the whole sub got a "no antennas" reminder mailer right after that.


I go to sleep early (7pm) and have to block light from my bedroom. I've already drawn a notice because my light block resulted in a black bedroom window, instead of the white backing required. So, I spray-painted the masonite white and that was that.


In Florida, the locals call them Condo Nazis. I lived on Treasure Island for a short while. First week I was there, I caught it for putting out a welcome mat, not closing my front room drapes after 9pm, using the wrong color embossing tape for my mailbox and running the dishwasher before 7AM. I moved out in 3 months. The guy who followed me told them what to do with their restrictions and they responded by pouring syrup around his kitchen window, causing the whole place to be overrun by ants. Nice, huh?


Well, I'm headed up into the attic to see if I can get Dayton to lock up. Jeff, if you're reading this, are they up this weekend?


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Doc,


The HOA stuff sure sounds "Nazi-like" to me! Geez oh pete.



Concerning the Dayton DTV's, Currently, (10:40am):


WRGT-DT 30 is UP

WHIO-DT 41 Is Up

WKEF-DT 51 Is Dark - No signal to be had in any form
 

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FYI, this is a copy of the email I sent to my HOA. I am on solid ground now!


Hello all,


I have been doing a lot of research since my last email and would like to respectfully suggest that the Cascades Board use the upcoming forum (Public Meeting on Architectural Design Guidelines) to modify the current Design Guidelines (dated 7/2001) with reference to Over-the-Air (OTA) antennas and making them compliant with Section 207 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and subsequent rulings by the FCC.


Why this particular attention to this esoteric and minor category of antenna use? Well, I for one am planning for local NTSC, DTV and HDTV reception in my home and am completely unsatisfied with Adelphia cable and various satellite options. Not to mention the overall paucity of advanced telecommunications options that seemed to have bypassed us in Cascades, as I'm sure you all are more than aware of, but that's another story. Plus, it doesn't hurt that you can have a full-bandwidth signal without associated monthly fees while supporting your local broadcasters to boot. If you have a chance to see a TV or HDTV signal from an well-placed and configured OTA antenna, you might be quite surprised. In terms of quality, there is simply no comparison with other options. My feeling is why pay for satellite and cable when freely available high-quality feeds are offered by local broadcasters in the community? In any event, my opinion is not what is important here, it's the facts regarding the situation at hand.


Unlike the ubiquitous satellite dishes favored by many Cascades residents, proper OTA antenna placement and usage clearly conflicts with the Architectural Design Guidelines both as currently written and in spirit as well. There is simply no getting around the fact that for an OTA antenna placement to be effective (in most of Lowes Island in particular, which is at a lower elevation than say, Potomac Lakes), it needs to placed well above the roofline of the home. Unlike a satellite dish which just needs to "see" the southern sky and isn't particularly affected by mounting height, an OTA antenna in our area needs the height and directionality afforded by roof-top mounting. This is especially true with digital broadcasts using the UHF band. These signals are particularly fragile and utterly depend on clear line-of-sight for effective reception. Hence the conflict with directive "G" in the current Design Guidelines (dated 7/2001). Proper OTA mounting contradicts the (seeming) prevailing aesthetic of hiding antennas behind the roofline. Signal strength or a clean roofline? Well, as far as I can see, the FCC to date has clearly ruled in favor of signal strength and homeowners rights in general.


These are the signal reception rules as spelled out by Consumer Electronics Association (CEA). See:

http://www.antennaweb.org/antennaweb/


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There are, however, four basic rules for TV signal reception

that you should keep in mind:


1. Outdoor is generally better.


Outdoor antennas have a better view of the transmitting station, with no building-induced signal loss. They receive less interference from other household electronic/electrical appliances, and they are less likely to receive reflected ghost signals from the building structure.


2. Higher is better.


The higher an antenna is, the more direct signal it can receive from the TV transmitter, while at the same time reducing the reception of interfering signals from other household electronic/electrical appliances and reflected ghost-causing signals from other nearby structures. The higher the better, but any antenna should be at least four feet above the structure to which it is mounted, and ideally above the roofline.


3. Closer is better.


If a position above the roofline is not possible, the antenna should at least be on the side of your building facing the TV signal broadcast tower.


4. Bigger is better.


The larger an antenna, the more signal it receives. This is especially important on channels 2-6, where the longer wavelength requires a larger antenna in order to be efficiently received. Larger antennas also become directional which reduces ghosting caused by reflected signals coming from the side and the rear of the receiving antenna.

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OTA antennas are definitely in use in Cascades, albeit by a small minority of at least 11 homeowners by my latest count and I have the photos to show it. While I do expect that number to increase in the future as quality conscious and high-tech homeowners come to realize the many benefits of using properly configured and aimed OTA antennas, I would never expect a majority of converts among the Cascades population as a whole. Minority or not, my research leads me to see clearly and unequivocally that Cascades residents with OTA antennas have the full weight of US law on their side. To the best that I can see, no wiggle room exists for HOA's in this area to restrict OTA antenna placement and usage. For instance, the outrageous scam some HOA's (not Cascades, thank goodness) have used in the past of claiming the air rights above a home to be "common areas" and precluding OTA antennas on that basis have been resoundingly thrown out by the FCC on at least 3 occasions since 1997. I could not find a single case in the entire FCC database which held in favor of an HOA over the rights of a homeowner with regards to OTA antenna usage and placement.


The 3 FCC cases which seem to be sited often as precedents are listed below. These are the abbreviated versions by the way, if anyone wants the full transcripts, I have them, just let me know:

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NEWSReport No. CS 97-26 CABLE SERVICES ACTION October 14, 1997


CABLE SERVICES BUREAU PREEMPTS RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF OVER-

THE-AIR-RECEPTION DEVICES IMPOSED BY THREE HOMEOWNER

ASSOCIATIONS


The Cable Services Bureau has preempted restrictions imposed by three homeowner

associations on the installation and use of satellite dishes, television antennas and wireless

cable antennas. In separate orders deciding petitions for declaratory ruling filed by

homeowners from San Antonio, Texas, Potomac, Maryland and McCormick, South Carolina,

the Bureau found that the restrictions did not comply with the Commission's rule ("Rule")

regarding over-the-air reception devices, which implements Section 207 of the 1996

Telecommunications Act. The Rule prohibits governmental and private restrictions that

impair the ability of antenna users to install, maintain, or use satellite dishes and wireless

cable antennas that are one meter or smaller in diameter and television broadcast antennas

unless justified by safety or historic preservation considerations. These are the first orders

addressing restrictions imposed by homeowner associations. Previously, the Bureau

preempted a Meade, Kansas local ordinance which impermissibly restricted installation and

use of satellite dishes and other antennas covered by the Rule. (In re Star Lambert et al.,

DA-97-1554, released July 22, 1997.)


In the first of the three orders released today, C.S. Wireless (d/b/a/ OmniVision of

San Antonio) petitioned the Commission for a ruling on restrictions imposed by Northampton

Property Owners Association. OmniVision is a multichannel multipoint distribution services

(MMDS) provider of wireless cable service in the San Antonio, Texas area. Wireless cable

antennas operate on line-of-sight contact with the transmitter or repeater. The OmniVision

order (DA 97-2187) holds that Northampton's outright prohibition of externally installed

wireless cable antennas is not justified by either safety or historic preservation and is

prohibited by the Rule.


In the second order, Jay Lubliner and Deborah Galvin, homeowners in Potomac,

Maryland, petitioned the Commission to preempt a restriction imposed by Potomac Ridge

Homeowners Association that prohibits externally mounted television broadcast antennas.

Mr. Lubliner and Ms. Galvin alleged they could not receive acceptable quality reception if

their antenna was installed inside their attic, as required by the Association. In this order

(DA 97-2188), the Bureau finds that the Potomac Ridge restriction against externally

mounted television antennas is prohibited and unenforceable because the Association did not

meet its burden to show that its restriction does not impair reception.


-more-

In the third order, Michael MacDonald, a homeowner in McCormick, South Carolina,

petitioned the Commission for a ruling on restrictions imposed by the Savannah Lakes

Property Owners Association. The MacDonald order rejects Savannah Lakes' assertion that

it is exempt from the Rule because it is near a Paleo-Indian archeological site. The order

(DA 97-2189) preempts Savannah Lakes' permit and prior approval requirements because

they impose unreasonable delay on antenna installation in violation of the Rule. The order

also finds that Savannah Lakes' requirement that antenna users hire an installer solely to

certify that installation in the Association's preferred location would interfere with reception

imposed unreasonable expense. Finally, the order preempts Savannah Lakes' placement

preferences, screening and camouflaging requirements, and its threat to deny community

privileges on the basis that they conflict with the Rule's prohibition of restrictions that

impose unreasonable cost or unreasonable delay or prevent antenna installation, maintenance,

or use unless necessary for safety or historic preservation considerations.


Action by the Chief, Cable Services Bureau, October 10, 1997, by Orders (DA 97-

2187, DA 97-2188, DA 97-2189).


--FCC--


News Media Contact: Morgan Broman at (202) 418-2358

Cable Services Bureau Contacts: Nancy Markowitz, Eloise Gore at (202) 418-7200

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Then there is the FCC FACT SHEET for Over-the-Air Reception Devices Rule dated May 2001. See it at:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html


For our purposes, this is the latest FCC ruling and for our area, i.e. Cascades, these are the pertinent revelations:


1.

Homeowners are allowed to have and use OTA antennas, regardless of HOA restrictions to the contrary, as long as they do not exceed 12' above the roofline and do not present a safety hazard, i.e., meeting electrical code, properly grounded against lightning and using accepted workmanship standards.


2.

Other than in historic areas, HOA's are not allowed to require ANY kind of permitting to allow OTA antenna installation and use.


3.

Burden of (any) proof lies with the HOA.


These are pretty strong facts folks and our Design Guidelines need to accept the reality of all this. Case in point, two local HOA's have already amended their rules in just this light.


See the enclosed PDF file "DesignII.pdf" to see what the HOA at Farmwell Hunt did. (You will need Adobe Acrobat Reader to open this document.) A wise and concise choice of wording if you ask me. One that perhaps Cascades can appropriate.


Also, please see the Exeter (Leesburg) Homeowners Association Homeowner Handbook at:

http://www.exeterhoa.com/handbook/handbook.htm#antennas


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EXETER Architectural Review Board Design Guidelines


Antennas/Satellite Dishes


General Considerations & Guidelines


The Telecommunications Act of 1996 has modified Article VI, Section 9 of the Declaration. Antennas and Satellite Dishes not larger than one meter (39") are permitted. Below are the recommendations and guidelines to assist in the placement of an Antenna or Satellite Dish.


All Satellite Dishes must be one meter or less in diameter.


Although roof top Antennas are permitted under the Telecommunications Act, the use of attic Antennas (installed in the attic) is encouraged.


Per FCC recommendations, Antenna and Satellite Dish supports are limited to a maximum of 12 feet above the roof line.


All wiring for Antennas and Satellite Dishes must be properly secured. In some instances wiring may be required to be concealed.


Should Satellite Dishes be produced with color options, the color selections should complement the houses basic colors, following the same guidelines as exterior painting. Otherwise, the color should remain as originally purchased; neutral tones, black, gray, tan.


There should be no commercial advertising on the Satellite Dish itself, other than the brand name.


Based on the required positioning to receive transmissions, Antennas/Satellite Dishes should be placed in an inconspicuous location, and should not be placed in areas where it would constitute a safety hazard.


Antennas/Satellite Dishes must be placed on the homeowners property, not in any common areas.


Submission Requirements


In accordance with FCC Regulations, no prior approval is required. However, Antennas/Satellite Dishes must follow above guidelines and meet any and all FCC requirements under the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

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This wording also works for me.


Now if all of this hasn't convinced you yet, I would like to call your attention to one more PDF document I am enclosing here as an attachment. It is entitled "FCCQ&A.pdf" and was brought to my attention by the fine folks at:


Community Associations Institute (CAI)
http://www.caionline.org/


Anyway, CAI suggested I contact a particular law firm in Colorado:


Orten & Hindman

11901 W. 48th Avenue, Wheat Ridge, Colorado 80033-2166

(ph) (303) 432-9999 or (800) 809-5242 (fax) 432-0999


Now it seems that Orten & Hindman is one of the preeminent Law Firms specializing in the area of Community Association Law. I'm told that most any Community Association Professional would know of the firm. In any event, they are the author of the enclosed "FCCQ&A.pdf" document which is specifically written for HOA's to revise their Design Guidelines for antennas and gain compliance with Section 207 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and subsequent the rulings by the FCC.


I suggest each Board member read this document, it is only 8 pages long and concise. It essentially restates what I have been saying all along, but I include it here as a relevant legal reference and a unbiased source of expert information to aid in decision making.
 

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Way to go, Sasha.

I like people who express themselves so well.
 

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What a well-researched and well-written letter that is. I'm sure you will be successful in getting your HOA to see the light. The reference to the law firm in Colorado, and the document written by them, should be particularly compelling.


Good luck in your efforts!


ps Boy am I grateful I don't have to deal with a HOA.
 

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If I may diverge from the whole mission of the AVSforum for a moment (my apologies). I was just browsing the community associations institute site you mentioned, and I found reference to a very disturbing case. I *think* the case is supposed to be hypothetical, but just the idea that it needs discussion is sickening.


this is cut-and-pasted

Ms. Collins, a paraplegic confined to a wheelchair, lives in a condominium association. She is an active person, and is employed full-time. It is necessary that she install a ramp and a special type of door in order to get in and out of her unit with her wheelchair. Her request is denied by the architectural control committee to allow her to put in the special equipment she needs.


As the article goes on it says that Ms. Collins would probably prevail in a court case, but it angers me to the core that any HOA would think for one second that it is "ok" for them to deny someone the ability to get in to their damn house because it makes the neighborhood "ugly".
 

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I put a Radio Shack antenna (5 foot 2x4 looking one) on the side of my townhouse and immediately got slack from the HOA.


So, here is how I solved my problem. Got myself voted in as VP and Ok'd the antenna as my first piece of business.


Problem solved!!!


I have to agree that HOA's can be ridiculous. Their intent is good. You don't want you neigbor painting his house all black with a big mural of Marilyn Manson on it. But, people need to follow the spirit of the law and not the letter.


The post about the woman who needs the handicap access makes me want to move to a farm in the middle of nowhere. What are these people thinking?


Ok, I'm done ranting. But, I am saving this thread in case we need to go to bat against the President here.
 

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If your HOA wants to play games, play one with THEM.....


Tell them you have an old, analog pacemaker, and it's very susceptible to radiation. Your body parts ("the Association") held a meeting and have decided they want to keep their old, outdated ways.

So.....you must INSIST that none of your neighbors have cell phones or computers in their condos!

Also, no flourescent or neon lights. And, certainly no alarm systems or home networking! Wouldn't want to put your pacemaker in jeopardy and maybe have a lawsuit on their hands!
 

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My HOA had something similar restrictions. I printed out the fact sheet from the FCC web site, showed them to the president and then the covenants were changed. I am getting a 100% signal strength from my Radio Shack antenna in my attic but I did want to go a head and get the covenants changed.
 
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