[jagerbombster]

Need a little help here.


Trying to figure out my riser and can't come up with a solution that I like.


Problem I have is the room will only be 12' wide after the treatments. I'm looking at Berkline 88's or a similar smaller footprint.


I don't know the recommended width between wall and the riser.

The riser calculator recommended 11 3/4" on my riser thinking about going a little shorter.


Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm open to all suggestions.


Thanks.


Trey

 

[chinadog]

Trey,


I believe you want at least a 24" aisle, 30" would probably better. You could probably do 24 though. I like the second design better. Tell me, are you planning on more than two columns? Are those columns solely to conceal side surrounds? If so, then scrap them (for hiding sides) and go with on-walls or in-walls (my preference) to get back some width. You can do maybe some bump out columns (like jikkjack's or like Chad did in the theater we build for him) for aesthetics or breaking up vertical fabric. You can easily hide the in-walls with fabric or a fabric panel.


I had only 12' width and decided I wasn't going to sacrifice width for columns. Also, send jikkjack a PM or check his thread. He's go a narrow room (like 12'), has a floating riser with 3 Berk 88s per row and has the bump outs in photos.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...light=jikkjack


Also, if you want to check out our theaters on a weekend, let us know. We can also come by and check out your place if you need any help.


Bud

 

[jagerbombster]

Bud,


Thanks for the info. The columns are there for the surrounds. I had others planned in the rear and one more on the side


The door in the center is creating problems for me, probably thinking about this too much.


I have actually considered doing away with the columns by the riser...have to do some more figuring.


The second design is really my first. I had actually put it together and tore it back down.


Didn't look right to me....plus I thought about adding a bar to the rear of the floating riser and didn't have enough room with the step.


Wife liked it though and she's a bit ticked that I took it apart.


I think the 88's are my best option for the size of my room too. I'll have to contact jikkjack and see how he likes them.


Anytime you are on the eastside I'm sure I could use a hand!

 

[kjlewie]

I like #2 as well. Why is the step so wide? It looks like it is about 6 feet across. If you could make room in the back for your bar #2 looks good. On the other hand, take a look at this link to see a really well done island riser and rear cabinets in Strangebrew's thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=735097 . His room is a little bigger but the space around the riser is about the same as your first drawing.

 

[warrenP]

Can your door swing out instead of in? You could then have more room for your step configuration inside. I'd then suggest you enter the room, and have two steps, one on both the left and right side, perpendicular to what you have now (but with roughly the same width of a floor level space as you have now).

 

[jagerbombster]



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Originally Posted by warrenP /forum/post/15481919


Can your door swing out instead of in? You could then have more room for your step configuration inside. I'd then suggest you enter the room, and have two steps, one on both the left and right side, perpendicular to what you have now (but with roughly the same width of a floor level space as you have now).

I wish I could swing it out. That would be half of the battle. I'd love to do exactly what you are describing.


I can't do that though. I actually have another door on the other side. This door was an after thought for soundproofing and might not even be necessary. Kinda nutty that I did this now that I think about it!

 

[jagerbombster]



Quote:
Originally Posted by kjlewie /forum/post/15481630


I like #2 as well. Why is the step so wide? It looks like it is about 6 feet across.

It is close to 6 feet...only to make it wide enough to open the doors all the way. Does look a bit on the wide side.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kjlewie /forum/post/15481630


If you could make room in the back for your bar #2 looks good. On the other hand, take a look at this link to see a really well done island riser and rear cabinets in Strangebrew's thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=735097 . His room is a little bigger but the space around the riser is about the same as your first drawing.

I saw that thread last week and that's what made me tear down my other riser!

I liked the look and pictured a bar with bar stools in the rear.


Wish my room was about 2 foot wider and 6ft longer...Oh well, gotta deal with what you got.


Thanks.

 

[jagerbombster]

I'm starting to second guess myself in tearing down my original riser.


It was #2 just a bit longer than the one pictured.


I originally planned on entering...going up the step and having to go right or left behind the couch and use aisles on sides.


I'm now thinking I can reduce the length and put the couch closer to the door and use a center riser with 2- 88's in a 2 chair configuration. Should have over 40" of aisle space in between them.


Then I can step to the right or left in front of the chairs to the floor and place a 3 chair configuration in the middle on the floor.


This would actually help me get my front row back a foot or so which is really needed.


Right now the front row eye distance would be 9.5 feet. Not bad but a little close.

I'll have to get home and draw it up.


That might work best...dunno.


what do you guys think?

 

[budk]

Is there any chance that your stop could be outside of the room with the door raised to match?

 

[jagerbombster]



Quote:
Originally Posted by budk /forum/post/15486772


Is there any chance that your stop could be outside of the room with the door raised to match?

Unfortunately I can't since the doors are all set. Plus, my outer door is a set of center opening doors. I thought it would be cool to press a button and the doors would open to the theater.


I later realized how much sound would leak out of the room so I added the "interior" door.


I need to snap some pics for a better explanation.


Trey

 

[jagerbombster]

Here is my latest idea. Not perfect because I'm new with sketchup.


What programs do you guys use?


Only problem is no columns. 30" aisle will work.


I could install my speakers in the soffit above or on the wall.


I also didn't allow the doors to open "completely" to reduce the landing size and step.

 

[kjlewie]

I remember a build like this where the poster used Berkline 88s on the riser and 90s on the floor - looked really good. I'll see if I can find the pic.


I'm no acoustic expert, but I'd be concerned about the sound at the rear outside seats since they will be against the side walls. For me, it would not be a deal breaker as far as compromises go but something to consider. Maybe someone with more acoustic expertise will weigh in.


kjlewie

 

[kjlewie]

Here is the link I mentioned - post #46.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ighlight=riser

 

[jagerbombster]



Quote:
Originally Posted by kjlewie /forum/post/15494575


I remember a build like this where the poster used Berkline 88s on the riser and 90s on the floor - looked really good. I'll see if I can find the pic.


I'm no acoustic expert, but I'd be concerned about the sound at the rear outside seats since they will be against the side walls. For me, it would not be a deal breaker as far as compromises go but something to consider. Maybe someone with more acoustic expertise will weigh in.


kjlewie

I agree. I really didn't want the seats in this configuration. I originally wanted the seat in the center right behind the other. This option will give me one extra seat.


Still not set in stone. I might go back to the 3 seat configuration in the rear with aisles on the side.


Going to try a "mock up" of both this weekend and see which one I like better.


Thanks for the link. I missed that one.