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I see these guidelines listed for many subs, like on the HSU website, and it leads me to wonder.....


Are these just "loose guidelines" that somebody, somewhere, is saying "should produce enough sound pressure (in there own personal opinion) for a room of said size"....... "OR" do these subs actually require a large, or very large room, to work properly, or else they will sound like garbage ?


Hey, I might have a small room to work with, but I really like "BIG" sound !


Any of you have BIG systems in small rooms ? Have you experienced any problems because of this ?


Just curious,

Fish
 

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that's what I'd like to think. Heck, I used to have 600 watts of bass concentrated in the cab of a Chevy S-10 pickup, and I never had any problems..... Excuse me ? Did you say something ? Doh ! ;-) Lots of mids and highs though too. It was a very balanced system. I loved it.


Seriously though, I'd love to be able to develop just half the sound pressure in a small room, that I did in the cab of that pickup !


Peace,

Fish
 

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Take a look at SandmanX's theater construction in the custom theater construction forum. He has about a 2500 ft3 room. I hooked him up with a Danley Labs DTS-20 in that space. 8 feet of horsepower. Yes, it is sheer utter overkill. He loves it
 

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Sub size guidelines are targeted at people trying to purchase the minimum needed. The criteria you should use, besides room volume, are available floor space, budget, capability of the satellites and the amp to drive them. You can buy more sub than you can use, but you don't have to use all the sub you buy. A worse situation is to not have enough woofage. There are a lot of controls to constrain a powerful sub, but nothing that can really improve a weak sub. Skimp at your own risk.
 

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so then 3 or 4 HSU VTF 3 HO's shouldn't be "too much" for the small living room of a mobile home, huh ? ;-)


BTW, I totally agree that it's better to have 1000 watt's of bass, and only use 200 of it, than to need 1000 watts and only have 200 available.


I can only dream of a system which is so powerful, that I can crank it to as high of levels as I can stand....... and still not clip anything :)


In all seriousness though, I will probably end up going with the HSU VTF 2.3.


Thanks again guys,

Fish
 

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Not too much, just way more than you need.


I would first get the HTIB you are looking at, turn off the sub, use an SPL meter and see how far you can drive the satellites before they give up. Then get a sub that can at least match the satellites.
 

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Yes, yes. As I had said in that other thread, I will get the HTiB first. And yes, I hope I am surprised with what the powered sub (and the surrounds), that comes with my Onkyo 790, can do.


But still, I can hardly imagine being able to afford a sub woofer which is just flat "too much"..... as I can always just cross it over as low as I have to, to prevent it from being too loud..... and then if I still have so much power available that it's not even trying to clip..... well how sweet would that be, huh ? :)


I'm telling you, if I had real money, my system would be freaking rediculous ! But in reality, what I'm hoping for (with all of your guys help) is a set up which is "almost rediculous" on a lot less $$$ ;-)


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Sounds like you have had a really bad experience. Unless you use a square room and sit right in the middle of it, I don't believe you will have the issue you are describing if you purchase any of the often recommended subs on this forum. The HSU VTF-2 Mk3 is a good choice.
 

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Seriously though, I'd love to be able to develop just half the sound pressure in a small room, that I did in the cab of that pickup !

Just keep adding subs to your room until the effective volume of your room approaches that of your pickup.

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so then 3 or 4 HSU VTF 3 HO's shouldn't be "too much" for the small living room of a mobile home, huh ?

No, but you may want to block the wheels.
 

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Yes,I have a system(two systems really)in a tiny room. How tiny, how is 9.5feet wide by 11feet long by 6.5ft high(the mezzanine cuts the room in two,leaving 6.5' down and around 6' up).



If I told you how many subs(and what speakers/amps and other gear) and what subs you would be saying YEAH RIGHT!




And guess what it all sounds amazingly good,correct placement is key. From the subs,speakers to the ALL IMPORTANT...sitting position.


Take for example multiple JL Audio subs stacked,Klispch RSW's stacked,Paradigm Seismics...stacked...and on...


Bass is efortless and simply awe inspiring when the recording contains deep bass.



As I said I'll post pics near the end of this month just to prove the point to someone.And that yes many many subs work great in small spaces.
 
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