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Which one to choose? One thing I think I can say for sure...there is no wrong choice. Heck, I didn't even know where I should post this, so I just thought I would start a new thread. I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way.



One thing I have figured out, I think I would pick the S64 over the S60, if they become available in my area. The 65" is the same price as the 60" ST. For a 65" model, which is what I want and need, that's just a great value.


If I want to spend more, I think I would choose the VT over the ST just for looks alone. I mean I'm being honest, who doesn't like it when your friends say "man that's a great looking TV" when it's not even on yet. I have always liked those thin bezels on the LED's. I bet the 201X model will have no bezel at all.


And then there's the ZT......there's just something good about knowing you have the best plasma of 2013, but will I or anyone watching at my house be able to tell the difference between the ZT or S series?


Can't forget about the Samsung 8500 either. I haven't seen any of these sets but I'm sure the Samsung will be right there with the Panasonic's.


For those of you who have made your decision already, congrats and I would love to hear your thoughts on why you chose the set you did.


This is driving me crazy....but I love it!
 

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The answer really depends on your budget and what you are looking to get out of the TV and what type of envirnment the TV will be in. Once you figure out a price that you are comforatbale paying, you can narrow down your choices. There are bounes and drawbacks to every set. When it comes down to it though, youll have to see the sets in perdon before making that final jump since your eyes will be the ones watching
 

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Originally Posted by Tim Akin  /t/1469629/s60-or-s64-or-st60-or-vt60-or-maybe-zt60-oh-yeah-60-or-65#post_23236550


And then there's the ZT......there's just something good about knowing you have the best plasma of 2013, but will I or anyone watching at my house be able to tell the difference between the ZT or S series?
If you watch with controlled lighting, quite possibly.
 

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If you watch with controlled lighting, quite possibly.

I would agreee with this, BUT only if they ahve seen both to compare, afterall you dont know what you are missing unless you have seen something better\worse to compare to.
 

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Well my plans are to go to BB tonight and check out the ST. I hope they have a VT also. I have narrowed it down to these two as of today but I change my mind about every two hours I think. My wife makes fun of me every night because of the big deal I'm making of this.
 

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I went for the VT60, saw it didn't think much of it then saw the samsung F8500 which looked better then saw the Elite PRO-60X5FD which looked terrific and then I don't know. I have zero idea what to buy anymore. I'm thinking more and more about getting something new or even used around $1200 and wait 'til the dust settles.
 

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Everything I've been reading says to go look at them for yourself....and then you read, you can't really go by the way they look at the store, you have to get it home and apply one of the calibrator's setting to see what it's really gonna do. I hope I can get something figured out.
 

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Originally Posted by Tim Akin  /t/1469629/s60-or-s64-or-st60-or-vt60-or-maybe-zt60-oh-yeah-60-or-65#post_23241072


Everything I've been reading says to go look at them for yourself....and then you read, you can't really go by the way they look at the store, you have to get it home and apply one of the calibrator's setting to see what it's really gonna do. I hope I can get something figured out.

Tim, there are things youll never see in the showroom that will come at home, its better to see the sets in person though because it gives you a "better" idea than any internet opinion could ever do of how you will like the set. When it comes down to it, numbers and opinions mean little if you are not happy with the way a set does something....The viewing of the set in person while not 100% is better than blind buying
 

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I'm going through the same thing. I can make an argument for every set (except the S60...too much glare!)


I think, even if I had enough money to comfortably afford any of them (which I don't :-( ) I would go VT60. Seems likely it will be very close to the ZT60, and without the extra price tag.
 

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Tim, there are things youll never see in the showroom that will come at home, its better to see the sets in person though because it gives you a "better" idea than any internet opinion could ever do of how you will like the set. When it comes down to it, numbers and opinions mean little if you are not happy with the way a set does something....The viewing of the set in person while not 100% is better than blind buying
I sure if I could see the ST, VT and 8500 all side by side I could make some kind of decision. Thanks, I know your right
 

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Originally Posted by Tim Akin  /t/1469629/s60-or-s64-or-st60-or-vt60-or-maybe-zt60-oh-yeah-60-or-65#post_23241550


I sure if I could see the ST, VT and 8500 all side by side I could make some kind of decision. Thanks, I know your right

That will be tough to do most likely, but eeasier to get the VT60 and the F8500 side by side sicne they are usually in the Magnolia section of best buy....If you have an AV shop that has the sets, they have have them side by side though......one thing I suggest is ask for the remote control for the TVs and play around with the settings and adjust to a picture you like. Once you get off the "store set" mode ofte opinions can change either way....
 

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Went to BB last night and all they had was the 60ST60. I did find out that there is no reason to upgrade to the VT. I was told by the BB employee the only difference between the ST and VT is trhe stand.
So a grand more for a nicer stand huh
 

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you might want to get a second opinion. On that more differences than just the stand whether those differences are worth the price jump is subjective


Amazing to me how mis-informed some best buy employees really are
 

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Originally Posted by Tim Akin  /t/1469629/s60-or-s64-or-st60-or-vt60-or-maybe-zt60-oh-yeah-60-or-65#post_23243552


Went to BB last night and all they had was the 60ST60. I did find out that there is no reason to upgrade to the VT. I was told by the BB employee the only difference between the ST and VT is trhe stand.
So a grand more for a nicer stand huh


If you ahve one with a Magnolia then they should the VT as well, but it may still be getting "rolled out". I know the Best Buy closest to me has the VT and the F8500 out on display. I ahvent looked for the ST really. As far as what they said, it sounds typical of the misinformed reps that Ive encountered numerous times. Thats why its best to get as much information you can before going in



Of course I was told that the Pioneer engineers went to Samsung :rolleyes:and not Panasonic
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I new more than them just by coming here to AVS. I was like, just go away a let me marvel over this plasma without being made to laugh. My plans are now to go to the magnolia store which is another 50 miles away in a couple of weeks...... our 10 month old grandchild lives there, so no problem.
 

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I find myself in a similar predicament, in that I just found the S64 at Costco. I WAS pretty much dead set on getting the 60ST60, but now that I've found the S64 at Costco, which is larger TV for less money, I'm not so sure anymore. I'm given to believe that the S64 is kind of in-between the S60 and ST60. So, you get the AR filter of the ST60, but not quite all of the other bells and whistles? I guess I'm not quite sure what all of the differences are, which is why I'm a little hesitant to go with the S64. Honestly, I think the 60" would be more than enough, in terms of size (this is replacing a 55" RP-CRT), but hey, if I can get a 65" for less money, I'd take it, so long as I'm not giving up a whole lot of useful features for it. Can anyone shed some light on the differences between the S64 and the ST60? Or does this need to be in a different thread?
 

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I find myself in a similar predicament, in that I just found the S64 at Costco. I WAS pretty much dead set on getting the 60ST60, but now that I've found the S64 at Costco, which is larger TV for less money, I'm not so sure anymore. I'm given to believe that the S64 is kind of in-between the S60 and ST60. So, you get the AR filter of the ST60, but not quite all of the other bells and whistles? I guess I'm not quite sure what all of the differences are, which is why I'm a little hesitant to go with the S64. Honestly, I think the 60" would be more than enough, in terms of size (this is replacing a 55" RP-CRT), but hey, if I can get a 65" for less money, I'd take it, so long as I'm not giving up a whole lot of useful features for it. Can anyone shed some light on the differences between the S64 and the ST60? Or does this need to be in a different thread?
You are probably giving up some black levels and contrast but might not be noticable to the average viewer. The main thing you are also losing is 3d. So if that does or does not matter to you that might make your decision easier.


Costco has a 90 day return period. I say try it out if you do not care about 3d. Once you have it in your house you will probably love it and not even know what you are missing with the ST60. Once you have a 65" in your home it will probably be hard to go down to a 60" though.
 

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bang for the buck is easy with the S64...for top level quality you can have fun comparing the zt and 8500. I preferred the vt50 to the 8500 if that tells you anything, but I wanted to pay under 2k and get 65" so the choice was easier for me.
 
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