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I feel compelled as a fan of the '80s action-men to at least acknowledge the epic-fail of my once-upon-a-time movie idol Arnold. "Sabotage" did a whopping $1.83 million on opening night and $5.2 million overall. Literally his worst opening ever.


In all honesty I saw the movie with a couple friends and our boys. We all really enjoyed "Escape Plan" last year so we had hope! I am in no way one to take issue with language or violence in movies, so while I wasn't bothered by the plethora of both, it was kind of annoying how much that dominated the screen-time in lieu of actual...you know...acting and story:-/


I think in the first 5-minutes of the film there were more F-bombs than all of Arnold's previous films combined. It is what it is but it got to the point I was losing track of what they were actually talking about because of all the m-fers, f-ing this and that and the other, and so on getting in the way.


High points of the movie were that it actually had a decent story underneath to go along with, for lack of a better term, hyper-realistic violence and procedure. Some hammered it for those aspects, but I actually kind of appreciated the realistic tone they set with the action. In that respect alone it was similar to what Ayer pulled off in "End of Watch".


Anyways, I felt it was somewhat my duty as an Arnold fan to at least acknowledge this cinematic marvel. Thanks for the time all!
 

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The main reason people stay away from Arnold's recent movies is that he's really fossilized and very hard to look at, his whole movie persona was someone that was invincible, now he looks like he'll break a hip tying his shoelaces. The awful Hitler haircut in this movie didn't help things either. Same goes for Mel Gibson, even if he hadn't went batsh..t crazy, his career would have severely declined anyway because he got so old and ugly, who would have thought out of all the 80s action stars, the only one that still commands any respect is...Van Damme.
 

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Originally Posted by Roger Lococco  /t/1525126/sabotage#post_24552187


who would have thought out of all the 80s action stars, the only one that still commands any respect is...Van Damme.

Except he's only 54, Arnold and Sly are almost 70.


...And:






Mel Gibson on the set of The Expendables 3, not bad for 58!
 

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Gonna go see this tonight. Hope it's good.

How was it? I want to see this too.
 

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Dreadful. Save your time and money. This maybe the end of Arnold, no thanks to the director who made this movie absolute crap with a first rate cast and seriously deficient writing. Somehow, it was even worse than Deviant that was 2 hours 20 minutes. That must have been one of the longest 109 minutes that I have sat through recently.
 

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I don't care,..just happy to see Arnold back in show biz. Like the other day he did some commercial with a wig playing ping pong, I was just smiling & thinking it was great to see him back actively happy to do anything to gain his popularity back. And he really looks like he's having fun with his 2nd career resurgence after politics you can just see it. He's fresh and hungry to be back. There isn't really no grade or rating for this kind of icon personal that's just priceless.


His charisma, star power, likeability is world wide and I still rather watch even something mediocre from Arnold than most any day any way. And his movies always attract the best people in production & cast members. Again it's all priceless and you cannot judge him or give him or his movie a grade like any other movie.


People will still come out and pay no matter what movie he's in. Unless he is careless and wreck less with no intention on making a decent entertaining movie with back to back pure trash films, he will always bring in box office gold.
 

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Well, people - or at least film producer kinda' people - do seem to have forgiven Ah-nuld's misogynistic tendency to grope unwilling females in his close proximity. And then lie about it. So there's that.
 

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People will still come out and pay no matter what movie he's in. Unless he is careless and wreck less with no intention on making a decent entertaining movie with back to back pure trash films, he will always bring in box office gold.

All of his recent films have been major disappointements and flops and Sabotage will be no exception. People just don't care anymore. Escape Plan was the only one where he did act much more than usual, which isn't saying a lot, but it was decent, I liked the movie. He's not Conan or The Terminator anymore, he should focus on acting more (and maybe that's what he intends to do and that's fine). His political career made him irrelevant in Hollywood, and it's gonna be very hard to be relevant again. Stallone is getting older too, but at least he never stopped working (out
), which might be why he was able to build a franchise like The Expendables, and he's probably a smart business man too, so having Statham on his side warranted a certain interest from the "modern" action fanbase, who would not be particularly interested in a bunch of testosteronized grandpas doing their thing, no matter how cool it is to see them on the big screen.


It will take a miracle for the next Terminator film to be half decent and not a pitiful joke. Like they used to say in Lethal Weapon, he's "too old for this sh!t".
 

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I wouldn't say all his recent films were disappointments. I really enjoyed Last Stand. Might give it another spin later this week.
 

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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian  /t/1525126/sabotage#post_24554371


It was a bit different ...for an Arnold movie. Probably need to let it set in a bit.


However I can say it well earned dat R rating.




See, Carl. You gotta take the good with the bad.

I do enjoy a good Ahnold R rated feature. Will rent the BD when it's available.
 

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Yeah, maybe get a cheap rental or wait for premium channels for this one.

It MIGHT be worth a Redbox if you have nothing else to do with that $1.50.


Arnold looks good physically in the movie and it isn't hard to buy what you see him do. Obviously no one over 60 would be a tactical team leader in the field doing what they do in this movie, but he doesn't really look that out of place, so it didn't take me out of the role so-to-speak.


I would LOVE to see Arnold have a role like Sly did in "Cop Land". I really think he has the ability to pull a role like that off and it would be great to see.


That said...here's to hoping "Expendables 3" rocks!
 

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What are you fellas talking about...quit tripping acting all high & mighty alright you know all y'all will be seeing the Godfather of Action when it comes out on dvd.
 

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Quote:Originally Posted by Scott Simonian 

It was a bit different ...for an Arnold movie. Probably need to let it set in a bit.

However I can say it well earned dat R rating.



See, Carl. You gotta take the good with the bad.



I do enjoy a good Ahnold R rated feature. Will rent the BD when it's available.
Will be renting this next week
 

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Watched this last night. Better than I thought it would be. But not as much fun as Last Stand. No replay value for me. A quality rental.
 
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