[DarkAdept]

I'm surprised that the various sites tracking sales statistcs aren't comparing these two items. Presumably if you're buying either one, it's because you're using the relevant system to watch movies? They're conveniently in the same category on Amazon and the current status is as follows:


PS3 BD Remote: #11

360 HD DVD: #73


Of course it's possible that people are just buying the PS3 remote to watch DVDs, but it seems pretty darned unlikely. I'm actually quite surprised at the high rank of the PS3 remote - it's currently just above the Xbox 360 premium, and ahead of Zelda for the Wii. There's clearly demand from PS3 owners to use the system as a Blu-ray player.

 

[Dundidit]

Wow that is an excellent point.

 

[TwinTurboZX]

That ranking is still not totally doing the PS3 justice since there are a lot of people who are perfectly happy using the SIXAXIS for DB playback.

 

[dad1153]

A $200 HD-DVD attachment and a $25 remote are different types of products. One is cheap-enough to be almost considered an impulse buy, the other a little pricier (and thus least likely to be purchased on a whim) piece of electronic equipment. Hell, I don't own a PS3 yet (will pull the trigger when there's more than one game worth buying) and if I came across a PS3 remote I'd probably buy it knowing they're hard to come by in stores.

 

[DarkAdept]



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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX /forum/post/0


That ranking is still not totally doing the PS3 justice since there are a lot of people who are perfectly happy using the SIXAXIS for DB playback.

Entirely true, but given that this is likely under-reporting the people who are using the system to play Blu-ray titles, I think the sales are quite impressive. It certainly addresses the claims of skeptics who believe that not many will consider using the system to play movies.

 

[TwinTurboZX]



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Originally Posted by dad1153 /forum/post/0


A $200 HD-DVD attachment and a $25 remote are different types of products. One is cheap-enough to be almost considered an impulse buy, the other a little pricier (and thus least likely to be purchased on a whim) piece of electronic equipment. Hell, I don't own a PS3 yet (will pull the trigger when there's more than one game worth buying) and if I came across a PS3 remote I'd probably buy it knowing they're hard to come by in stores.

HDDVD supporter to the rescue. Nice spin.

 

[DarkAdept]



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Originally Posted by dad1153 /forum/post/0


A $200 HD-DVD attachment and a $25 remote are different types of products. One is cheap-enough to be almost considered an impulse buy, the other a little pricier (and thus least likely to be purchased on a whim) piece of electronic equipment. Hell, I don't own a PS3 yet (will pull the trigger when there's more than one game worth buying) and if I came across a PS3 remote I'd probably buy it knowing they're hard to come by in stores.

I thought the price difference before posting, but I don't think it has a substantial impact. You simply wouldn't be buying the remote if you weren't seriously considering using the PS3 as a movie playback device. I doubt a substantial portion of the buyers have no intention of using their purchase.

 

[TwinTurboZX]



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Originally Posted by DarkAdept /forum/post/0


I thought the price difference before posting, but I don't think it has a substantial impact. You simply wouldn't be buying the remote if you weren't seriously considering using the PS3 as a movie playback device. I doubt a substantial portion of the buyers have no intention of using their purchase.

Exactly!! Also, at this point I doubt anyone would blow $25 on the remote just to play DVDs since they probably already have at least 2 DVD players in the house.

 

[Rob Zuber]

As a BD supporter, I will say it doesn't make sense to compare these two because of the price difference.

 

[tdavis21484]



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Originally Posted by DarkAdept /forum/post/0


I thought the price difference before posting, but I don't think it has a substantial impact. You simply wouldn't be buying the remote if you weren't seriously considering using the PS3 as a movie playback device. I doubt a substantial portion of the buyers have no intention of using their purchase.

I agree that people aren't buying the remote as an impulse - if you buy that remote, you're planning on watching movies. But the question is - what kind of movies?


As one poster pointed out, purchasing the remote may mean you're watching standard DVDs or Blu-ray movies - there's no real way to tell. Anyone buying the XBox HD DVD drive is watching HD DVDs - period.


You can't compare the two, as much as some Blu-ray fans would like to. Be honest with yourself, and you'll come to the same conclusion.

 

[Dave Mack]

I am a Bd supporter too but it really seems like some of these "rah rah" cheerleader posts are almost asking for trouble....

We all hate the trolls yet this is nothing but bait, I think

 

[TwinTurboZX]



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Originally Posted by Dave Mack /forum/post/0


I am a Bd supporter too but it really seems like some of these "rah rah" cheerleader posts are almost asking for trouble....

We all hate the trolls yet this is nothing but bait, I think

The funny thing is though on this forum the Blu-ray "rah rah cheerleader" posts are closed but the HDDVD "rah rah cheerleader" posts are left up.

 

[SAFOOL]

I know when the xbox first came out they used sales of the remote to gauge interest in dvd play back on the console.

 

[freeky1]

I use my PS3 primarily to play BD's, and my son uses it to play games when I am not around. I have been putting off buying the remote until I can find one in a local store.


I wish I had had a 55" plasma TV with a gaming system and 1410 watt audio system connected to it when I was 14 years old!

 

[gand41f]



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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX /forum/post/0


That ranking is still not totally doing the PS3 justice since there are a lot of people who are perfectly happy using the SIXAXIS for DB playback.

That's me! That's me! I love the fact that the Sixaxis (sorry don't like the all caps, too much like shouting) is designed to be a game controller and as such I can easily find the buttons in the dark.

But I agree with others about the price difference--you need a much stronger desire to watch high-def movies to purchase the HD DVD add-on than the BD remote. It probably shows that PS3 is successful in getting a lot of people at least interested in BD, though. Many people who bought PS3 are "trying out" the BD playback, and are pleased enough to buy the remote thinking they'll watch many more. Whether that commitment lasts or not is anyone's guess.

interesting find

gandalf

 

[Dave Mack]

Very true, twinturbo. Also the BD and PS3 bashathons stay open as well....

 

[Dave Mack]

Yep, it's true. The "Ps3 sales disappoint in Japan" thread can stay open with loads of exaggeration and outright misinformation, (some Yahoo there is comparing the $299 core to the $599 Ps3 as equal. hmmm, there is also, a $499 PS3 and the core has no hard drive, you know to save games on and download stuff etc... and no HD disc playback capability, no HDMI, no next gen audio, and yet they are "equal...!)

So, that thread stays open in the PS forum where supposedly only PS owners are supposed to post yet if I go to the HDdvd forum and say I don't like the Toshiba remote, the thread will get locked and I'll be warned and risk suspension...

 

[d3code]

actually it should not be compared to xbox 360 addon.


however what this point out as i said all allong, that gamers do watch movies on their ps3. that is what this thread starter makes an exellent point off. people simply wouldnt buy the ps3 remote control if they wouldnt watch movies on it. dvd or bluray doesnt care. movies are watched on the ps3.

 

[Degenerazn]

I fail to see the point of this comparison. You are comparing a $200 HD DVD addon with a $25 remote??

 

[darinp2]

For another comparison, the PS3 remote is ranked higher than the wireless controller for the PS3. The component cable for the Wii that that is $5 cheaper did pass this remote by one spot. While the price differences will probably upset some people, I think it is significant that the Blu-ray remote for the PS3 is ranked higher than even the $400 XBOX360. That thing has been selling well (although I'm sure it has dropped after Christmas).


And while I'm sure there are some people who are buying this remote to watch DVDs and not BDs, if I'm Disney, Fox, or Sony and see a lot of people doing that, I'm thinking that they have to be an easy group to advertise to. Take a big title like "Casino Royale" and convince them to watch the Blu-ray version instead of the DVD version. They already have the player and they already have the remote.


For people who have a problem with comparing sales of the remote to sales of higher cost items, if the add-on was $25 would it then be okay to compare the sales ranks? I just see this as one indicator that many people are using the PS3 for watching movies (although some of them will be getting it for DVDs).


Regardless of how much the 20GB XBOX360 costs, if we could figure out how many they sell and the PS3 remote was selling slightly better, then we would have a good idea of the minimum number of those sold. Of course, we don't know how many XBOX360s get sold at Amazon vs elsewhere, but this is just one more piece of information that points us in a general direction IMO. If the remote was in stock and ranked at #1000 with a bunch of stuff that looks like it wouldn't sell much, I would consider that a bad sign for how many people would use the PS3 as a BD movie player.


--Darin