[Spidergames]

i never seen or knew this came out....

 

[Micolash]

It was in 2013, along with LG's first WOLED. The Samsung was true RGB.

 

[Spidergames]

It was in 2013, along with LG's first WOLED. The Samsung was true RGB.

what happen?

 

[video_analysis]

One and they were done. No route for economies of scale to bring down the cost (and soluble blue lifetimes are still a problem today).

 

[AnalogHD]

That's the [in]famous KE55S9, Samsung's ancient attempt at making an OLED.

It scored a close 2nd in 2014 Value Electronics TV Shootout, right after LG EC9300 OLED.

That sealed RGB OLED's fate in TVs right there: as Samsung's exquisitely expensive technology, essentially the same as used for phone screens, and probably actually costing a good third of its $15k launch price to produce, couldn't even steal the shootout from an early version of LG's cost-scalable tech, there was no point in pursuing it any further.

About 1,000 were made and now it's a collector's item, although, like all large and bulky collector's items, worth only a fraction of its launch price.

 

[Micolash]

^ Interesting that the WOLED beat the RGB OLED that year. Do you know if attendees at that event noticed any difference?

 

[gmarceau]

I was at the shootout that year. Actually the calibrators had picked the Samsung OLED ahead of the LG if I recall correctly. I think the 500m Kuro they had in comparison was still better, but that rbg OLED had a real plasma look to it, very nice set. It wouldn’t hold a candle to 2019 sets though.

 

[Wizziwig]

It wouldn’t hold a candle to 2019 sets though.

Depends on your metric.

Thanks to 240Hz refresh, it could resolve full 1080 lines of motion resolution - something no retail LG OLED panel has been able to achieve to date.
Supported active shutter 3D without any crosstalk (especially off-angle) of passive solutions. Also used this (and headphones in the glasses) to allow multiple viewers to simultaneously watch different full-screen 2D content.

 

[gmarceau]

Fair enough...I was thinking more near black and HDR performance. I remember waiting for D-Nice to finally upgrade his Kuros - I think it happened with the C7 and that’s when I started giving these sets an honest look. To me, HDR is the bigger improvement instead of 0 mill which I thought would be such a game changer, but it wasn’t that big a deal when I started comparing content on my OLED to the 500m.

 

[video_analysis]

Next to an 500M (especially if tweaked), 0 mll is definitely not as impactful. It was still pretty huge in comparison to a glowing ZT60 in my case. And 2016 was also a banner year.

 

[CHASLS2]

No money in OLED ted.

 

[RWetmore]

I was at the shootout that year. Actually the calibrators had picked the Samsung OLED ahead of the LG if I recall correctly. I think the 500m Kuro they had in comparison was still better, but that rbg OLED had a real plasma look to it

That's what most who have owned the Samsung OLED have said, i.e. that color-wise it had a plasma look (that uncanny natural or organic look to the colors). Presumably this was due to the native RGB pixel structure like plasma, which is ideal, and for color seems to consistently produce the best, most natural looking, results.

 

[RWetmore]

Next to an 500M (especially if tweaked), 0 mll is definitely not as impactful. It was still pretty huge in comparison to a glowing ZT60 in my case. And 2016 was also a banner year.

Once below about 0.0001 fL. I would think -- with any content on the screen at least -- there would be essentially no noticeable difference than 0 fL., even in a dark room. But maybe not. I understand the tweaked last gen KUROs could get below 0.0001 fL. I think the best the ZT60 could do was about 0.001 fL. or maybe slightly less.