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Samsung Electronics is expected to launch its 9000 series LED TVs in the US by the end of 2009 after its 8500 series LED TVs hit US store shelves in September, according to industry sources.


The 9000 series will feature direct-type LED backlighting in an ultra-thin form factor, the sources said.


The company has recently unveiled the edge-type LED-backlit 8500 series, which will be available in the US market in September. The 8500 series will come in two sizes, 46- and 55-inch, and feature 240Hz technology, 7,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, and 2ms response time. Prices of the 46- and 55-inch models will be US$3,599.99 and US$4,499.99 respectively, the company said.


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Prices of the 46- and 55-inch models will be US$3,599.99 and US$4,499.99
 

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Samsung Electronics is expected to launch its 9000 series LED TVs in the US by the end of 2009 after its 8500 series LED TVs hit US store shelves in September, according to industry sources.


The 9000 series will feature direct-type LED backlighting in an ultra-thin form factor, the sources said.


The company has recently unveiled the edge-type LED-backlit 8500 series, which will be available in the US market in September. The 8500 series will come in two sizes, 46- and 55-inch, and feature 240Hz technology, 7,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, and 2ms response time. Prices of the 46- and 55-inch models will be US$3,599.99 and US$4,499.99 respectively, the company said.


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Samsung again is doing its best to confuse consumers to keep the wide profit margins of the edge-lit LEDs displays. Apparently, they have banned from speaking "local dimming" so they thought up a new humorous term "direct-type".

I need to go research the difference between marketing and propaganda, as they both look the same!


The LG 90 LED looks like an excellent display for considerably less.
 

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Samsung again is doing its best to confuse consumers to keep the wide profit margins of the edge-lit LEDs displays. Apparently, they have banned from speaking "local dimming" so they thought up a new humorous term "direct-type".

I need to go research the difference between marketing and propaganda, as they both look the same!


The LG 90 LED looks like an excellent display for considerably less.
the real news in this announcement, and many won't find it humoruos at at all, is that the samsung 8500 is EDGE-MOUNTED LED, not backmounted LED arrays, AND considering other announcments and specs for the forthcoming 8500 it is ALSO LOCAL DIMMING, a tech that was mentioned in tech papers etc last year iirc.


NEXT, the 9000 is being touted here as "DIRECT-TYPE" LED as another, shorter, more direct if you will, way of saying back-mounted LED arrays, and most certainlhy will be local-dimming.


and yes, samsung still continues to bend the marketing language to fit its own cause.


btw here's the link to that story http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090814PD209.html


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the real news in this announcement, and many won't find it humoruos at at all, is that the samsung 8500 is EDGE-MOUNTED LED, not backmounted LED arrays, AND considering other announcments and specs for the forthcoming 8500 it is ALSO LOCAL DIMMING, a tech that was mentioned in tech papers etc last year iirc.


NEXT, the 9000 is being touted here as "DIRECT-TYPE" LED as another, shorter, more direct if you will, way of saying back-mounted LED arrays, and most certainlhy will be local-dimming.


and yes, samsung still continues to bend the marketing language to fit its own cause.


btw here's the link to that story http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090814PD209.html


TVbc

This one article that keeps being repeated doesn't make sense, how can it be edge lit and local dimming????? I think, like I said before, this is an error.


Show me any other article that says this is edge lit.
 

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Another miss informed member... Its the B8500 thats msrp matches the so called b9000..

The b8000 is edge lit while the b8500 is true BLU led w/ Local dimming.. I was asked to leave star power since the dummy argued w/ me and told me he has been selling tv's for 12 years and the b8000 was fully backlight by leds w/ LD.(this is where they sell $70,000 panny plasmas about 15' screen size pro atheletes shop there etc.) I told him he was wrong and the b8500 is sammys new LED set that has local dimming for 2009..


A manager called me next day apologizing and said they need to send their sales guys to samsung tech classses.. I was right which I knew I was anyways point is not every one is 100% sure about what they are talking about or have been told..Helps to have samsung reps on speed dial
 

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Another miss informed member... Its the B8500 thats msrp matches the so called b9000..

The b8000 is edge lit while the b8500 is true BLU led w/ Local dimming.. I was asked to leave star power since the dummy argued w/ me and told me he has been selling tv's for 12 years and the b8000 was fully backlight by leds w/ LD.(this is where they sell $70,000 panny plasmas about 15' screen size pro atheletes shop there etc.) I told him he was wrong and the b8500 is sammys new LED set that has local dimming for 2009..


A manager called me next day apologizing and said they need to send their sales guys to samsung tech classses.. I was right which I knew I was anyways point is not every one is 100% sure about what they are talking about or have been told..Helps to have samsung reps on speed dial


Thanks Paul this is going on every where, one little article against 20 others and people go crazy....LOL
 

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Very true well atleast we both know whats going on fvbounty



What gets me is that the supposedly newer LED models are supposed to be thinner then the 1.6" b8500(thats thin enough for me LG) well the thinner the worse screen uniformity you have is what I have experienced with edge lit leds. Look at the a950 its Thick like the Sony xbr8 compared to sonys zx1 and Sammys 6000,7000 etc. They all suffer from uneven screen uniform. yes I know edge lit vs. LED LD but will depth hurt the tv instead of help it is my question.. will there be enough room for the light to disperse evenly w/no hot spots etc.??


I have Samsungs spec sheet just cant find link again.. Its the official 2 page spec sheet
 

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Very true well atleast we both know whats going on fvbounty



What gets me is that the supposedly newer LED models are supposed to be thinner then the 1.6" b8500(thats thin enough for me LG) well the thinner the worse screen uniformity you have is what I have experienced with edge lit leds. Look at the a950 its Thick like the Sony xbr8 compared to sonys zx1 and Sammys 6000,7000 etc. They all suffer from uneven screen uniform. yes I know edge lit vs. LED LD but will depth hurt the tv instead of help it is my question.. will there be enough room for the light to disperse evenly w/no hot spots etc.??


I have Samsungs spec sheet just cant find link again.. Its the official 2 page spec sheet

Hopefully by this time next month we should have some of these question answered, at least on the Samsung side, I really don't have a clue on when the LG93/95 are supposed to be out?
 

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So 8500 not a true successor to the A950? will there be a significant difference between edge-mounted local dimming compared to back-mounted?

The 8500 is the successor to the 950 and it is a local dimming set just like the 950, now how they made it thinner we will have to wait on that one....
 

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This one article that keeps being repeated doesn't make sense, how can it be edge lit and local dimming????? I think, like I said before, this is an error.


Show me any other article that says this is edge lit.

it is now possible to have both edge led and local dimming,and that should be the difference between B8500 and b9000
 

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it is now possible to have both edge led and local dimming,and that should be the difference between B8500 and b9000

Do you mean that the 9000 will have both edge lit and local dimming and the 8500 is just local dimming?
 

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Could someone with pity on us poor newbie's answer one question definitively:

1. Is the new Samsung B8500 edge-lit or is it back-lit?


I have read and re-read the above and I'm not clear on the matter. Thank you very much.


2. Is it possible to have an edge-lit TV that uses local dimming?
 

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I wonder how much the 9,000 series is going to retail for considering the high price tag of the 8500 series already.


I'm guessing around $4600 for the 46 inch model and $5500 for the 55 inch model. $100 per inch of screen real estate.
 

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here is samsung's official introduction and detailed specs.

this is NOT EDGE TYPE LED!

I started this thread, but i guess The digitims information is NOT correct as always.

and b9000 models will have seperate media box with WHDI wireless technology.





July 30, 2009 09:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time

Samsung Introduces Stylish New LED HDTV That Delivers Excellent Picture Quality, Connectivity and Interactive Features

Joining Samsung’s Award-winning LED TV Line, 8500 Series Offers Consumers Supreme HD Experience


RIDGEFIELD PARK, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Samsung Electronics America, Inc., a market leader and award-winning innovator in consumer electronics, today unveiled the flagship model of its expanded LED HDTV lineup with the all-new 8500 Series. The new HDTVs combine the award-winning picture quality and thinness of Samsung’s previous LED HDTVs, with the latest networking and interactive features, to provide an ideal option to all TV connoisseurs.


“For consumers who are looking for the ultimate HD centerpiece and high-level performance in their home theater, the Samsung 8500 Series delivers break-through quality and design,” said John Revie, senior vice president of Visual Display Marketing, Samsung Electronics America. “The 8500 Series underscores Samsung’s dedication to providing a full range of HDTVs that not only achieve the highest levels of picture quality, but also provide unique and immersive entertainment experiences through our [email protected]™ suite.”


Samsung 8500 LED HDTV Series Pricing and Availability


Price: 46-inch class: $3,599.99 / 55-inch class: $4,499.99

Availability: September 2009

Picture Quality and Control


With Samsung’s innovative use of white LEDs as a backlight source, the 8500 Series is capable of a stunning 7,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio for extreme detail and image depth. Its Wide Color Enhancer Pro ensures that colors are consistently vibrant, while Samsung’s Ultra Clear Panel works to improve image clarity and brightness regardless of a room’s ambient lighting. The 8500 Series is also compliant with the latest Energy Star® v3.0 ratings, and includes an optimized energy savings mode that adjusts the backlight and picture quality, without sacrificing the overall viewing experience. Additionally, its “Natural” mode optimizes picture settings to model the brightness advantage of LCD displays and the cinema-like richness of plasma displays with any content.


The 8500 Series incorporates an ultra-quick 2ms panel response time, combined with Samsung’s latest version of its Auto Motion Plus™ frame interpolation technology that has a true 240Hz refresh rate to significantly improve playback of fast-paced content. Going beyond the three standard Auto Motion Plus™ presets, users can also separately adjust the levels of judder and motion blur reduction for superior picture control.


Connectivity and Content


The new 8500 Series features Samsung’s [email protected]™ suite, allowing users to access content from more sources than ever before. The [email protected] - Content Service, developed in association with Yahoo!, provides onscreen access to popular web-based content from Yahoo! (Flickr, Video, News, Weather, and Finance), USA Today (Sports), Twitter, YouTube, and others. The widgets-based interface and scrollbar are activated with the push of a button, and run along the bottom of the screen for easy browsing of the latest programs and content available.


Even after purchase, consumers will be able to use a growing library of widgets, as the widget development kit is available for other content providers to develop new offerings. Samsung’s [email protected]™ suite provides wired and wireless DLNA compatibility to enjoy photos, music and videos from a networked PC right on the television. Pre-loaded photos, artwork, games, and recipes are also included for entertaining, and two USB 2.0 connections can be used for playing a plethora of video, photo, and audio files from portable devices, including external hard memory.


Designed to Stand Out


Measuring at just 1.6 inches deep and featuring Samsung’s Touch of Color™ (ToC™) bezel, the 8500 Series provides consumers with style and flexibility in an HDTV. Additionally, both the 46-inch and 55-inch models come with a built-in tuner and an array of multimedia connections. Samsung’s innovative, ultra-slim wall-mount solution (sold separately) makes installation akin to hanging a picture frame, by reducing the gap between the TV and the wall to a mere 0.6 inches – a major improvement over traditional mounting systems.


Samsung Electronics America’s press releases, video content and product images are available at www.samsung.com/newsroom .


Specifications



8500 Series LED HDTV


Screen Sizes 54.6-inch / 45.9-inch


Resolution Full HD 1080p


Design Touch of Color™ (ToC™) with Charcoal accents

Crystal neck swivel stand

Compatible with ultra-slim wall-mount solution (sold separately)


Video 7,000,000:1 contrast ratio

2ms response time

Auto Motion Plus™ 240Hz frame interpolation with separate blur and judder adjustments

Ultra Clear Panel

Wide Color Enhancer Pro


Audio Down-firing speakers with integrated woofer

15-watts x 2 (55-inch class)

10-watts x 2 (46-inch class)

SRS TruSurround HD™


Features

[email protected]




[email protected] - Content Service with Yahoo! Widget Engine

Content Library ™

(2GB flash memory)

USB 2.0 Movie with MPEG4, DivX, MP3, JPEG decoders

DLNA-CERTIFIED™ for wired / wireless access (USB dongle for wireless sold separately)




Natural Mode

Energy Star® v3.0 compliant

Built-in ATSC/Clear QAM digital tuner

Picture-in-Picture

Local Dimming


A/V

Connections

4 HDMI (HDMI-CEC) version 1.3 inputs (side)

1 component input (rear)

2 USB 2.0 inputs (side)

1 Ethernet connection (rear)

1 optical audio output (side)

1 PC input (rear)



Estimated Selling Price 54.6-inch (UN55B8500): $4,499.99

45.9-inch (UN46B8500): $3,599.99


Availability August 2009



*Subject to change without notice.


About Samsung Electronics America, Inc.


Headquartered in Ridgefield Park, NJ, Samsung Electronics America, Inc. (SEA), a wholly owned subsidiary of Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., markets a broad range of award-winning, digital consumer electronics and home appliance products, including HDTVs, home theater systems, MP3 players, digital imaging products, refrigerators and washing machines. A recognized innovation leader in consumer electronics design and technology, Samsung is the HDTV market leader in the U.S. Please visit www.samsung.com for more information.
 
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