[ace5000]

I am getting a bit sick of dealings with projectors...


I've gone from a Infocus X1, and then to a 4805 and loved both of them. Since the bulb went out on the 4805, I have had an Optoma HD65 and a Mit 1600 and returned both of them for different reasons. Both not up to par.


My thinking is now going towards a MIT 73" RP and giving up. I need your comments please!


Thanks.

 

[Jim McC]

No one here is going to tell you to go back to a TV. But if that will make you happy, go for it.

 

[ace5000]

Thanks Jim for speaking for EVERYONE - in a most informative manner I may ad... Did I say it would make me happy to go back to a TV? NO, I did not - you helpful guy you...Your valued, intelligent input will always be APPRECIATED... PS Jim, is that an example of how you got to 2,890 posts?

 

[Trav2003]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ace5000 /forum/post/15520707


Thanks Jim for speaking for EVERYONE - in a most informative manner I may ad... Did I say it would make me happy to go back to a TV? NO, I did not - you helpful guy you...Your valued, intelligent input will always be APPRECIATED... PS Jim, is that an example of how you got to 2,890 posts?

I think he means posting this question in the projector forum is going to yield you results that are skewed toward projectors. Most of us in this forum are here because we like/have/or want a projector. If you post this in the RPTV or TV forum I'm sure you'll get different answers.


If you want to rationalize purchasing a projector, post in this forum. If you want to be convinced to go back, post in an RPTV or TV forum. Each forum will give you exactly what you want to hear.

 

[ace5000]

I WAS SAYING - THERE IS NO REASON for RUDENESS in this forum.

 

[gsRt5]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ace5000 /forum/post/15520928


I WAS SAYING - THERE IS NO REASON for RUDENESS in this forum.

I saw nothing rude in his post and it made sense to me.

 

[Rick471]

I say go back to your 73". 1080p at 106" isnt all its cracked up to be.

 

[42Plasmaman]

Ever since I stepped up to a FP, I rarely watch movies on my 60" RPTV.

My RPTV just can't compete with my 100" of FP at 1080p Blu-ray/HD DVD PQ.

The FP provides movie like experience that a RPTV never will IMO.


Also keep in mind that a RPTV takes up some decent real estate(bulky) width and length wise in a room.


1. What were the issues you had with the projectors and what type/brand/size screen were you using?


2. Another thing to consider is will the FP / RPTV be used for everyday viewing of TV programs or just movies?


3. Was the FP in a light controlled environment?

 

[ace5000]

Thanks Rick for a real post in response to my question. Then I guess not EVERYONE here would not send me packing to the RP forum. However, I never had a 73" TV, I've had one kind of front projector or another (as indicated) for close to 10 years.


I'm just so sick of all types repairs, bulbs, rainbows, etc. I thought perhaps someone else on the board may be able to shed some light on this issue which is bothering me.

 

[ace5000]

I have always watched full time TV and movies on my projectors with low ambient light and has worked for the most part. Not to mention having the best place in town to watch a special event. This is why I am torn. I am thinking a 73" may provide a "good enough" experience with with less trouble. Thanks.

 

[ace5000]

"I say go back to your 73". 1080p at 106" isnt all its cracked up to be.

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Would you care to elaborate on this? I am truly interested as that is my other option. But probably around 98 ish"

 

[Jim McC]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ace5000 /forum/post/15520707


Thanks Jim for speaking for EVERYONE - in a most informative manner I may ad... Did I say it would make me happy to go back to a TV? NO, I did not - you helpful guy you...Your valued, intelligent input will always be APPRECIATED... PS Jim, is that an example of how you got to 2,890 posts?

WOW!! You sure did assume a lot from my response. I was not being rude, but you sure were. Maybe you should "give up" and get a TV before you really get mad. And by the way, you spelled "add" wrong.

 

[lalakersfan34]



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Originally Posted by gsRt5 /forum/post/15521171


I saw nothing rude in his post and it made sense to me.

+1

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick471 /forum/post/15521452


I say go back to your 73". 1080p at 106" isnt all its cracked up to be.

This I believe is called sarcasm

.


Now on to being serious...


OP, if you still have one of your PJ's, you might want to try setting it up in such a way that you are viewing a 73" image. That will get you used to the idea of having a 73" RPTV, and you'll be able to find out for yourself whether or not the size compromise is doable. Incidentally, I'm using a Mitsubishi HC3000 with a 73" screen and I love that screen size. Of course, my room is 11'x10', and my viewing distance is just 7'. Anyway, if you no longer have any PJ's, my idea won't work. Otherwise, it's best to gauge for yourself whether the smaller screen would be ok. Just keep in mind that RPTV's aren't exactly devoid of issues themselves, though they are probably less likely to have problems than front projectors.

 

[d james]

Hmm, you could always go with a company like epson which will next day air you a refurbed unit if there is a problem. Issues aren't much of a hassle then in that regard. If you get the right pj, other problems such as light issues, contrast ratios, and picture quality, go away. Personally I wouldn't go back to a tv, the experience just isn't the same and its not fun like a pj is.


Why did you get rid of the optoma and mits? Was there problems ith the units or were they not as nice as you expected? If you get a more expensive unit, you might be more satisfied.

Can you elaborate more on the issues you are having with pjs, or reasons why you want to switch?

 

[mjg100]



Quote:
Originally Posted by gsRt5 /forum/post/15521171


I saw nothing rude in his post and it made sense to me.

I agree. The OP was the rude one. Sorry you did not get the answer that you wanted.

 

[shawntmartin]

The HC1600 was too many rainbows. He stated that he almost got burned on an HD65 deal but I dont know what the problem was with the HD65 itself. This is just info I saw inother posts.

 

[42Plasmaman]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ace5000 /forum/post/15521524



I'm just so sick of all types repairs, bulbs, rainbows, etc.

A RPTV can also be exposed to all these concerns.

A RPTV is just a projector with a built in screen & enclosure.


Actually, you can add two more possible issues that can arise, screen bowing and picture projection not quite centered/level.

The larger RPTV seem to have these issues more as these plastic frames around the screen are not as ridged and can warp easily due to temperature changes or even when carrying them depending on the thickness of the frame material.

You can just hope/gamble that QC was on the ball when they made your specific RPTV and they centered the picture close to perfect instead of within tolerance(+/- ?? deviation from perfect) & you have no bowing on the screen. Unless you check your RPTV at the store out of the box, these issues can not be found until you unbox it and view it in your home.

 

[ace5000]

I've got a Mit 1600 here (going back tomorrow for RBE) down to a 73" to simulate a RP size screen. Not too bad for the NFL game today... For movies however, I could see there is not the WOW effect of a larger size... this is a tough decision, which is the reason for this inquiry.


Thank you for any constructive comments contributed to this thread. To the rest of you - please eat some fresh "dingle berries" for wasting my time and patience by interjecting your worthless BS.

 

[Spelvin]

Ace, here is my $0.02... I ran a 4805 for 3 years and just upgraded to a PLV-1080HD. the 4805 was on a 76" screen and I upped it to a 100" for the 1080HD. My room is 12X13 and the 4805 was enjoyable but the 1080HD is truly captivating. Both my wife and I saw rainbows on the 4805, so the 3 LCD 1080HD is much easier for us both to watch, there is much less eye strain for us with it as well. I am using all the same source material with the 1080 as I did with the 4805 which is mostly Hulu, Divx rips and standard def DVDs.


As to your question, I guess I just don't see what advantage you actually get to a rear projection set that you would not have with the projector other than ambient light viewing, though if you have been using one this long then I am sure you are over the issues with that.


I can understand how the 4805 can spoil a person, easy setup and it generally just works. How exactly did the HD65 and mits fail to do that the 4805 was able to and or how did they disappoint you?

 

[mjg100]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ace5000 /forum/post/15526262


I've got a Mit 1600 here (going back tomorrow for RBE) down to a 73" to simulate a RP size screen. Not too bad for the NFL game today... For movies however, I could see there is not the WOW effect of a larger size... this is a tough decision, which is the reason for this inquiry.


Thank you for any constructive comments contributed to this thread. To the rest of you - please eat some fresh "dingle berries" for wasting my time and patience by interjecting your worthless BS.

You can't talk too much about the bulb issue with front projection since you are looking at rear projection as an alternative since they use bulbs also. Now that leaves you with reliability. That is one of the reasons that I go for the older high end 720p projectors. The build quality is so much higher. An Optoma HD65 weighs 4 pounds, now compare that to a Marantz 12S4 that weighs 28.6 pounds. If I was you I would stay with front projection, but I would buy a better projector. Something a little higher on the food chain. Right now I would look at an Epson 6500UB. Epson has a good warranty, good service and 24 hour replacement. The 6500UB has a 4,000 lamp also. I would stay away from the cheaply made projectors and if you are using it as your main viewing device I would stay away from organic panel LCD's. In other words any 720p LCD projector.