Sanyo XP21N owners...please help

I know buyers remorse is a common problem.


Do you watch much HDTV? When NOT watching HDTV do DVD's constitute 60% or more of your viewing?


If the answer to either or both of those is yes, *I'D* keep the PLV-60.



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I own a 21N and I am very happy with it. Let me qualify that: I own a 21n with a quadscan... The internal scaler of the 21n is not very good. Without the quadscan, the picture does look grainy. The colors are magnificent and the blacks are pretty black.


It the scaler bucko!


Methinks the PLV-60 probably has the same weakness. The laments I am reading sound like my lament before the Qscan. So... If you want a Sanyo LCD, Plunk down the add'l dough for a scaler.


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I have an XP21n.

I could not be happier!

Of course ther are minor gripes, but nothing worth mentioning again really.


I use a Quadscan and the image is great, even for NTSC.

I think the point above is interesting- that the graininess is potentially induced by the internal scaler.

As the PLV-60 offers more DVD Resoltuion, it makes sense that the scaler could introduce more graininess (at least it makes some sense to me).


Look, unless your viewing is more than 50% HDTV I suggest the XP21. Even if you watch many DVD's I would still get the XP21 - I think there is no substiture for raw brightness, and the MLA is good too.


As mentioned, DVD is 480 lines right now, so I don;t really care whether I watch it carved in a 576 pixel high section or a 768, both are more than the original


dg


Please get a Scaler to use with it- a quadscan for under $1k will make you smile.

I'm using a PLV-60 with a Radeon HTPC at 1360x768 72Hz and a Dish 6000. Both are connected via the RGBHV input via a switcher.


DVD images are excellent so are HDTV images. If you plan to use a Dish 6000 note that it displays 4x3 material only in the 4x3 section of the 16x9 window (to get full 4x3 you must put it in non-HDTV mode and I assume connect it via S-Video - I haven't tried this).


I have not seen the XP21N so I can't comment on the tradeoff between brightness and resolution. Given the beauty of HDTV images on the PLV-60, the great upscaling provided by the radeon and the ability to use the full PLV-60 resolution for general PC display, IMHO it provides advantages that mitigate its lower light output (1300 real lumens is still pretty bright, i.e. its better than a calibrated G15 with a panamorph).


One other item that has not been discussed anywhere is the difference in the bulbs between the PLV-60 and the XP21N. The PLV-60 uses a 250w NSH bulb; the XP21N uses a 200w UHP bulb. It's not clear why Sanyo made this change and why the light ouput is so different. The non-MLA XP18N has an output of 2000 lumens so MLA only explains part of the difference. I'm guessing that Sanyo chose a different bulb at least partly to improve the color gamut of the PLV-60 since they new it would be used for HT. Would anyone that has carefully compared both units care to comment? I can say that the PLV-60 reproduces the Displaymate color shading tests quite well.

As for teh bulb difference.

Your thoughts on color are interesting, but I think they are optimistic thoughts.


My personal, pessimistic thoughts, are that they can put out a PLV-60 now with the 1300 lumens, still get tons of customers, then roll out a higher output model in a few months once initial demand dies down, and make money all over again.


Jaron- congrats on your new toys!

Not much to worry about here, pretty plug and play.

I knocked the Blue down a tick or two, on the Sanyo, knowcked the brightness down 5 or 6 ticks on the Quadscan, and was off. With a Greyhawk this may not be necessary.


Make sure your ouput resoltuion on the Quadscan is XGA, thats pretty much it.


When you get everything e-mail me if you have any questions or problems and I will tell you what I can.

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Personally, I have been so busy I still have not AVIA calibrated the DVD player, and everything still looks peachy great.


Consider a Whisperflow hushbox maybe. I have not gotten one yet, but it seems wel worht the investment to protect our expensive projectors.

I am having very positive intiial results with an industrial power conditioner, but I want to make sure it is really helping as much as I think before I start posting specifically.


DG