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Is there any program that we can use to schedule a replaytv to record a show from the internet?

I always see something while reading the morning paper that i wish i could record. Myreplaytv.com is not the answer.

Any help would be greatly appriaciated.


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I have DvArchive 3.1 but i am not a techie. I have never seen detailed step by step walkthrus to accomplish this. I tried to set it up but have always failed.

Do you have detailed instructions?
This is how I do it in OS X


1) Fire up DVA

2) Choose the DVA menu in the top toolbar

3) Choose the Web Server button

4) Check the box, Enable Web Server

5) Determine what your public IP address is ( http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ )

6) Forward a public port to private port 8080

7) Go to your Web browser and type in your IP address and the port (i.e. 88.123.345.5:29005)


And whammo blammo, you have External Web access.


The other more simple (but irritating) way is to sign your Replay up at www.myreplaytv.com. There is a longish blackout period, so you can't do a last minute record this way.
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Another good solution if you don't want to or can't run a web server from your home is to use a service like logmein.com or gotomypc.com. This will allow you to access your PC from any computer connected to the internet. You can then fire up DVArchive and schedule the recording. I do this all the time and it works great. Much more secure than running a web server, doesn't require a static IP, and provides many other benefits associated with remote access.
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Another good solution if you don't want to or can't run a web server from your home is to use a service like logmein.com or gotomypc.com. This will allow you to access your PC from any computer connected to the internet. You can then fire up DVArchive and schedule the recording. I do this all the time and it works great. Much more secure than running a web server, doesn't require a static IP, and provides many other benefits associated with remote access.
You can also use Remote Desktop for this if you are running XP Pro. Otherwise, UltraVNC works well also. However, I would say that running any of the above solutions, which allow full control over the host PC, is actually far *less* secure than just running a web server on your PC (provided the web server is well designed and password protected or even SSL). Also, you don't need a static IP for any of this. There is no shortage of free dynamic DNS providers out there that allow you to map a dynIP to a CNAME. I use and recommend No-IP.com.
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of course requires you leaving a compy on
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However, I would say that running any of the above solutions, which allow full control over the host PC, is actually far *less* secure than just running a web server on your PC (provided the web server is well designed and password protected or even SSL).
I think the difference between something like gotomypc.com and something like remote desktop is that with gotomypc, all of the ports on my computer are closed/stealthed to the outside world. If someone is scanning blocks of IP addresses looking for an open port, they will get no response from my IP so will not have the opertunity to try and hack into my system. If I am running a web server or a remote controll application like VNC I have to leave at least one port open which will show up to someone scanning my subnet. No matter how secure I think I am, once the hacker knows I am there they have a chance of getting in. An old addage says anonymity is your best defens on the internet.
Personally I prefer the solution which does not require a computer to be permanently on and internet accessible. I open up 1 non-standard port for each RTV and have the router port forward to port 80 of each respective RTV on the LAN. Then you can access the RTVs via the WAN/internet directly without having to go through a web server and having to keep a PC on all the time. Then you can use your favorite 3rd party application (or your own home-brewed one) for remote scheduling, to-do schedule generation, etc. by using WAN IP + ports you are forwarding. I've had the RTVs internet accessible in this manner for years now without any harm done. You can even use DVArchive to access them too if you wish: just enable "Ignore RTV IP Configuration Messages" under the Server tab of Properties and then use File->Open DVR to manually specify the WAN IP + port.
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Personally I prefer the solution which does not require a computer to be permanently on and internet accessible. I open up 1 non-standard port for each RTV and have the router port forward to port 80 of each respective RTV on the LAN. Then you can access the RTVs via the WAN/internet directly without having to go through a web server and having to keep a PC on all the time. Then you can use your favorite 3rd party application (or your own home-brewed one) for remote scheduling, to-do schedule generation, etc. by using WAN IP + ports you are forwarding. I've had the RTVs internet accessible in this manner for years now without any harm done. You can even use DVArchive to access them too if you wish: just enable "Ignore RTV IP Configuration Messages" under the Server tab of Properties and then use File->Open DVR to manually specify the WAN IP + port.
Sounds like you've been lucky so far. Anytime somebody discovers your WAN IP and port number, they can do whatever they desire to your ReplayTVs, including deleting shows, scheduling shows, etc. Or do you have any login protection anywhere in that line?

(And it's been public knowledge that many hits to that discovered WAN IP and port could crash your ReplayTV. All it would take is a port scanner to discover.)
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If it was an actual computer opened up to the WAN I'd feel a lot more nervous (even with password protection) compared to ReplayTVs. Most likely any would-be hackers wouldn't recognize a WAN IP+port is actually a ReplayTV compared to a computer anyway so potential damage is very limited in my estimation. Note also that anyone using IVS is opening themselves up to some potential trouble too as far as crashing the ReplayTV, so in that respect it's a similar kind of risk (of course there's a lot less damage can be done via IVS port compared to port 80 if the attacker realizes this is an RTV). I've been doing this for 4 years without any problems on multiple RTVs, though perhaps I just jinxed myself. I don't dispute there are risks in doing this, but there are risks opening up anything to the internet and I'm willing to live with these - the upside is far greater than the downside.
Guys,

You talk about opening ports from private to public.

I am on a linksys router. I know how to get into the settings, but changing ports and enabling udp ports and forwarding ports in jibberish to me.

I really need step by step directions to configure my router and dvarchinve.

If anyone has the time and patience to do a step by step detailed instruction manual. i would apprieciate it.

Also, you guys mention about entering my ip address in dvarchive, which ip address do i put in, the one registered from the router or the one from that web site "whatsmyipaddress"?


Se what i mean about a detailed step by step, i think this forum needs this setup manual and then they could sticky it for all newcomers who have the same situation i do.


Thanks for all you help gentlman,

Keith
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kanstead



First use File->DVA Properties to go to the Web Server Tab. Then

1. Place a check in the box ENABLE WEB SERVER

2. Select a port (default is 8080)

3. Select a name and password

4. Choose any of the other options that you wish--or don't wish.


Now, note what is displayed at the bottom of the page:

Webserver URL is [example] http://192.168.1.100:8080 (if the default is selected). Also note that this is for display on your LAN only-- it will not work over the internet.


To work over the internet, two additional things must be done. First, Port Fowarding must be setup on your router to forward port 8080 (if you selected the default-otherwise, change accordingly) to the IP on the computer where DVA resides (not to the RTV). The IP where your DVA resides is displayed at the bottom of the page, as described above. So port 8080 would be forwarded to 192.168.1.100. [LATE NOTE: With Linksys, type 192.168.1.1 in Address Block of web browser, enter nothing for user name, default password is admin-- go to Advanced tab, then Forwarding- in this example, type in 8080 to 8080 forwarded to 192.168.1.100-- be sure to check the enable box at the end of the row--that's it!]


Secondly, you must determine your outside IP address. The easiest way is, from the computer that DVA resides, type http://ipchicken.com/ Yes, it really is IPChicken! This will display your outside IP.


Now, to access DVA, just type this number followed by port number. For example, Http://68.123.456.12:8080


Good luck
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What if the DVA server is behind a WDS bridge?


I tried setting up like you mentioned, but it doesn't work.


In my setup, my main router is 192.168.0.1, my WDS bridge is 192.168.0.4 and the DVA computer is 192.168.0.50.


Do I need to set virtual server settings in both routers? That is, have the WDS set up as you mentioned above and then set up port forwarding from my main router to the WDS bridge?


I guess I can always try.
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Sorry, I know nothing about WDS Bridges-- hopefully someone else can help...
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Sorry, I know nothing about WDS Bridges (see picture) -- hopefully someone else can help...


hehehehe. I prolly shouldn't've done that. hehehehe
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What if the DVA server is behind a WDS bridge?


I tried setting up like you mentioned, but it doesn't work.


In my setup, my main router is 192.168.0.1, my WDS bridge is 192.168.0.4 and the DVA computer is 192.168.0.50.


Do I need to set virtual server settings in both routers? That is, have the WDS set up as you mentioned above and then set up port forwarding from my main router to the WDS bridge?


I guess I can always try.
No, unless you have things incorrectly set up, there us really only one device--the main router--doing NAT routing (thus, port forwarding) in your setup. A correctly set up bridge should have nothing connected to WAN port + DHCP server disabled. Your problem is likely one or more of the following 3 things:


1) You are running a software firewall on the DVA PC. The firewall will block your access unless you configure it otherwise.


2) You are forwarding external port 8080 or 80 to the DVA PC. Many ISPs filter these ports. Choose something uncommon like 8300.


3) You have everything correctly set up but are trying to access it using your WAN IP from the LAN. This won't work unless your router supports loopback. Buffalo doesn't, and I don't think Belkin does either. In that case, you will need to verify access using a computer external to your LAN (i.e. from a neighbor's house, work, etc.).
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No, unless you have things incorrectly set up, there us really only one device--the main router--doing NAT routing (thus, port forwarding) in your setup. Your problem is likely one or more of the following 3 things:

1) You are running a software firewall on the DVA PC. The firewall will block your access unless you configure it otherwise.

2) You are forwarding external port 8080 or 80 to the DVA PC. Many ISPs filter these ports. Choose something uncommon like 8300.

3) You have everything correctly set up but are trying to access it using your WAN IP from the LAN. This won't work unless your router supports loopback. Buffalo doesn't, and I don't think Belkin does either. In that case, you will need to verify access using a computer external to your LAN (i.e. from a neighbor's house, work, etc.).
As usual, you're right. Accessed my setup through anonymizer right now and it worked like a charm. Couldn't get to it from work though. Maybe messing with it now fixed it. I'll have to try on Monday again.


Thanks.
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As usual, you're right. Accessed my setup through anonymizer right now and it worked like a charm. Couldn't get to it from work though. Maybe messing with it now fixed it. I'll have to try on Monday again.


Thanks.
That (proxy) works too. :) I meant to add:


4) If you are testing from work, know that your Internet acess may be restricted such that it still won't work. You may be able to get around this by finding out to which ports outgoing traffic is allowed and using one as your external port in to DVA. The best bets will be 80, 8080, 443, 123, 25, 21, 23, 110, 143, or 119 (all "common" TCP ports that the filter may or may not block).
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