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EDIT: 3/5/2012 for system updates: new 7ch amp, PS3 & cables

EDIT: 4/1/2012 for system update: Now 7.2 - added 2nd PSW - another Paradigm Reference Seismic 110

EDIT: 4/1/2012 replaced pictures with current set-up and moved some historical pictures to my 2nd post

EDIT: 7/3/2012 added 12volt trigger and Pangea power cables to AVR - trigger linked to power up/down amp

EDIT: 12/23/12 switched out Emotiva power cables with Pangea to main power feed to Furman conditioner and Amp.  Switched out stock power cables to 2 powered subwoofers with the Emotiva cables

EDIT 1/4/13: Added universal remote - Harmony 1100

EDIT 5/3/14: added PJ Wolf Cinema SDC10, SI Black diamond power retractable screen 110", replaced Onkyo AVR with Anthem MRX510 and replaced Sony BR player with Oppo 103D.  16 meter Audio Quest Chocolate HDMI to PJ

Main “HT” Equipment

Room Summary:

• Multi-purpose family room

• 18’D x 24’ W x 11.5’H (approx 5K cu. Ft.)

• 3 exterior walls with large windows

• Rear wall has 6’ opening to kitchen and eating area

• Currently running 7.2, wired for 9.2

• Viewing position is approx 13’ from TV - approx 10 - 11' from screen

• Upgraded to in-wall and in-ceiling speakers to help de-emphasize HT look in family room

• Power light blocking shades for all 5 windows plus manual arch light blocking shades.  Ordered add'l light blocking shades for attached rooms for total light blocking later

 

Control: Universal remote - Harmony 1100

Power protection, conditioning and cooling:

• Intermatic Panel Guard (whole house surge protector located at circuit breaker box)

• Furman Elite 15PFi power conditioner

• Niles 12volt trigger (linked between AVR & amplifier)

• Pangea power cables AC-14 (0.6m) X2 to AVR/Niles 12v trigger

• Pangea AC-14SE Signature power cable to Furman 1.5m

• Pangea AC-14 power cable to Arcam Amp 1.5m

• eMotiva X IEC power cable to PSW two 3'

• eMotiva X IEC power cable to PSW one 6'

• Cool Components CP-CC-4WC – 4 fan cooling unit w/ top cover and thermal control switch

• Monster A/V cables (except Wii) and Monster banana plugs

• Transparent Link interconnect audio cables between Amp & AVR & subwoofers

• AVR to PJ HDMI 16 meter Audio Quest Chocolate


Processor/Amp:

• Anthem MRX 510 AVR (2014)    REMOVED:  ONKYO TX-NR3007 – AVR

• Arcam Diva P1000 amplifier - 135w/ch X 7 @ 8ohm (the Atlantic speakers are 6ohm resulting in amp power of approx. 2XX/ch)


Source Components/Peripherals:

• Oppo 103D  in 2014REMOVED to Master bedroom - Sony BDP-S560 Blu ray player

• Apple TV (connected wirelessly to office PC)

• Roku 3 (new 2013/2014)

• PS3 (new 2012 - replaced PS2)

• Wii

• Thorens TD 280MK IV phonograph

• ONKYO DS-A3 iPod dock (can’t get video to work…..)

• ONKYO UP-HT1 HD Radio tuner

• Winegard HD6010 FM antenna (installed in scuttle above family room)

• Upgraded to Comcast xfinity HD cable/DVR

• PC1 – HP Pavilion a1517x tower (home office PC connected to HT via wireless Apple TV (iTunes account #1, pictures, youtube, internet radio, etc.)

• Atlona AT-Air3: a PC to HT wireless broadcast unit (transmits laptop image/audio to HT)

• PC2 – HP Laptop

• Motorola modem

• Linksys router connected to AVR (internet radio, software updates, etc.)


Picture:

• Pioneer Elite PRO 507PU (50” Plasma)

• Wolf Cinema SDC10 projector

• SI Black Diamond 110" screen - power tractable

HT Speakers: (in-wall and in-ceiling)

• Mains: Atlantic Technology IWTS-30 LCR (L&R)

• Centers: 2 Atlantic Technology ICTS-6 LCRs (powering two wired in parallel) and enclosed w/ DynaBoxes by Dynamat – installed two to try and match the output of the IWTS 30 LCRs

• Side Surrounds: Atlantic Technology IWTS-30 SR-P

• Rear Surrounds: Atlantic Technology IWTS-30 SR-P


Subwoofers:

• Paradigm Seismic 110 (850watts RMS, 1,700 peak) X2


A/V Shelving:

• Sanus VF2022 (two tier double column glass shelves rated for 75lb ea)

• Sanus VF2012 (two tier single column glass shelves rated for 50lb ea)

• Added metal base support pole just in case for the AVR weight

• Peerless Adjustable Shelf (rated for 100lbs)


Outdoor Sound System Controlled/Sourced by Main “HT” Equipment

Zone 2 Power & control:

• ONKYO M-282 - 2 channel power amp (100w/ch)

• Aton DLA4 with RF remote – 4 pair impedance matching speaker switch (the remote controls the on/off, mute & volume individually for each pair of outside speakers)


Zone 2 exterior speakers:

• Boston Acoustics Voyager 6 – over garage doors/driveway/basketball area

• Boston Acoustics Voyager 6 – deck

• Boston Acoustics Voyager 6 – patio under deck


Thanks for looking and all comments, suggestions are welcome.


Best,

Dan


PS: Sorry, I do not know how to insert a picture so that it appears in the thread. Please see links picture links below. I will appreciate any help on how to do this. Thanks -


PSS: Thanks for the instructions on copying in the pictures.














On the back table is the home modem, router & laptop. I have 2 cat5 cables running in-wall from the router to the HT equip for the AVR and PS3.







Picture of PSW 1 before adding an amp above it. This little guy is amazing



Main Atlantic Technology in-wall Speaker with out painted grill on. The tweeter & 2 mids are sealed and movable - they are toed in and down toward the listening position - one of the main reasons I choose them for my solution



Atlantic Technology surround speaker with out painted grill on



Two directional center speakers installed in ceiling. I used two to try and match the output of the two mains. I went with in-ceiling so that I could add Non-AT screen and PJ later on.



Second PSW
 
 

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PS: Sorry, I do not know how to insert a picture so that it appears in the thread. Please see links picture links below. I will appreciate any help on how to do this. Thanks

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Main HT Equipment

Room Summary:

Multi-purpose family room

18'D x 24' W x 11.5'H (approx 5K cu. Ft.)

3 exterior walls with large windows

Rear wall has 6' opening to kitchen and eating area

Currently running 7.1, wired for 9.2

Viewing position is approx 12' from TV

Upgraded to in-wall and in-ceiling speakers to help de-emphasize HT look in family room


Power protection, conditioning and cooling:

Intermatic Panel Guard (whole house surge protector located at circuit breaker box)

Furman Elite 15PFi power conditioner

eMotiva X IEC power cable to Furman

Cool Components CP-CC-4WC - 4 fan cooling unit w/ top cover and thermal control switch

Monster A/V cables (except Wii & PS2) and banana plugs


Processor/Amp:

ONKYO TX-NR3007 - AVR (7 HDMI in, 2 HDMI out, 9.2 capable, 2 multi-room zones, network connection, etc)


Source Components/Peripherals:

Sony BDP-S560 Blu ray player

Apple TV (connected wirelessly to office PC)

PS2

Wii

Thorens TD 280MK IV phonograph

ONKYO DS-A3 iPod dock (can't get video to work..)

ONKYO UP-HT1 HD Radio tuner

Winegard HD6010 FM antenna (installed in scuttle above family room)

Comcast HD cable/DVR

PC1 - HP Pavilion a1517x tower (home office PC connected to HT via wireless Apple TV (iTunes account #1, pictures, youtube, internet radio, etc.)

Atlona AT-Air3: a PC to HT wireless broadcast unit (transmits laptop image/audio to HT)

PC2 - HP Laptop

Motorola modem

Linksys router connected to AVR (internet radio, software updates, etc.)


TV:

Pioneer Elite PRO 507PU (50 Plasma)


HT Speakers: (in-wall and in-ceiling)

Mains: Atlantic Technology IWTS-30 LCR (L&R)

Centers: 2 Atlantic Technology ICTS-6 LCRs (powering two wired in parallel) and enclosed w/ DynaBoxes by Dynamat - installed two to try and match the output of the IWTS 30 LCRs

Side Surrounds: Atlantic Technology IWTS-30 SR-P

Rear Surrounds: Atlantic Technology IWTS-30 SR-P


Subwoofer:

Paradigm Seismic 110 (850watts RMS, 1,700 peak)


A/V Shelving:

Sanus VF2022 (two tier double column glass shelves rated for 75lb ea)

Sanus VF2012 (two tier single column glass shelves rated for 50lb ea)

Added metal base support pole just in case for the AVR weight


Outdoor Sound System Controlled/Sourced by Main HT Equipment

Zone 3 Power & control:

ONKYO M-282 - 2 channel power amp (100w/ch)

Aton DLA4 with RF remote - 4 pair impedance matching speaker switch (the remote controls the on/off, mute & volume individually for each pair of outside speakers)


Zone 3 exterior speakers:

Boston Acoustics Voyager 6 - over garage doors/driveway/basketball area

Boston Acoustics Voyager 6 - deck

Boston Acoustics Voyager 6 - patio under deck


Thanks for looking and all comments, suggestions are welcome.


Best,

Dan


PS: Sorry, I do not know how to insert a picture so that it appears in the thread. Please see links picture links below. I will appreciate any help on how to do this. Thanks

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great setup! I think you accomplished what you wanted, it's a very non intrusive setup.


I'm sure others will mention it and I'm not sure if it's always like that but personally, I wouldn't put anything on top of your Onkyo. It needs every square inch of ventilation it can get.


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Thanks for the help on inserting the pictures!


EDIT 4/1/2012 - relocating old photos to track history and placed current photos in first post:


System before adding amplifier, replacing PS2 with PS3 and redistributing components to get the speaker switch off the Onkyo AVR




 

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Jproy13 - I hear you on the Onkyo heat and the placement on the zone 3 speaker switch. I was trying to balance looks, weight and space on the shelves. The only thing I have going for me on the switch is that it only covers 1/2 to 2/3 of the top of the AVR allowing heat to escape.
 

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Jproy13 - I hear you on the Onkyo heat and the placement on the zone 3 speaker switch. I was trying to balance looks, weight and space on the shelves. The only thing I have going for me on the switch is that it only covers 1/2 to 2/3 of the top of the AVR allowing heat to escape.

That is a very nice room!!! Those speakers blend VERY well with the room. Was there a special technique to painting the grilles? I've always wanted to paint grilles of my in-ceiling speakers up in my media-room (Roon B), but don't want to lose any audible quality.


In respect to the cooling, years ago--my first HDMI receiver (Onkyo TX-SR674) used to shut-down when I placed something on top of it or inserted it into an enclosed shelve structure. That's actually how I got the idea for creating a "media closet" in the pantry.....so the Onkyo and the Center Speaker (back then, an Infinity C25) wouldn't have to compete for top-shelf space.


I say all that to say, there are ventilation units like this.


They suck air from your component and push it out the front, allowinig you to stack as many components as you'd like. That could make sure heat damage isn't happening to your Onkyo over time.
 

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Thanks Brolic & Jproy13, appreciate the thoughtful comments.


I actually have that cooling unit with a cover - it is sitting on top of the cable box that is very warm all the time. I needed to create a space between the cable box and small periferals (HD radio unit, Ipod dock and Apple TV). I guess I should take another look at the configuration. It's very tight (especially with wire management) and I can't just close a cabinet door to hide it.


Glad you like the speaker grills painted - it really just took some proper inexpensive tools and patience. I spray painted the grills with a small disposable spray gun kit from Home Depot. The brand is Preval (professional portable sprayer) for less than $20 I think. You actually use regular wall or ceiling house paint (acrylic) and mix it with 50% water. - I used distilled and applied two thin coats. I also used a small compressed can of air to blow out any grill holes that filled with paint.
 

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Very nice setup Dan. I like the clean look of the system with inwalls. Also the equipment rack is something unique, never seen anything like it before. Great stuff!
 

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Thanks Jim and Daman,


Appreciate the kind words. I know it's not as nice as some of the dedicated rooms out there, but it works for us. The somewhat low key approach helps with the WAF.


Working with the glass shelves wasn't without its challenges. Due to the limited space, weight constraints and wire management I had to eliminate a few pieces of equipment such as an Onkyo Integra (before Integra split brands from Onkyo) 6 disc CD player and really cool dual tape deck from the 90s. Of course I had not used the tape deck in years but it still hurt to put it back in the box. The CD player was too deep. The VCR was put back into its box as well. I know - sacrifices we all make
 

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I like your choice of equipment and the room really does look nice but good gravy is that tv up high. How do you not have neck cramps after watching a movie? Not trying to be an ass or anything and hey you work with the room but have you considered a front projector?
 

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pcweber111,


I had the same exact thought as the house was being finished (new Construction). When we first planned for the TV over the fireplace, we thought the TV would be a foot lower. We did not expect the mantel to be so tall. I guess it needed to be to fit the scale of the room. However, the sectional in the room has a natural recline that makes watching TV very comfortable. No neck muscles required to lift ; )


I've had a few people over and they have commented that they thought it was going to be tough to watch at that height and were surprised at how comfortable it was. But yes - you work with what you have.


I do have plans for a PJ and motorized screen, that is the only reason the center speakers are in the ceiling (another compromise). I can't use an AT screen due to ambient light/PQ issues.
 

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I ordered a second Paradigm Reference Seismic 110 sub this week from my AV dealer. It should be here in another week or so. I’m hoping this will balance out the bass in the large room. The single sub literally shakes the whole house when I crank it, but I sometimes feel that I am over driving it for the space and do not want to cause any damage. And the kid in me will admit that my AVR has two sub outs and I had the room wired to handle a second sub in the opposite corner last spring…..As they say in Spinal Tap – “but it goes to 11”


I may also pick up a used or new amp to help take the load off the AVR – I am probably overdriving the speakers with too little power when watching action movies. I’m thinking amps last a long time and are not as subject to new feature upgrades like typical AV gear – so good quality/value is key to me.
 

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Yeah I getcha with the tv thing. As long as it's comfortable that's all that matters.



As for the amp yeah I'd always recommend people invest in a good amp(s). I used an HK amp for a number of years and enjoyed what it brought over the internal amps in my receiver. I only sold it because I wanted to go with seperate amps and needed to make the break with it. It was time to move on lol.


Let us know how the second sub sounds, if anything it should sound smoother because that single sub isn't going to have to pull double duty being accurate while filling the room volume up. Dual subs are another thing I always advocate if you can swing it.
 

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Thanks pcwebder111,


I'm looking forward to getting the new sub as well. Regarding the amp, I have an opportunity to pick up a used 7 channel Arcam amp this weekend.
 

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The upgrade process continues - I purchased a used (mint condition) Arcam Diva P1000 7 channel amplifier over the weekend. This should improve the sound of the Atlantic's and provide better sound quality at low volumes. Hoping this also reduces the heat output on the Onkyo. It was running hot yesterday after being on pretty much all day - it is typically run for only a couple hours at a time max.


I'll hopefully have it integrated into my system some how over the weekend - there is too much weight to add it to an existing shelf. Will post pics once installed with new Transparent link audio cables.


Hoping the 2nd sub arrives this week as well.
 

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Well, it’s been a long weekend without the use of my home theater equipment while rework my system to incorporate a new amp. What a PITA. I’m ready to hook it up now after moving some cables , adding a few new holes and filling another. I also added a unique new shelf to hold the amp as well. I am just waiting for a couple more Transparent cables and short power cable to arrive (hopefully) this week. I’m also still waiting for my new sub as well. Below are a few pictures of my progress.


PS: My wife thinks I am the biggest geek right now

PSS: Thank god for lable makers or I'd be in real trouble rehooking this stuff back up.


Work in process



Almost done



New Shelf
 

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Progress!! I was able to hook up my new (used but new to me) Arcam Diva P1000 amplifier over the weekend. I also decided to finally bite the bullet this weekend and picked up a PS3 (160GB I think) and controller charging dock for my son since I was taking everything a part anyway. Due to the size of the PS3 versus the smaller PS2, I had to move a few pieces of equipment around. I think it came out okay and I was able to employ the advice of a few of you and move the Aton speaker switch off the top of the Onkyo. It now sits on the second from the top shelf under the blu ray player. Unfortunately, to do this I had to extend the speaker wires that were coming from the wall to reach the new height of the speaker switch. The new PS3 sits on the cooling fan over the DVR box – although I do not think the DVR box ever gets hot enough to turn on the fan (thermal switch set at 80 degrees), the DVR always feels warm and used to transfer the heat to the units sitting directly above before the fan was placed there.

I’m still waiting for a few Transparent interconnect cables and the second powered sub –they will be in this week.

Anyway, below are a few pictures of the new amp, PS3 and new overall configuration.


New Amp



PS3



Reworked top section



Overall view of new set-up

 
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