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Originally posted by David777
Huh?
His whites may be getting crushed, but it is not the screen doing it. How can you even suggest such a thing?
Oh yes, I forgot, the only thing that can cause crushed whites is the screen, right? |
I never said such. But taking into account that ANYONE could and would see such manifestations if they were before their eyes, it's not a far stretch to reason that they would indeed compensate for them. But often, it does fall to the PJ owner to decide what looks best & right for himself, not others. Posting a picture does leave one's results and taste up for scrutiny though. My comments seemed justified, but can just as easily be misconstrued, as the previous post seem to indicate
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You don't think it could be the simplest of all things and the one thing that many people do all the time, setting the contrast too high? It's extremely easy to crush whites on digital pjs if not set up properly. It's also more likely that the camera is causing the crushed whites than the screen. |
Both could very well be the case, but I doubt it. I spent the first year of my doing PJ systems featuring 2000+ lumen LCD PJs that REQUIRED high contrast screens, and became quite familiar with them, their properties and peculiarities. I also saw how they affected color correctness and white levels especially. Would that the 20-HD had a Cr ratio as high as a Z2!
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| To the original poster. If you are, in fact, seeing crushed whites like in your picture, try calibrating with either Avia or Video Essentials to get your blacks and whites set correctly. Even the THX Optimizer would be better than nothing. |
Good advice for those who need it. And essential when starting out with a screen surface designed specifically to augment contrast. It's a fact that cannot be disputed or denied by anyone, that ANY HC screen WILL affect the end result in more ways than just enhancing contrast. Why bringing this up causes such distress only serves to highlight how few seem to realize it. I guess the Mfg. have done a good job keeping the negative aspects under wraps. Why, when education would help steer many more to them once informed. Those who buy into the HC genre must use calibration to regain what HC screens take away.
High Gain screens face the same issues, only reversed. It may peeve more than a few to consider something as simple as the DIY solutions we have been working on to level the playing field as being so good at what they do, but that's the breaks. It's not the Mfgs that we do it for anyway. Most others appreciate the motive behind it all. others are simply aghast at the whole idea, or resentful of the attention it's getting.
I care not one whit for the attention, nor any real credit. Yes, I created the concept to help the "Video" end of what I do for my Clients because I was seeing results I knew could be improved upon. By offering the end results to anybody/everybody on this Forum, it was/is still a way of showing appreciation for similar help and assistance sent my way. Plus, that's supposed to be the spirit behind the Forum. How others can twist it around to make it a selfish, self-centered act is pretty incredible, but no more so I guess than what should be expected when so many different people frequent AVS. If my delivery is to blame...., well chalk it up to enthusiasium, and excitement that hard work and effort paid off.
You can't make a Silk Purse out of a Sow's ear, and Screen Shots can't be as good as the ones we are posting without the screen being of no small account.
Peace.
