I love the idea... would be brilliant
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SD not BD is the key ....
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I've posted this a couple of times, and the post has gotten buried in the threads, so I decided to make it a thread. Sorry if you have already read it before:
Regarding combo discs, and twin disc formats, The problem with pressing both the HD and SD version on the single disc for studios is one thing. The date of conclusion. I can see where the studios want to avoid the extra cost of indefinite production of doing this. Studios want a clear winner. So here's the key to the whole mix. (If I understand correctly Toshiba owns the rights to the DVD license) TOSHIBA / supportive studios need to put an end date to SD DVD production. Similar to what is being done to analog TVs right now. And one more thing, the HDA needs to require a start date for ALL SD DVDs to start including a HD layer also wether in Twin Disc or Combo flipper.
For example, First TOSHIBA and the DVD forum could announce that on DEC 31 2009 (date for example) they will discontinue SD DVD production, and no longer license studios to continue using the format. Remember HD DVD was supposed to be the successor to SD DVD.(Keeping in mind the BDA and Sony do not have the right to the DVD title and cannot put it on the Blu disc) And announce that beginning Jan 1 2010 all DVDS will be HD DVD's only. This will give the public a warning of the upcomiing change. This info can be put on the leader of all DVD releases. With the price of HD DVD players coming down the average consumer will be able to pick up a player by that date, no problem. New HD players will be able to play ALL of your SD titles, but Old players will NOT be able to play the new format. Plus other player manufactures can fully get behind the date, further increasing the player selection, and generating lower player prices and selection.
Second. Tosh / SDA needs to put a prior date on when all current studios MUST include a HD layer on all newly pressed discs, (say 10/15/2008)or the license to produce SD Discs will be cancelled (or not renewed). Major studios could be given a earlier date, and Indies could be given a later date in order to gear up. This will also help promote player sales, because all new discs will include the HD layer. This will also resolve the "confusion" that the consumer seems to be having. Specific times and dates.
I think the consumer will see this as normal, and will accept that this is the next generation of DVD technology. Also it would trump Blu at the SD level. Studios will be forced to make a decision. Either Soley support BLU and cancel all new SD production(not gonna happen), or comply and bring the consumer to the next generation of video entertainment. Blu movie will then be pushed to a niche format, just like PSP movies. Game, set, match.
No studio would even remotely consider even slightly risking SD production at this point! IMO, At this point in time, HD needs to entirely forget about the BDA, (it's really not going anywhere as long as HD has the support of UNI, PARA and DW.) and they need to put a full frontal assault on SD DVD. It's also natural for advertising. If Tosh, the DVD forum and those 3 studios got behind a marketing theme like that, you would see the other studios following suit very shortly. The funny part is, in the mean time, the combo discs will still play on PS3s
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Blu discs still don't play on ANY SD player, or HD player!! Niche I say!
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Thoughts??? Or am I missing something?
Regarding combo discs, and twin disc formats, The problem with pressing both the HD and SD version on the single disc for studios is one thing. The date of conclusion. I can see where the studios want to avoid the extra cost of indefinite production of doing this. Studios want a clear winner. So here's the key to the whole mix. (If I understand correctly Toshiba owns the rights to the DVD license) TOSHIBA / supportive studios need to put an end date to SD DVD production. Similar to what is being done to analog TVs right now. And one more thing, the HDA needs to require a start date for ALL SD DVDs to start including a HD layer also wether in Twin Disc or Combo flipper.
For example, First TOSHIBA and the DVD forum could announce that on DEC 31 2009 (date for example) they will discontinue SD DVD production, and no longer license studios to continue using the format. Remember HD DVD was supposed to be the successor to SD DVD.(Keeping in mind the BDA and Sony do not have the right to the DVD title and cannot put it on the Blu disc) And announce that beginning Jan 1 2010 all DVDS will be HD DVD's only. This will give the public a warning of the upcomiing change. This info can be put on the leader of all DVD releases. With the price of HD DVD players coming down the average consumer will be able to pick up a player by that date, no problem. New HD players will be able to play ALL of your SD titles, but Old players will NOT be able to play the new format. Plus other player manufactures can fully get behind the date, further increasing the player selection, and generating lower player prices and selection.
Second. Tosh / SDA needs to put a prior date on when all current studios MUST include a HD layer on all newly pressed discs, (say 10/15/2008)or the license to produce SD Discs will be cancelled (or not renewed). Major studios could be given a earlier date, and Indies could be given a later date in order to gear up. This will also help promote player sales, because all new discs will include the HD layer. This will also resolve the "confusion" that the consumer seems to be having. Specific times and dates.
I think the consumer will see this as normal, and will accept that this is the next generation of DVD technology. Also it would trump Blu at the SD level. Studios will be forced to make a decision. Either Soley support BLU and cancel all new SD production(not gonna happen), or comply and bring the consumer to the next generation of video entertainment. Blu movie will then be pushed to a niche format, just like PSP movies. Game, set, match.
No studio would even remotely consider even slightly risking SD production at this point! IMO, At this point in time, HD needs to entirely forget about the BDA, (it's really not going anywhere as long as HD has the support of UNI, PARA and DW.) and they need to put a full frontal assault on SD DVD. It's also natural for advertising. If Tosh, the DVD forum and those 3 studios got behind a marketing theme like that, you would see the other studios following suit very shortly. The funny part is, in the mean time, the combo discs will still play on PS3s
Thoughts??? Or am I missing something?
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Forcing people to buy new players? Come on man!
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Talk about trumping BD's sleeziness with one swoop.
I'm sick of these posts. Let them run their companies, go on with your lives.
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Talk about trumping BD's sleeziness with one swoop.
I'm sick of these posts. Let them run their companies, go on with your lives.
I don't think on average people felt forced to purchase a DVD player as VCR tapes were phased out. So I'm not sure if it would come across as being forced, as much as moving forward.
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Originally Posted by Blacklac /forum/post/12925095
Forcing people to buy new players? Come on man!![]()
I don't think on average people felt forced to purchase a DVD player as VCR tapes were phased out. So I'm not sure if it would come across as being forced, as much as moving forward.
Grumpy much? If you're sick of these posts don't read them, and certainly don't waste our time useless posts.
Let us share ideas to improve something we care about. Go on with your life.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacklac /forum/post/12925095
Forcing people to buy new players? Come on man!![]()
Talk about trumping BD's sleeziness with one swoop.
I'm sick of these posts. Let them run their companies, go on with your lives.![]()
Grumpy much? If you're sick of these posts don't read them, and certainly don't waste our time useless posts.
Let us share ideas to improve something we care about. Go on with your life.
I'm not trying to argue, the dates I used were for example (as I said). And I wasn't saying SD was going out. I was refering to IF the idea was to work. Yes SD is still very alive.
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I'm not trying to argue, the dates I used were for example (as I said). And I wasn't saying SD was going out. I was refering to IF the idea was to work. Yes SD is still very alive.
It took 7 years for SD-DVDs to out sell VHS and you didn't need a new TV to watch them. With about 25% of household with HDTV and only 1.5 years into HDM, there's still a long long way to go before either format is "successful". Having 2 formats isn't helping things but even if there was only one, we wouldn't be any farther along or maybe not as far because players wouldn't be as cheap and neither would content. I'm amazed at the energy expended agonizing over all this when what you should be doing it watching movies and enjoything them because there really isn't much else anybody here can do. There's still a long way to go - pace yourself.
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And there's no guarantee that either format will enjoy the success of SD-DVD. Movie studios do not want "you" to get content in your hands if at all possible.
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