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Small update:


I was able to finish the final crossover. I discovered I like the light in the garage better for this type of work. But it is June in Florida. So I am glad I am done with these.


Tops:

http://s243.photobucket.com/user/filtor1/media/SEOS%2012%20AE%20TD12M%20Project/IMG_6852_zpsf42e8c3b.jpg.html


Bottoms:

http://s243.photobucket.com/user/filtor1/media/SEOS%2012%20AE%20TD12M%20Project/IMG_6853_zps68773b16.jpg.html


#1

http://s243.photobucket.com/user/filtor1/media/SEOS%2012%20AE%20TD12M%20Project/IMG_6854_zpsfa4782f9.jpg.html


#2

http://s243.photobucket.com/user/filtor1/media/SEOS%2012%20AE%20TD12M%20Project/IMG_6855_zpsc6d4bda9.jpg.html


#3

http://s243.photobucket.com/user/filtor1/media/SEOS%2012%20AE%20TD12M%20Project/IMG_6856_zps863fc78f.jpg.html


Some differences you may notice on crossover #3. This was the last to be completed and I started to make a couple subtle changes. I cut the large common too large. I used more flexible speaker wire for the common in the center. This made soldering much easier. I lengthened the wire used between L3-C1-positive input terminal.


I have revised my enclosure design as well. More on that in a few. I need to clean my runoff table.
 

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You are going to really like these speakers. I got my replacement MiniDSP 10x10HD back and got everything hooked up again to my SEOS-12/DNA-360/TD12M ported speakers. Cranked up some music, 2 channel with subs and it sounded great. Close your eyes and you would think you were there. Imagining so good, I walked up to the screen three times to confirm the center channel was not on.
I was listening at reference level and so clean, I could have gone louder easily.
 

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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5  /t/1461749/seos-12-ae-td12m-project/90#post_23383172


You are going to really like these speakers. I got my replacement MiniDSP 10x10HD back and got everything hooked up again to my SEOS-12/DNA-360/TD12M ported speakers. Cranked up some music, 2 channel with subs and it sounded great. Close your eyes and you would think you were there. Imagining so good, I walked up to the screen three times to confirm the center channel was not on.
I was listening at reference level and so clean, I could have gone louder easily.

I love hearing impressions like that.
I just got the garage cleaned up enough to work and the runoff table cleared off. I had to repair a mirror frame before I could start. With that out of the way I am going to go start cutting panels. It will be next year after we get our AC replaced before my 18"s are added. Just a matter of budget at this point. Until then the 15" Titanic kit from PE will have to do a lot of work.
 

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Cranked up some music, 2 channel with subs and it sounded great. Close your eyes and you would think you were there. Imagining so good...

^This. This is what these are all about. The first track I played using these speakers was Beck's "Golden Age" on SACD. We all have our goto tracks, but this is it for me. I know it well or at least I thought I did. I kept hearing this sort of plinking sound on the accompanied notes during the opening acoustic guitar chords and I realized what it was I was hearing, it was the glockenspiel mallet striking the keys. I was floored by the clarity. It sounded like I was standing where the mic was placed during the recording. They are amazing speakers, you're gonna be pleased Chris.


-Nate
 

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Here are the physical measurement of the enclosure and panels I settled on after another revision.


Enclosure: 14.5" x 26" x 13.75" = 2.11965cf gross.

Port: 11.5" x 2" x 9.75"

Tuned to 50Hz based on 1.81684cf net enclosure volume.


Individual panels per enclosure:

2 - 14.5" x 26" 2nd baffle and back of enclosure

2 - 11.5" x 26" Sides

1 - 13" x 8.25" Top of port (I just realized I cut these incorrectly. :/ At least it is only 3 panels)

2 - 2" x 8.25" Sides of port

3 - 13" x 11.5" Top and bottom (bottom is double panel)

4 - 2" x 13" Bracing

4 - 2" x 11.5" Bracing


Ignore the top pile as those will go in my scrap pile. They are the incorrectly cut port tops.

http://s243.photobucket.com/user/filtor1/media/SEOS%2012%20AE%20TD12M%20Project/IMG_6857_zpsee00b1e8.jpg.html

http://s243.photobucket.com/user/filtor1/media/SEOS%2012%20AE%20TD12M%20Project/IMG_6858_zps93a48787.jpg.html


Hoping to get the three panels cut tomorrow and maybe some assembly. More pictures as I progress.
 

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I love hearing impressions like that.
I just got the garage cleaned up enough to work and the runoff table cleared off. I had to repair a mirror frame before I could start. With that out of the way I am going to go start cutting panels. It will be next year after we get our AC replaced before my 18"s are added. Just a matter of budget at this point. Until then the 15" Titanic kit from PE will have to do a lot of work.

I was wondering what the gold frame went to. I thought it was a picture.
 

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I was wondering what the gold frame went to. I thought it was a picture.
It was broken and traded between a few people before it was given to us. I guess it knew I would repair it.
 

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As I am working through this process I am discovering a whole new appreciation for what goes into all the speakers I own. A huge number of smaller variables all have to align and work alone and together. Just a little reflection mid way through this build.
 

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Looking good. Nice workspace. I'm working on my enclosures very slowly. Boxes are all done, but I need to put the finish on them.

Thank you. I used to have my car in there but that was sold a couple years ago. My truck won't fit without pushing the washer and dryer with the front bumper.
So It has become storage/work area for now.


As soon as I have the budget I am going to buy the Duratex for mine. I am getting close. What are you going to finish your enclosures with?
 

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Thank you. I used to have my car in there but that was sold a couple years ago. My truck won't fit without pushing the washer and dryer with the front bumper.
So It has become storage/work area for now.


As soon as I have the budget I am going to buy the Duratex for mine. I am getting close. What are you going to finish your enclosures with?
I'm in the process of veneering mine, but it'll take some time. I don't think I have enough veneer, so I'll probably finish 3 of them and do the other two a little later since they wont be used right away. Duratex is popular, but doesn't pass that WAF test in my house.
 

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I'm in the process of veneering mine, but it'll take some time. I don't think I have enough veneer, so I'll probably finish 3 of them and do the other two a little later since they wont be used right away. Duratex is popular, but doesn't pass that WAF test in my house.

Nice! I looked for your thread but wasn't able to find it. Can you throw up the link please? I am very lucky, my wife is extremely flexible with this hobby. I think it is already awkward in the living room and am only going to make it worse. If It doesn't work for her, I will have to find another way to enjoy them. Crossing my fingers she doesn't notice them any more than what is there now.
 

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Nice! I looked for your thread but wasn't able to find it. Can you throw up the link please? I am very lucky, my wife is extremely flexible with this hobby. I think it is already awkward in the living room and am only going to make it worse. If It doesn't work for her, I will have to find another way to enjoy them. Crossing my fingers she doesn't notice them any more than what is there now.
Haven't started a thread and was planning to post within this one once I'm done. I'm moving at such a snails pace that I figured I'd just threw a few images up at the end.
 

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Haven't started a thread and was planning to post within this one once I'm done. I'm moving at such a snails pace that I figured I'd just threw a few images up at the end.

Gotcha, I will keep an eye out for it. I can't help but share any progress I make. It motivates me to find the time to make something happen.
 

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Gotcha, I will keep an eye out for it. I can't help but share any progress I make. It motivates me to find the time to make something happen.
I would have, but I have to do routing and sanding outside and we haven't had consistent weather until recently. I've waited weeks for the weather to behave.
 

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I would have, but I have to do routing and sanding outside and we haven't had consistent weather until recently. I've waited weeks for the weather to behave.

Just do like I did and do it in the basement. It only leaves about 3" of dust on everything in sight.
 

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I would have, but I have to do routing and sanding outside and we haven't had consistent weather until recently. I've waited weeks for the weather to behave.

I have been waiting for a break in the weather as well. It stopped raining just long enough for me to knock those cuts out. The way my run off table has to be set up, The entire sheet has to go outside before it can be run through.

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Just do like I did and do it in the basement. It only leaves about 3" of dust on everything in sight.

I wish we had basements here. I dream of one day building a two story addition onto the back of our house. That is in the distant future though. It is nice to dream about.
 

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I wish we had basements here. I dream of one day building a two story addition onto the back of our house. That is in the distant future though. It is nice to dream about.

I keep forgetting you're in FL.


I'll trade you my basement for your climate.
 

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I keep forgetting you're in FL.


I'll trade you my basement for your climate.
Yeah man, I don't complain about the 5 months out of the year of not having to use ac and putting up my Christmas light in shorts and flip flops. I will take the couple months of 90deg+ and 90%+ humidity for ice any day.
 
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