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Streaming doesn't work well for me since it eats up my gigs. But after midnight I get unlimited free downloads.

Is there a way I can take advantage of this and download movies during this time?
 

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You'll need to mention how you are downloading (source). That way if there is something we can give you a solution (within forum rules).


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Streaming doesn't work well for me since it eats up my gigs. But after midnight I get unlimited free downloads.

Is there a way I can take advantage of this and download movies during this time?
I would suggest something like Internet Download Manager.

You can schedule downloads with it, and it supports capturing various types of streams.
 

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You'll need to mention how you are downloading (source). That way if there is something we can give you a solution (within forum rules).


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Yes, sorry that's really what I meant to ask... it's a big part of the problem. I was looking for a legit site/service (or even hardware) that allows a scheduled temporary download rather than streaming.

I tried VUDU on a HTPC a few years back and it was streaming only, same deal with Prime.

I have a PO box so even dvd's on Netflix is a hassle.

If I could just make use of my 12 mb/s sat connection, that would be a perfect solution.

I would suggest something like Internet Download Manager.

You can schedule downloads with it, and it supports capturing various types of streams.
Thanks I will check it out... but now that I think about it, the type of service I want will probably have it's own software.
 

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Streaming doesn't work well for me since it eats up my gigs. But after midnight I get unlimited free downloads.

Is there a way I can take advantage of this and download movies during this time?
The only services I am aware of that allow you to download the content for local playback, require you to purchase the target content and not just rent it for streaming. Nobody is going to allow you to legally download a streaming rental. Your only option would be an illegal torrent download.
 

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The only services I am aware of that allow you to download the content for local playback, require you to purchase the target content and not just rent it for streaming. Nobody is going to allow you to legally download a streaming rental. Your only option would be an illegal torrent download.
That is bad news.

There's really no reason a download couldn't work (after all streaming is just a download) but it seems like I'm the only one with this problem. :mad:

I guess it's back to driving to the post office so I can DVD's on netflix.
 

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I guess it's back to driving to the post office so I can DVD's on netflix.
I've been doing it for years and will continue to do so until they go out of the disk rental business.
 

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I've been doing it for years and will continue to do so until they go out of the disk rental business.
Yeah, I used to do it when I got my first projector back in 06'. But now that I live at 10,000ft in the rocky mountains, getting to the PO isn't always a simple affair (winter/ground blizzards).
 

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That is bad news.

There's really no reason a download couldn't work (after all streaming is just a download) but it seems like I'm the only one with this problem. :mad:

I guess it's back to driving to the post office so I can DVD's on netflix.

It's not really the same as a download (local copy). There is no really way to easily set a timer on the file so it would not be accessible again after said period was up. Also eventually a crack would be found for those local copies and people would rent then just break/circumvent the lock and keep/distribute the movie/show.

If you purchase a title then vudu allows you to download as does Amazon and ITunes. Most people in your situation probably stream or just download via "alternative" methods.


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It's not really the same as a download (local copy). There is no really way to easily set a timer on the file so it would not be accessible again after said period was up. Also eventually a crack would be found for those local copies and people would rent then just break/circumvent the lock and keep/distribute the movie/show.

If you purchase a title then vudu allows you to download as does Amazon and ITunes. Most people in your situation probably stream or just download via "alternative" methods.


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If I'm purchasing, I'll just order a hard copy on Amazon Prime. UPS/Fedex deliver to my door (unless a blizzard closes the road :eek:).

It would be super simple to implement a secure download rental system.

Just download an encrypted copy of the movie. In order to activate the movie you have to connect to a server that authenticates your rental (watched no more than 3-4 times in a 3 day period, for example). Once that time is up the encrypted file is deleted from your PC.

Sure someone will find a way to hack it, but a hacker can just go out and buy a hard-copy and/or illegal download etc, so it's not really making it any easier to pirate.
 

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It would be super simple to implement a secure download rental system.
They have no incentive to do so. The studios really hate rentals and streaming so they have no reason to make it convenient for people with bandwidth issues. They want you to buy the content on retail disks so they get all their money. They go so far as to remove HD audio and lower the video bitrate on some rentals so you don't get full quality unless you pay for it (LionsGate).
 
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If I'm purchasing, I'll just order a hard copy on Amazon Prime. UPS/Fedex deliver to my door (unless a blizzard closes the road :eek:).

It would be super simple to implement a secure download rental system.

Just download an encrypted copy of the movie. In order to activate the movie you have to connect to a server that authenticates your rental (watched no more than 3-4 times in a 3 day period, for example). Once that time is up the encrypted file is deleted from your PC.

Sure someone will find a way to hack it, but a hacker can just go out and buy a hard-copy and/or illegal download etc, so it's not really making it any easier to pirate.

They tried that with DVD at 1st (something similar) when it was called Divx. It was a huge failure. While they do have set ups like that for higher end systems (like Prima). I don't think anyone with any type of computer sense would allow remotely delete a file on their personal computer. There are services that will do what you say and they are in use, but I don't see any major adoption of that happening as to support that infrastructure is not something that many would want to invest in when he demand for it is so low.

Just as an alternative option for you, there are more than a few places where people sell their UV codes/Digital copies for about the cost of a rental maybe a little more.


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They tried that with DVD at 1st (something similar) when it was called Divx. It was a huge failure. While they do have set ups like that for higher end systems (like Prima). I don't think anyone with any type of computer sense would allow remotely delete a file on their personal computer. There are services that will do what you say and they are in use, but I don't see any major adoption of that happening as to support that infrastructure is not something that many would want to invest in when he demand for it is so low.

Just as an alternative option for you, there are more than a few places where people sell their UV codes/Digital copies for about the cost of a rental maybe a little more.


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There's not enough people like me to warrant my suggestion, I agree.

I was just saying that it could easily be done from a logistical POV. :)

I like your alternative option... I'll Google it, but do you have links to these sites?
 

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There's not enough people like me to warrant my suggestion, I agree.

I was just saying that it could easily be done from a logistical POV. :)

I like your alternative option... I'll Google it, but do you have links to these sites?

None that I can post here, but if you google UV/ Digital copies trade/buy/sell and similar you should find a few well known sites/forums that offer this :)


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