Shangrila Home Theater

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lbrown105

Discussion Starter · Oct 1, 2019 (Edited)

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Thought some of you might be interested in my latest home theater. In 2017 I moved to a new house with unfinsihed basement so I was able to design and build this from scratch. This is not a detailed theater build but I will try to describe some of the basics.

The room was designed to be multi purpose home theater and entertainment bar room. It is not completely finished but about 95% as of today. The theater is fully functionnal and calibrated but the kitchen still needs a few appliances and some of the final trim work is still underway. Also plan on adding some bar room darts and pool table. The bar is all brick base with poured in place concrete top with decor top coating. Kitchen countertop is also matched to the bar.

The room is about 1625sq ft with 8ft ceilings, so right around 13,000 cu ft of space. All of the walls and ceiling are DD+GG on clips and channels. The doors are 2.75in, 225lb, 4 ply MDF inner core with GG between layers, with automatic door closer and seals.

Theater equipment;

Projector - Epson LS10500
Speakers - 3 JTR 212HTR (2013 3 way version), 4 slant 8 lp's
Subs - 4 JTR Orbit SHifter LFU's
Amps - Lab Gruppen FP 10000 (mains), Sunfire TGA 400 (rears)
Pre-pro- Emotiva XMC-1 with Dirac Live
Sources - HTPC, Sony PS3, Direct TV
Screen - Seymour 4K acoustically transparent XD 172"

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markmon1

· #2 · Oct 1, 2019

That's pretty neat. Could you put a black curtain in that closes off the theater completely so when you were alone or such you could have complete light control?

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 1, 2019

markmon1 said:
That's pretty neat. Could you put a black curtain in that closes off the theater completely so when you were alone or such you could have complete light control?

Thanks Markmon. You could do that but that room is already so dark that when watching a moving I turn the back soffit lights on but all the way down on dim. Otherwise you can hardly makke it to the kitchen for a snack during a movie in the dark scenes! I purposely made the back wall dark with the darker paint and black panels to avoid direct reflection back to the screen. Only the ceiling is white above the bar and it does not reflect back to the screen because of the incidence angle.

farsider3000

· #4 · Oct 3, 2019

lbrown105 said:
Thanks Markmon. You could do that but that room is already so dark that when watching a moving I turn the back soffit lights on but all the way down on dim. Otherwise you can hardly makke it to the kitchen for a snack during a movie in the dark scenes! I purposely made the back wall dark with the darker paint and black panels to avoid direct reflection back to the screen. Only the ceiling is white above the bar and it does not reflect back to the screen because of the incidence angle.

Nice room. You definitely need a Control4 system! I think the best part of my system is the ability to turn on my lights a dim level and then to full brightness. I can also turn on the ceiling fan. It’s crazy how much I love the fact that everyone can sit down and get comfortable and then I can hit one button on the remote to take the lights down. It also allows me control over the zoom / aspect ratio of my projector.

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megametaman

· #5 · Oct 3, 2019

Wow. Sweet setup. I'm very jealous. You have a lot of the features I'm personally striving towards. Have you had the JTRs since 2013? How do you like the JTR surrounds? I've been considering picking some up, especially low profile. Any regrets on them or doubts? Does it just rock your rocks off?

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 3, 2019 (Edited)

farsider3000 said:
Nice room. You definitely need a Control4 system! I think the best part of my system is the ability to turn on my lights a dim level and then to full brightness. I can also turn on the ceiling fan. It’s crazy how much I love the fact that everyone can sit down and get comfortable and then I can hit one button on the remote to take the lights down. It also allows me control over the zoom / aspect ratio of my projector.

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yes I have all my lights including the LED in the bar controlled on my phone. Really cool becasue you can do them all independently or simply save different settings and hit one button for different atmosphere settings. Also the Emotiva is on app control with the phone too.

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 3, 2019

megametaman said:
Wow. Sweet setup. I'm very jealous. You have a lot of the features I'm personally striving towards. Have you had the JTRs since 2013? How do you like the JTR surrounds? I've been considering picking some up, especially low profile. Any regrets on them or doubts? Does it just rock your rocks off?

yes I have had the 212HTRs since 2013 and completely addicted to the sound quality and raw power they have. I got the first set of S8 low profile in 2014 and just added two more for this theater. YEs they match very well and have nice wide dispersion pattern for rears. Very happy with them.

beastaudio

· #8 · Oct 3, 2019

Looking good homey! Are all those panels absorb or do you have some diffusion/diffraction built in there in areas?

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #9 · Oct 4, 2019

beastaudio said:
Looking good homey! Are all those panels absorb or do you have some diffusion/diffraction built in there in areas?

Thanks Beast. All of the panels are absorption but I built the round columns for some diffusion. Might look at some QRD's for the fireplace room. RT60 still slightly high around 400-450. For a room this size I am thinking about 300-350 will sound prefect. Before I placed any panels it was 850-900!

Any recos on additional diffusion or absorption?

beastaudio

· #10 · Oct 7, 2019

lbrown105 said:
Thanks Beast. All of the panels are absorption but I built the round columns for some diffusion. Might look at some QRD's for the fireplace room. RT60 still slightly high around 400-450. For a room this size I am thinking about 300-350 will sound prefect. Before I placed any panels it was 850-900!

Any recos on additional diffusion or absorption?

Quest panels are the greatest

Not cheap, but their Qfractor panels would do you good in a few places.

fieldtensor

· #11 · Oct 7, 2019

lbrown105 said:
Thought some of you might be interested in my latest home theater. In 2017 I moved to a new house with unfinsihed basement so I was able to design and build this from scratch. This is not a detailed theater build but I will try to describe some of the basics.

The room was designed to be multi purpose home theater and entertainment bar room. It is not completely finished but about 95% as of today. The theater is fully functionnal and calibrated but the kitchen still needs a few appliances and some of the final trim work is still underway. Also plan on adding some bar room darts and pool table. The bar is all brick base with poured in place concrete top with decor top coating. Kitchen countertop is also matched to the bar.

The room is about 1625sq ft with 8ft ceilings, so right around 13,000 cu ft of space. All of the walls and ceiling are DD+GG on clips and channels. The doors are 2.75in, 225lb, 4 ply MDF inner core with GG between layers, with automatic door closer and seals.

Theater equipment;

Projector - Epson LS10500
Speakers - 3 JTR 212HTR (2013 3 way version), 4 slant 8 lp's
Subs - 4 JTR Orbit SHifter LFU's
Amps - Lab Gruppen FP 10000 (mains), Sunfire TGA 400 (rears)
Pre-pro- Emotiva XMC-1 with Dirac Live
Sources - HTPC, Sony PS3, Direct TV
Screen - Seymour 4K acoustically transparent XD 172"

Do you find that black paint on the walls and ceilings helps significantly with image contrast? It certainly helps overall immersion to have the room "disappear", but does it significantly help control reflected ambient light to actually yield a better image?

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #12 · Oct 8, 2019

fieldtensor said:
Do you find that black paint on the walls and ceilings helps significantly with image contrast? It certainly helps overall immersion to have the room "disappear", but does it significantly help control reflected ambient light to actually yield a better image?

I think it does. @swok could answer this in a more technical way and he calibrated the projector. I think a big part of that calibration is measuring the image including any light that is being reflected back onto the screen. I can say since he calibrated this laser projector the image and color accuracy is crazy good IMHO.

My pictures are not that good but the walls are a dark hue of grey/blue (mostly grey) and the ceiling and front curtain wall are black.

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 24, 2020

Just updating with a few new pics and a quick video of the bar lights.

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lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 24, 2020 (Edited)

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Here are a few more pics too. The room is not 100% complete but fully functional for a GTG which we are planning for Feb 8th starting at 2p. Just RSVP here or in the WI Area GTG thread. Like to get a head count to plan for food. We will do a fair amount of movie demo clips, music and a new release movie to watch (Title TBD). More details to come but i would like to start gauging interest.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/61-a...sconsin-area-home-theater-meet-thread-80.html

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femi

· #15 · Jan 24, 2020

Hey @lbrown105 , i love your floors, what are they?

Femi

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 24, 2020

thx Femi, the bar area is a floating LVT. Basically interlocking LVT with a backing to provide some cushion sompared to straight glued down LVT. WIie variety of looks and patterns available.

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #17 · Feb 21, 2020

beastaudio said:
Quest panels are the greatest Not cheap, but their Qfractor panels would do you good in a few places.

@beastaudio curious about your experience with those diffusors. I was considering those back in the fireplace room to create some diffusion for listening to music at the bar area. That way you would be sitting at least 10 ft away from them. What is your expeerience?

beastaudio

· #18 · Feb 21, 2020

lbrown105 said:
@beastaudio curious about your experience with those diffusors. I was considering those back in the fireplace room to create some diffusion for listening to music at the bar area. That way you would be sitting at least 10 ft away from them. What is your expeerience?

Quest is what Shawn Byrne is using I am pretty sure exclusively for his HTE designs he's doing now. He would be a much better person to discuss this with but from a technical standpoint, the Qfractor panels are an excellent mix of both diffusion and absorption so you can, with proper placement kill two birds with one stone.

lbrown105

Discussion Starter · #19 · Feb 22, 2020

beastaudio said:
Quest is what Shawn Byrne is using I am pretty sure exclusively for his HTE designs he's doing now. He would be a much better person to discuss this with but from a technical standpoint, the Qfractor panels are an excellent mix of both diffusion and absorption so you can, with proper placement kill two birds with one stone.

ok thanks I'll check it out

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