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There is a really great deal today on the Sharp LC-55LE620UT. Seems like a good tv for the price, but I can't seem to find much mention of it anywhere in terms of reviews. Anybody own or know anything about this tv that can comment on it?
 

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I believe it's a new Budget version of 2010 models and not widely available yet. Sharp had mentioned in early 2010 that they eventually wanted to transition to all LED eventually and this appears to be part of that transition.



Sharp 1080P LCD TV
  • 120HZ Frame Rate Conversion
  • 4 HDMI
  • 2 HD Component Inputs
  • 2,000,000:1 contrast ratio

Sharp AQUOS 55″ 1080P TV, 120Hz frame rate conversion, Edge Lit LED, Four HDMI, Enhanced Black level feature
 

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Got one on the black friday/cyber monday deal. Awesome screen the remote and menu are ****. Glad I have a harmony, can't name inputs and the on screen menu is like from a 1990 crt tv. Definately a step back from my d65u but hey how often do you use the menu.


Also when switching inputs you get a blue screen which is annoying in a dark room if you are used to the older sharp black screens. The subwoofer is weak and anything over medium makes the sound come out like crap.


USB input plays MKV!!! Which is awesome because I use my xbox to stream all my porn but have to convert mkv to get it to work, now I don't.


Overall great screen, full 178 degree viewing angle, thin, light, and cheap...but like i said if you have to have the latest high tech OSD then your ****ed...
 

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So have been using this TV for a couple of hours, here are my updated thoughts:


Great picture, awesome Motion Judder Control, basically the same as AMP from Samsung and the like. Makes porn look like 60FPS awesome...


Still waiting for discreete input commands for my logitech harmony so that's not really working, stuck using multiple controllers again, and the HDMI inputs take about 5-6 seconds to lock on and display a signal. So basically if you switch input your waiting at a blue screen till the signal hits, sometimes it takes so long the tv even displays "no signal" and then locks onto the hdmi signal.


I understand the need to cut corners to get an LED TV of 55" to the $1199 pricepoint, but seriously how much does using old software cost?? I mean why design NEW downgraded software for the OSD...sigh but man perfect 178 degree viewing with no loss of color, incredible clarity, I think the price jumped up to $1299 after the holiday but it is still a great deal.


You might not get wifi or webapps but it basically comes with an internal media player that plays almost every divx, mkv (with subs!!), avi and mp4 file I threw at it. Only thing it doesn't support is WMV, but since most of my WMV files use WMApro audio, none of the other media set top boxes support it anyways, just the xbox 360.


Please if you have any questions I will be more than happy to give you my opinion.
 

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It is a matte screen with very low reflection but the bezel is very glossy piano black, also figured out if you turn off the "blue mute" video setting the screen goes back to black in between input switches, which is much nicer in a dark room.


Also this tv is thinner than any other sharp ccfl backlt lcd tv's but not as thin as sharps top of the line LED tv's or Samsung LED tv's, I bought this thinking I was going to get a 1 inch beaty but its more like 2 inches, not the thinnest but thin enough I need some spacers to put on my flat mount.
 

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I just purchased this TV, and I agree with the other commenters on the points they make.


I do have one addition though. My TV has an uneven backlight that I suspect is a common issue. You only really notice it on a black screen. It is pretty mild in the corners, but brighter two-thirds of the way down the screen in the middle. Has anyone else noticed this? I like it otherwise.
 

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I got one, also need the color calibrated...right now its crushing blacks and I can't figure out how to bring out the detail.....lots of individual settings to play around with.


Has very low input lag for gaming even in STANDARD mode, when clicking on GAME mode its perfectly usable even with a mouse/keyboard as a PC display.


Impressive.
 

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How is this set for gaming with a PS3 or Xbox 360? Think it would be an all around upgrade from my Panasonic 50PX80U? Does it have PIP?
 

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Outstanding for gaming, extremely low input lag.
 

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Originally Posted by HeadRusch /forum/post/19731327


Outstanding for gaming, extremely low input lag.

Extremely low as in it doesn't have any? I have zero lag with my Panny but it's only a 720p and I am looking to get a 1080 set.
 

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Didn't measure it, only know that all LCD TV's have some input lag, its a question of getting the lowest. SHARP and I believe JVC are the manufacturers that usually wind up at the top of the heap when it comes to lowest input lag. When I turn on GAME MODE and have the set plugged into my PC I get no perceivable lag even when wildly moving a mouse around a screen, you certainly don't notice it for gamepads (360/ps3).....


Its as responsive as my desktop monitor, which has no scaling/etc so theoretically it should give me no (or minimal) lag as well....take that for what its worth.


I'm satisfied.


I've been reading up on the nightmare that people are having with cheaper LCD panels, almost bought one of the inexpensive Vizio LED panels until i saw that even with their "game mode" turned on it still had noticeable input lag, same as the cheap LCD sets sold at Walmart, etc.
 

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Have you ever owned a Plasma? If so, how does this LCD compare? When I originally bought my plasma, LCD's didn't look as good, but it seems like LCD's are catching up. Does it have picture in picture? Thank you for the help by the way
 

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I have a 720p 50" Plasma upstairs, an LG from 2 years ago......I would say the overall black levels are about equal between the sets, however I think the shadow detail comes out a little more on the Plasma. I haven't, you know, put them side by side and thrown up a black screen or anything...its too inconvenient



I will tell you that you need to turn off the automatic-dimming on this set, it performs slowly enough that I notice the "ramp up or ramp down" of bright/dark scenes as the backlights try to keep up. I think, however, most auto-dimming features are the same, aka: kind of slow.....


This model doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles, no PIP or internet streaming or any of that, its basically a 1080p LED edge-lit set. I would say if you are used to a plasma, you may want to stick with plasma...why? Well, one, the flashlighting in the corners may be distracting to you. It doesn't bother me, but this isn't what I would call a mission-critical set for me......also, plasmas have a certain look that is different than LCD, its hard to describe.....


For about the same money as this set you can get a 1080p Plasma you know, 55 to 58" I think for about the same money. And of course with a plasma, you get no input lag.


My .02 cents. I wouldn't want you to buy the set based solely on my recommendation, I considered going with a plasma but ultimately decided I was going to do enough gaming on the thing I didn't want to risk burn-in, hence I decided to go LCD. When I saw I could get an LED-lit model for just a few hundred more than a basic CCFL lit model, I decided to go with it instead....plus it was the SHARP with its Vyper Drive engine for inputs, aka: very low lag, SHARP even created a name for it so they could cater to gamers.
 

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Wow, thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I really appreciate your input and you definetly helped me to decide to stick with a plasma. I totally understand what you mean when you said that plasma's just have a different look to them and that was my major concern with an LCD. Do you think it is worth the money to upgrade to a newer 1080 plasma though? The one thing that drives me crazy with my current set is the motion blur when I am watching sports. I think my set only has a 60Hz refresh rate and it seems like newer sets are 120.
 

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Not a problem, just sharing my experiences....personally, I don't really think its worth it to upgrade to 1080p unless you want to move to a bigger set, or you sit very close to your 720p set.


Now, the thing with Motion Blur is interesting. As you know, Plasmas can't be compared with LCD panels and that whole 600Hz sub-field drive crap versus the 120hz refresh rates of LCD's.....its apples and oranges and its a lot of marketing.


If you are seeing blurring on your plasma, what you are probably seeing is the phosphers not dimming quickly enough, but I don't believe that newer plasma sets "fix" that problem per say, but I could be wrong. I think newer plasmas have pixels that are better at dimming quicker, hence less of what I think you are referring to when you see Motion Blur. Best thing to do is go into a store and look for yourself.


What I can say is this, Plasmas (the new ones that all advertise that 600hz sub-field drive technology) don't give you that "Soap Opera Artificial" look at 120 or 240hz LCD sets do....at least my LG upstairs with the 600Hz drive just looks like a "normal TV set". Movies look like movies and live TV (sports, Leno, etc) look like they are supposed to. There is no setting to turn on or off....


But with LCD 120hz or 240hz sets, they take that "live television" look and apply it to every show you are watching, with decidedly mixed results.....in fact its the first feature I turned off
I might turn it on for sports but to be perfectly honest, sports already run at 60fps so....its artificial to me...


Oh Yeah...for gaming, remember...the 360 and PS3 will be with us for awhile more. Neither of them do 1080p natively, they are basically 720p machines with rare exceptions. Moving to 1080p wont get you a better picture, it really just lets you sit closer to the screen without seeing pixels, and for me its easier to see pixels on a plasma than on an LCD, so if you are going to go Plasma.....and you sit close to your display...maybe its beneficial for you to consider a move up to 1080p after all?
 

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Not a problem, just sharing my experiences....personally, I don't really think its worth it to upgrade to 1080p unless you want to move to a bigger set, or you sit very close to your 720p set.


Now, the thing with Motion Blur is interesting. As you know, Plasmas can't be compared with LCD panels and that whole 600Hz sub-field drive crap versus the 120hz refresh rates of LCD's.....its apples and oranges and its a lot of marketing.


If you are seeing blurring on your plasma, what you are probably seeing is the phosphers not dimming quickly enough, but I don't believe that newer plasma sets "fix" that problem per say, but I could be wrong. I think newer plasmas have pixels that are better at dimming quicker, hence less of what I think you are referring to when you see Motion Blur. Best thing to do is go into a store and look for yourself.


What I can say is this, Plasmas (the new ones that all advertise that 600hz sub-field drive technology) don't give you that "Soap Opera Artificial" look at 120 or 240hz LCD sets do....at least my LG upstairs with the 600Hz drive just looks like a "normal TV set". Movies look like movies and live TV (sports, Leno, etc) look like they are supposed to. There is no setting to turn on or off....


But with LCD 120hz or 240hz sets, they take that "live television" look and apply it to every show you are watching, with decidedly mixed results.....in fact its the first feature I turned off
I might turn it on for sports but to be perfectly honest, sports already run at 60fps so....its artificial to me...


Oh Yeah...for gaming, remember...the 360 and PS3 will be with us for awhile more. Neither of them do 1080p natively, they are basically 720p machines with rare exceptions. Moving to 1080p wont get you a better picture, it really just lets you sit closer to the screen without seeing pixels, and for me its easier to see pixels on a plasma than on an LCD, so if you are going to go Plasma.....and you sit close to your display...maybe its beneficial for you to consider a move up to 1080p after all?

Thank you so much for all the useful info. You are very knowledgeable and I really respect your opinion. The reason I have even considered upgrading my TV, is that one day I was walking through BB and they had a BluRay of Transformers playing on one of their Home Theater setups. I couldn't believe my eyes and was like, "damn, my picture never looked like that". Everything looked so 3 dimensional and it looked like I could literally reach out and touch everything. The one thing I did notice though, since you brought it up in the last response you gave, is that it did look like I was watching a soap opera as far as some of the scenes looked like I was the camera man,like raw footage or something, it's hard to describe. Now I don't own a dedicated BR player as I have the PS3, so maybe between the dedicated BR player, a 1080p movie, and a 1080p set made the difference? The only BR movie I own is one of the Harry Potter movies and it looks good, but nowhere near what I saw that day in BB. I do watch a ton of MKV movies and I love the idea that this set has a built in media player that can play MKV's without having to stream them from my PS3.
 

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The one thing I did notice though, since you brought it up in the last response you gave, is that it did look like I was watching a soap opera as far as some of the scenes looked like I was the camera man,like raw footage or something, it's hard to describe. Now I don't own a dedicated BR player as I have the PS3, so maybe between the dedicated BR player, a 1080p movie, and a 1080p set made the difference? The only BR movie I own is one of the Harry Potter movies and it looks good, but nowhere near what I saw that day in BB. I do watch a ton of MKV movies and I love the idea that this set has a built in media player that can play MKV's without having to stream them from my PS3.

Ok, well lets assume the MKV's are equivalent to BD discs in terms of visual quality (give or take)....


What you were seeing, I am guessing, was not the 1080p effect, but the fact that modern LCD's have that 120 or 240hz mode kicked on by default. Most sets have a demo-mode you can turn on where half the screen gets the 120hz effect while the other doesn't...I think that is what you were seeing. And most folks turn that feature off because it isn't consistent, example, some shots seem "normal" but on shots with lots of movement you get that "fast forward/live video" look...but it comes and goes depending on how much is happening onscreen, its really annoying (to me!) and a lot of others.


Also remember its a lot of other things int he store too...maybe the BRIGHTNESS and CONTRAST are jacked to max in the store, making the image look "punchier", and so on and so on. Its a lot of things, but honestly from about 5 feet away I really can't tell the resolution difference on my 50" sets between 1080p and 720p. Oh sure maybe if I stare I might say "that looks a little sharper on the 1080p" but for most folks its a wash.


Oh yeah and ask for MKV's, I'm not sure how well it does it, I haven't tried it...while it is a nice feature you already seem to haev a solution for that.
 
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