[mchuckp]

Someone please enlighten me.


I thought I read somewhere that you DON'T want a progressive scan dvd player if you have a Samsung DLP TV. I thought I remember that the software in the TV uses something a bit different but to the same end result and to make sure your prog. scan is in the off mode.


Please correct me if I dreamed this. I am looking at getting one of these TVs soon and want to make the most of it, but don't want to buy a new DVD player if I don't need to. I currently do not own a prog scan player.


Thanks everyone!

 

[Slordak]

If nothing else, it'll help with audio/video sync issues to use a DVD player which outputs in progressive scan. Essentially, the "video delay" will be addressed by removing the sluggish de-interlace step from the Samsung DLP's input processing.


Although as other folks have noted, you don't want to be using a cheap progressive scan player, since this will actually give you worse image quality.

 

[BillP]

You will get a great PQ with the DLP with either a progressive or non-progressive DVD player. The DLP will upscale a progressive (480p) signal, but will deinterlace and upscale a non-progressive, interlaced (480i) signal. The DLP has a Faroudja chip, and so will do a great job with both deinterlacing and upscaling. Thus, you do not need to go out and buy a new progressive scan player.


However, you will get an even better PQ with one of the new upscaling DVD players that can deinterlace and upscale the signal to 720p (the native resolution of the Samsung DLP), and send that signal digitally to the DLP over a DVI or HDMI cable. (Your current player, as well as progressive scan players, must convert the signal to analog to pass to the DLP, which then converts it back to digital for display. The upscaling players keep the signal digital throughout, which theoretically gives you a better PQ.) Research the Denon 1910, as an excellent example.

 

[mchuckp]

Thanks for your input. Currently I am using my Xbox as my DVD player. It does games in progressive scan but not DVDs. I'm very interested in the upconverting DVD players that are out however I hearing around about next generation dvd players that can support HD and blue light lasers. I really haven't gotten too far into my research to see how far these things are in the future.


If we are years away from new dvd technology then I am very interested in an upconverting DVD player. If they are not that far off, I'd rather not spend $200-$500 on a player that I'll want to replace in the near future.


Thanks again!

 

[mchuckp]

I'm hearing don't use a cheap dvd player. I'm currently using my xbox to play DVD's. Would anyone consider this a "cheap" player or at least average?


One more question, does anyone know offhand if any of the upconverting DVD players have a coaxial digital audio input instead of optical? My receiver only has 2 opticals and 1 coaxial for audio. I have to use optical for satellite and xbox. This only leaves coaxial for digital surround.

 

[BillP]

True HD DVD players are years away from being affordable (and from sorting out the technology battle). Believe me, the Denon 1910, for $250, will look better than your xbox!

 

[tjk]

Quote:

Originally posted by mchuckp I'm hearing don't use a cheap dvd player. I'm currently using my xbox to play DVD's. Would anyone consider this a "cheap" player or at least average? One more question, does anyone know offhand if any of the upconverting DVD players have a coaxial digital audio input instead of optical? My receiver only has 2 opticals and 1 coaxial for audio. I have to use optical for satellite and xbox. This only leaves coaxial for digital surround.

Spending 3K or more on a TV and worrying about $250 on a DVD player is penny wise and pound foolish, IMHO. You just bought a great TV - give it the best signal you can.


We are at least a year away from blue ray or whatever else may be coming, and they will be priced out of reach initially, so you are going to have this DVD player for at least two years, if not longer. Find yourself a nice upconverting player with HDMI or DVI out. They should all have both coax and optical outs (the Denon's do). Enjoy.

 

[kyungkim]

if you are purchasing a new dvd player and you already own a samsung dlp, it would be absolutely foolish to purchase one without dvi.


The differences are not subtle, ive checked this out first hand. Get one with dvi, but NOT a samsung unit.

K

 

[Hi Deaf]

Home Theater magazine just reviewed the Bravo D2: "it doesn't get any better than the all-digital, beautifully detailed picture you get from the Bravo D2's DVI output. If you have a DVI display, this is absolutely the player for you." All for only $249.00. http://www.vinc.com/product.asp?ID=56&PID=21&SEQ=2

 

[LeeG23]

I was using my PS2 as a DVD player until I got my Samsung DLP (5063). I lasted about 2 months, and realized I need to give a better signal to the set.


I bought the Denon 1910 and a DVI cable - and there is a NOTICEABLE difference with the Denon - much more film-like picture, less jaggies, better color reproduction, no combing, etc etc. I am new to all this stuff, but the DVI-player at 720p was a significant improvement.


Believe me, with this set, I will be anxious to get an HD-DVD (or blu-ray) player when they are affordable (I am not anxious to get all new copies of my DVDs). But, I think it will be years before that happens - for the time being, the PS2 is not a dvd player. Step it up--- you'll appreciate it-


Lee

 

[BillP]

Quote:

Originally posted by Hi Deaf Home Theater magazine just reviewed the Bravo D2: "it doesn't get any better than the all-digital, beautifully detailed picture you get from the Bravo D2's DVI output. If you have a DVI display, this is absolutely the player for you." All for only $249.00. http://www.vinc.com/product.asp?ID=56&PID=21&SEQ=2

Many here would disagree based on the fact that whether or not the player will actually work (or will still be working 1 year later) is a crap shoot. For the same price, I'd go with the 1910.

 

[RaceTripper]

Quote:

Originally posted by kyungkim if you are purchasing a new dvd player and you already own a samsung dlp, it would be absolutely foolish to purchase one without dvi. The differences are not subtle, ive checked this out first hand. Get one with dvi, but NOT a samsung unit. K

Well that's not universally true.


I compared my current component player (with a Silicon Image deinterlacer) with the newer HDMI player in the same brand line, and the HDMI player is not better. And other than the Krell Showcase (and Denon?) I don't know of any HDMI players in the same or better range.


But I wasn't going to spend just $200 or so on a DVD after spending $4K+ on the TV. That would be like buying a HTIB for it.


Nevertheless, just because a player has DVI and upscaling, doesn't automatically make it better. There's way more to a player than it's connection and what resolution it outputs. And DVDs are still only 480i no matter what you do to them. So you scale in the player instead of the TV. What if the TV has a better scaler (which may be the case with a $4K DLP vs. a $200+ DVD player).


Maybe in lower price ranges that's true, but not across the board.

 

[mchuckp]

good point dwette. I'd really like to be able to compare these upscaling players to a standard player. I doubt I can find a store to do it except maybe a high end store. I still have a few months before I even buy the TV, so I have some time to research it. I want the best possible but don't want to waste money on overkill equipment.


Thanks everyone again for your input!


I will go research the Bravo and Denon players.

 

[1Mark1]

DVD's thru DVI from HTPC is the way to go. Here's the nearest thing to HD DVD's there will be for a long time. They look pretty good too.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...e.aspx#drmnote

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ilm/T2DVD.aspx