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Guys, its shopping time and from what I have been reading, your a fool not to go plasma unless you have a very bright room or are a gameaholic.
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gameaholic? why would you want LCD for gaming? From my understanding Plasma has a faster response time than LCDs so it would be better for gaming. Especially since concole cant display 1080p video games at 120 frames per second so having a 120Hz display wont give a large improvement over 60Hz LCDs in gaming.
I like plasma better, but I can understand why some prefer LCD. Go to a store like best buy and look at the top of the line Samsung LCDs. The ones with local LED back lighting and cost like $3,000 and up. The vividness of the pictures is fantastic. The picture really pops out. Many plasma enthusiasts will claim it only looks that way in a store. If it can look that great in a store, it will look at least as good at home.
The pictures seem artificially enhanced to me, but I have to admit they look fantastic. I prefer the more realistic picture that plasma's seem better at producing.
I think plasma is a better buy for the dollar right now, but I don't think any plasma can produce the images the new top of the line Samsung LCDs do. Including the Kuro's.
I like plasma better, but I can understand why some prefer LCD. Go to a store like best buy and look at the top of the line Samsung LCDs. The ones with local LED back lighting and cost like $3,000 and up. The vividness of the pictures is fantastic. The picture really pops out. Many plasma enthusiasts will claim it only looks that way in a store. If it can look that great in a store, it will look at least as good at home.
The pictures seem artificially enhanced to me, but I have to admit they look fantastic. I prefer the more realistic picture that plasma's seem better at producing.
I think plasma is a better buy for the dollar right now, but I don't think any plasma can produce the images the new top of the line Samsung LCDs do. Including the Kuro's.
A bright room is a problem for plasmas.
Plasma fans will tell you that burn-in is a thing of the past. My experience is that it is still something to be aware of if you use the set in particular ways.
Example - you leave the set on a particular channel that has set logos or a crawl at the bottom of the screen. Something like ESPN or CNN. Or, you watch mostly SD images, which are 4:3, leaving black bars on the side. These can burn-in over time, if used excessively.
Another situation would be if you have kids that use the set for videos or games. They tend to leave things paused for hours. This can cause Spongebob to be a regular part of your viewing, if you're not careful.
Plasmas tend to do very well with movies, resolving dark shadow detail. If you like the type of film that tends to have lots of dark scenes, this is your technology.
The downside is that the whites generated by plasmas tend to look grey, when compared with LCD. Basically, one technology excels at displaying the darks, the other the bright.
One issue that has always killed plasma for me is the screen glare. I always see myself watching a plasma screen - regardless of how nice and dark the room is. Some of this is the reflective nature of plasma screens, some is me being too easily distracted.
Plasma is cheap right now. You can get a much bigger screen size per dollar spent than with LCD. If price is an important factor, plasma would be hard to ignore.
Bottom line - both technologies offer picture quality that exceeds what any of us have had in our homes before. You cannot go wrong with either decision. One may fit your viewing preferences better than the other, and that is the direction you'll likely be most happy with.
Plasma fans will tell you that burn-in is a thing of the past. My experience is that it is still something to be aware of if you use the set in particular ways.
Example - you leave the set on a particular channel that has set logos or a crawl at the bottom of the screen. Something like ESPN or CNN. Or, you watch mostly SD images, which are 4:3, leaving black bars on the side. These can burn-in over time, if used excessively.
Another situation would be if you have kids that use the set for videos or games. They tend to leave things paused for hours. This can cause Spongebob to be a regular part of your viewing, if you're not careful.
Plasmas tend to do very well with movies, resolving dark shadow detail. If you like the type of film that tends to have lots of dark scenes, this is your technology.
The downside is that the whites generated by plasmas tend to look grey, when compared with LCD. Basically, one technology excels at displaying the darks, the other the bright.
One issue that has always killed plasma for me is the screen glare. I always see myself watching a plasma screen - regardless of how nice and dark the room is. Some of this is the reflective nature of plasma screens, some is me being too easily distracted.
Plasma is cheap right now. You can get a much bigger screen size per dollar spent than with LCD. If price is an important factor, plasma would be hard to ignore.
Bottom line - both technologies offer picture quality that exceeds what any of us have had in our homes before. You cannot go wrong with either decision. One may fit your viewing preferences better than the other, and that is the direction you'll likely be most happy with.
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Just went looking at Plasma TV's and on some you can just feel the heat radiating off. The TV I'm replacing is 36" Sony XBR tube. I've never noticed any heat from it...but i would guess they are about the same? Or do Plasma's run hotter?
It matters because the TV is going in the kitchen/hearth room which already gets plenty hot when cooking.
It matters because the TV is going in the kitchen/hearth room which already gets plenty hot when cooking.
i disagree and i own a newer plasma. If you are using proper settings and make sure to gray-bar or stretch most 4:3 content, it's not a problem. If you want to plug it in and go, and refuse to take any precautions, plasma is probably not for you.
I think to say it's not a problem amounts to being able to plug it in and go, which is not true. You don't need to be anal about it, but I have experienced 2.35:1 IR, 4:3 IR, and HUD IR after gaming. That said it was all gone within 5 minutes of normal viewing and even before then it was only noticable on a blank input.
That said, being careful and responsible is a small price to pay, and I wouldn't trade my plasma for anything except a better plasma
i disagree and i own a newer plasma. If you are using proper settings and make sure to gray-bar or stretch most 4:3 content, it's not a problem. If you want to plug it in and go, and refuse to take any precautions, plasma is probably not for you.
I think to say it's not a problem amounts to being able to plug it in and go, which is not true. You don't need to be anal about it, but I have experienced 2.35:1 IR, 4:3 IR, and HUD IR after gaming. That said it was all gone within 5 minutes of normal viewing and even before then it was only noticable on a blank input.
That said, being careful and responsible is a small price to pay, and I wouldn't trade my plasma for anything except a better plasma
I have a 50px80, and i know the difference between burn-in and IR. I'm just trying to say that you still need to view responsibly with a plasma.
As far as burn-in goes, i haven't seen it, but my dad has ruined his pre-kuro pioneer by watching all of his 4:3 without stretching it or using grey bars. he even has the volume and channel displays burnt in to the screen. I know I'm talking about a 4 year old display here, but it is naive to say burn-in is a thing of the past. I guarantee you i could burn in any plasma today with enough letterbox/pillarbox viewing, that's all i'm trying to say.
I have a 50px80, and i know the difference between burn-in and IR. I'm just trying to say that you still need to view responsibly with a plasma.
As far as burn-in goes, i haven't seen it, but my dad has ruined his pre-kuro pioneer by watching all of his 4:3 without stretching it or using grey bars. he even has the volume and channel displays burnt in to the screen. I know I'm talking about a 4 year old display here, but it is naive to say burn-in is a thing of the past. I guarantee you i could burn in any plasma today with enough letterbox/pillarbox viewing, that's all i'm trying to say.
We will have to agree to disagree on burn in, I don't think its and issue anymore(any make/model with an orbiter setting) with anything remotley close to normal viewing/gaming.
With that said, yes we could probably burn one in if we set to torch/vivid and displayed side bars 24/7/365 with no orbiter settings engaged. But it would be quicker to just hit the screen with a hammer and be done with it.
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We will have to agree to disagree on burn in, I don't think its and issue anymore(any make/model with an orbiter setting) with anything remotley close to normal viewing/gaming.
With that said, yes we could probably burn one in if we set to torch/vivid and displayed side bars 24/7/365 with no orbiter settings engaged. But it would be quicker to just hit the screen with a hammer and be done with it.
Just throwing in a little humor, that's all..
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There's alteady been a gazillion posts and threads on this so-called "heat" issue, which is all bunk and moot to the laughable point of making the plasma displays sound like they are flame throwers and Alaskan basement heaters.
Just throwing in a little humor, that's all..
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The word simple doesn't come to mind when you put LCD and plasma in the same sentence.
And as far as heat goes I think there's more heat coming off of these LCD vs plasma debates than there is heat coming off a plasma. LOL And yes, there's some heat coming off of them for sure.
I never knew why the Hatfields and McCoy's fought but I bet it all started because one of them bought an LCD and the other bought a plasma and one of them made the mistake of saying their TV had better picture quality than the other.
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And as far as heat goes I think there's more heat coming off of these LCD vs plasma debates than there is heat coming off a plasma. LOL And yes, there's some heat coming off of them for sure.
I never knew why the Hatfields and McCoy's fought but I bet it all started because one of them bought an LCD and the other bought a plasma and one of them made the mistake of saying their TV had better picture quality than the other.
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K guys, going tomorrow. Going to put a thermometer on my 36 inch Sony tube. Then gonna take the same thermometer to BB and put it on comparable size LCD, PLASMA,LED. No its not scientific, its gee wizz.
I'll report back.
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The word simple doesn't come to mind when you put LCD and plasma in the same sentence.
And as far as heat goes I think there's more heat coming off of these LCD vs plasma debates than there is heat coming off a plasma. LOL And yes, there's some heat coming off of them for sure.
I never knew why the Hatfields and McCoy's fought but I bet it all started because one of them bought an LCD and the other bought a plasma and one of them made the mistake of saying their TV had better picture quality than the other.![]()
K guys, going tomorrow. Going to put a thermometer on my 36 inch Sony tube. Then gonna take the same thermometer to BB and put it on comparable size LCD, PLASMA,LED. No its not scientific, its gee wizz.
I'll report back.
I'll tell you how to do this properly...think of the TV as similar to a dog. But instead of putting that thermometer up his butt, you find that little vent close to the HDMI input and push that baby in as far as you can get it to go. Look at your watch and wait approx. 2.5 minutes then yank it out as fast as possible. That should accurately tell you what you want to know.
I'll tell you how to do this properly...think of the TV as similar to a dog. But instead of putting that thermometer up his butt, you find that little vent close to the HDMI input and push that baby in as far as you can get it to go. Look at your watch and wait approx. 2.5 minutes then yank it out as fast as possible. That should accurately tell you what you want to know.
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K No thermometers in any dogs butt. My dogs are more important than my TV.
K Without any thermometers, the Sony 36" tube is warm but not hot. Way cooler then the Plasmas I've seen. Buy day is Sunday. 4 TV's. New post for that.
K No thermometers in any dogs butt. My dogs are more important than my TV.
K Without any thermometers, the Sony 36" tube is warm but not hot. Way cooler then the Plasmas I've seen. Buy day is Sunday. 4 TV's. New post for that.
I truly cannot believe we are even going to discuss this again. Sticking a thermometer on these thing will tell you next to nothing. For crying out loud search for the "heat" issue threads around. Simply put through science, 1 watt will put out 3.41btu/h (heat). So if the set uses x watts take and multiply by 3.41 and you will get how much heat is put out. It takes a lot more that a couple hundred watts to make a heater. The difference between the average displays is minute to the point of being no issue or sensible difference in the space. Unreal!!!!
I truly cannot believe we are even going to discuss this again. Sticking a thermometer on these thing will tell you next to nothing. For crying out loud search for the "heat" issue threads around. Simply put through science, 1 watt will put out 3.41btu/h (heat). So if the set uses x watts take and multiply by 3.41 and you will get how much heat is put out. It takes a lot more that a couple hundred watts to make a heater. The difference between the average displays is minute to the point of being no issue or sensible difference in the space. Unreal!!!!
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