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I have an Ideal Lume bias light on the back of my plasma.


I would like to be able to add this device to my Harmony 720 and use it in some activities. All need is to be able to turn it off/on.


I have an APC H15 power conditioner in my home theater that I'd ideally like to plug whatever solution I need into the back of so it's hidden.


I do however have 1 outlet available (my APC is plugged into it too) on the wall next to my home theater - although I'd prefer to not use it (just to keep things as clean as I can).


Here's a pic of my setup (the APC H15 in on the very bottom):
 

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Insteon is close to releasing a IR to Insteon plugin. Not sure if this also has a switch in it, or whether you also have to plugin an Insteon switch..


Then, your IR remote control could turn a device on / off.
 

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Thanks for the reply.


Could someone tell me exactly what I'd need if I threw in the towel and said "yes - I'll use a wall plug-in module"?


What I want to do is plug something like the X10 (or Insteon) into the wall - plug my APC unit into the "always on" outlet and my Bias Light into the switch outlet. That part seems simple enough.


What I need to know is what else I'll need to be able to "learn" the on/off command to my Harmony 720 remote. Or is that simply not possible?


Thanks in advance.
 

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 http://www.smarthome.com/2411r.html

http://www.smarthome.com/includes/sh...411rdgmbig.jpg


Generally, one should not put PowerLine technology devices plugged into a USP or power conditioner since their "job" is to clean the power line of such "noise" like what is used in a powerline communications technology.


If you are on the unfiltered side, possibly it will work, but still not recommended as these thing still tend to be "signal suckers".


The positive thing, is that you can then add an insteon smart switch onto the lights in the room to have Harmony control over those as well. And on and on until you have a fully automated home
 

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smoothtlk,


If I didn't want to wait for that IR solution - is there something currently available that will do what I want? I see a few of the wall modules have one outlet on the front that's "always on" and one on the bottom that's controlled by the remote.


I'm assuming I could plug my APC into the always on - and the Bias Light into the switched - but how would I "learn" the on/off command to my IR based Harmony remote? Or am I out of luck?
 

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"Easy to Set Up

IRLinc is compatible with most NEC-brand IR codes, which nearly guarantees your remote will work with it. IRLinc's talk-back LED allows you to identify easily which IR codes are compatible. After programming a compatible NEC code into your remote, IRLinc is easy to set up like other Smarthome-brand INSTEON products, using simple Plug-n-Tap setup."


There is also existing IR to X10 smartswitches, but if I were you, I would wait for Insteon if you ever think you might want to expand to more automated lights and control. Insteon is quite a bit more reliable signal than X10, though there will always be folks that say that x10 is great for them. Your odds however are much better with Insteon having good reliability. Not perfect reliability, but good enough (whatever that means to you).
 

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smoothtlk,


I have no real aspirations of ever controlling any lights but my bias light via remote. Also - even though that IR solution is nice - it being black would stick out like a sore thumb on my wall - the white X10 (and Insteon) would look better in my opinion (I have to please the wife as well).



Does Insteon have something similar to the X10 unit that would do what I want and allow me to use my Harmony IR remote?


Would this work? http://www.smarthome.com/2456s3.html - and if so - what else would I need to be able to program my Harmony to control it?


Am I correct in assuming I'd need this: http://www.smarthome.com/2456s3.html (to "learn" the codes to my Harmony) and this: http://www.smarthome.com/4005x.html (to convert or interpret the IR/RF codes for the module controlling my bias light) and this: http://www.smarthome.com/4040.html to convert the IR signals from my Harmony to a signal the X10 RF base can recognize?


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Yes, the http://www.smarthome.com/4040.html is the IR to X10 adapter I was mentioning earlier.


And, once having that, any X10 compatible Insteon devices can respond to those X10 commands that the IR > X10 device sends.


You can also use a cheaper X10 only appliance switch that comes in white. As low as $20 or so.


If you "never" anticipate going to more automation, that is a fine solution. It's only when you realize that this stuff makes it easier to enjoy your expensive hardware (plasma / theater setup), that you see the ROI.
 

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So I only need the Control Center and the Insteon device I posted above - or do I need all 4 of the items I posted? I'm obviously very confused as to exactly what I need to accomplish my goal.
 

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You need a device that can intercept your IR from the Harmony:


cheap and available today
http://www.smarthome.com/4040.html


OR: Better, more expensive (though still "cheap" relatively speaking), and not till next month

http://www.smarthome.com/2411r.html




That will get an "On / Off" command onto the AC powerline.



You then need something to "hear" that "On / Off" command and do something with it. In your case, that's to turn your light on and off.

http://www.smarthome.com/2456s3.html


You would plug your light into that device.
 

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And that's it? How do I "learn" the on/off command to my Harmony (or is that info in Harmony's database)?


That command console just plugs into a wall outlet then? Does it need to be in direct line of sight with my Harmony? If it does it's pretty big and ugly looking - is there any other option that is less obtrusive? If it could be plugged in behind a couch or something I could live with it though.
 
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