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I recently upgraded the rears in my home theater setup to a set of Definitive RSS III and this seems to have given me the bug to at least contemplate upgrade of my main and centers.


My setup is a room with some major constraints on placement. 90% of usage is for HT with occasional music listening, most of which is delivered via my Squeezebox or via Pandora from the Onkyo 818 that drives the setup.


I currently have a set of 15+ year old Boston VR950 speakers for mains. They are "okay" but I am just not feeling wowed by them. I have a matching VR series center and I have an Epik Empire as a subwoofer. One issue with the Bostons is that they have a front foot plinth that's a bit on the wide side, which inhibits me toeing them in a bit for better placement. It does have the advantage of making the speakers harder to knock over, which could be a concern with new speakers.


Considering auditioning the MartinLogan Motion 40s because they (like these Bostons) have a very narrow footprint. I really need to keep the width of the speaker, including any plinth, to a maximum of 8-9" as one of them is in a doorway area (see above comments on placement issues).


Very interested in any other recommendations.... again, if someone throws out a large speaker, I won't be able to consider it due to space constraints.


Layout can be seen in attached image. Many thanks.


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Okay, looks like Paradigm Monitor 9s are also a contender in this price range and would fit my space constraints. I would augment with the monitor 3 center if I went that route.
 

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I had been looking for a slim tower and there were a few that made my shortlist


NHT Absolute Tower ($1100/pr)

Cambridge Audio SL70

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Originally Posted by warpdrive  /t/1470710/slim-floorstanding-speaker-recommendations-martinlogan-motion-40-vs#post_23263424


I had been looking for a slim tower and there were a few that made my shortlist


NHT Absolute Tower ($1100/pr)

Cambridge Audio SL70

PSB Image T5

I agree with this list, except I'd substitute the Monitor Audio RX6 for the Cambridge audio model.
 

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Yeah, the quality on the Cambridge rears that I recently replaced was pretty marginal and actually they couldn't even sell me a replacement set of grills for them, so I will be steering free of Cambridge from here on out.


The RX6 looks like a great speaker but it is far too wide with the plinth for the doorway that you see in the photo. The speaker would be intruding into the door area itself and would surely result in some stubbed toes.
 

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Well, I will amend that last a bit. If I really really thought that a slightly wider speaker (like the RX6) was worth it, I could remove the baseboard in that spot which would give me another inch to work with.
 

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Ah, thanks for all of the additional recommendations. Looks like it might be quite difficult to find places to audition some of the more esoteric ones. I should also add that I'm trying to keep to a $2000 budget for LCR and will want to buy all three at once. It looks like that will put some of these (Songtowers for example and I imagine the Totem speakers) out of my price range.... I actually listened to some AudioPhysic speakers a year or two ago that were outstanding, and met my size requirements, but at $2500 for the pair plus another $800 for the center it was too much of a stretch (maybe if I ever have a dedicated theater/listening-room I can justify it).


The VR950 are actually pretty good (especially considering that I paid something like $500 for them 15 yrs ago), but the smaller VR series center I had to switch to in order to fit into the cabinet I have is underwhelming and I suspect I will get a very noticeable improvement by going with something more current that is probably quite a bit larger.
 

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Have you considered bookshelf speakers instead of floor standers? I.e. would using wall shelves (or mounts) with the LR mains gain you anything size wise? (Since most towers have bases that are larger/wider than the rest of the speaker.)


Another towers option in your price range: the Gallo Classico CL-3 towers and CL-C center. (The towers are only 7" wide, no base with extra width.)
http://www.roundsound.com/floor-standing-speakers/classico-cl-3-loudspeaker.html
http://www.roundsound.com/mini-monitor-speakers/classico-cl-c-loudspeaker.html


Gallo has a 60 day return policy, return shipping paid. They are a little under the radar but, to my ears, sound excellent. (There is a Gallo Acoustics Owners thread if you want more info.)
 

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Most def tech speakers aren't very wide



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The problem with Def Tech is that all of their better floorstanding models have low quality integrated subwoofers that I don't want to pay for, let alone power. My Empire crushes what those things can do.
 

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Have you considered bookshelf speakers instead of floor standers? I.e. would using wall shelves (or mounts) with the LR mains gain you anything size wise? (Since most towers have bases that are larger/wider than the rest of the speaker.)


Another towers option in your price range: the Gallo Classico CL-3 towers and CL-C center. (The towers are only 7" wide, no base with extra width.)
http://www.roundsound.com/floor-standing-speakers/classico-cl-3-loudspeaker.html
http://www.roundsound.com/mini-monitor-speakers/classico-cl-c-loudspeaker.html


Gallo has a 60 day return policy, return shipping paid. They are a little under the radar but, to my ears, sound excellent. (There is a Gallo Acoustics Owners thread if you want more info.)

I thought about going with bookshelfs, but the concern I have is that with stands they are going to get knocked over. Shelves will very possibly look strange sitting up on the walls as they would need to. Not to mention that many better quality bookshelf speakers are actually wider than towers.
 

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I had a similar problem. I needed to get a floorstander with a narrow footprint, and my Paradigm Monitor 7's work great. I demoed a few different speakers (Polk, HTD, Klipsch), but liked the Paradigms best.

You'd be amazed at the bass that these things can kick out from how small they are. Definitely impressive.

In your budget, you could swing the Monitor 9's and the Center 3. That would make for a fantastic LCR setup.
 

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I had a similar problem. I needed to get a floorstander with a narrow footprint, and my Paradigm Monitor 7's work great. I demoed a few different speakers (Polk, HTD, Klipsch), but liked the Paradigms best.

You'd be amazed at the bass that these things can kick out from how small they are. Definitely impressive.

In your budget, you could swing the Monitor 9's and the Center 3. That would make for a fantastic LCR setup.

I did have some older Paradigm speakers in my bedroom back when I was a bachelor and (for music) I really enjoyed the Paradigm sound. I still regret selling them when I moved into the current house with my wife 8 yrs ago. I am going to try to audition the Paradigms and MLs and maybe a few others this Saturday.
 

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I did have some older Paradigm speakers in my bedroom back when I was a bachelor and (for music) I really enjoyed the Paradigm sound. I still regret selling them when I moved into the current house with my wife 8 yrs ago. I am going to try to audition the Paradigms and MLs and maybe a few others this Saturday.

The Version 7's have an all-new design from the previous few models... Better looks, different driver materials. They have a very bright (crisp) sound to them and respond very well to EQ tweaks. Love them for movies and electronic & acoustic music.

I've heard some people complain about older Paradigms sounding a bit muddy/muffled. Whereas these newer ones are completely different.
 

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Philharmonic Audio is just beginning to come out with a slim tower speaker, 8.5" wide. Depending on your budget they should be considered.


I'm also a fan of Totem. This is the brand I was going to purchase before I learned of Philharmonic Audio speakers.
 

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Small update. I did get the opportunity to demo a few today. First I demoed the a monitor RX6 with matching silver center. I was perplexed after all of the great things I had heard as they sounded way too laid back to me. I really had to have them crank them up to get to a suitable listening level for movies and then they were fatiguing. This was a real letdown as I loved how they looked and the plinth would make them very stable in my location.


Next I went to audition the Paradigm Reference 9. Unfortunately this was a bust as the only dealer in the state recently moved out of their large showroom into a tiny retail space that is not even finished. Even if they set the speakers up for demo later as they have promised I am not optimistic about the experience as its going to be a ton of reverb in their demo area. They pointed out that the reference 7 and 9 are rear ported which would be a problem in my spot and tried to convince me that bookshelves on stands were the way to go.


Lastly I wound up at BB and demoed the "lowly" ML Motion 40 which sounded surprisingly good to me with a more open airy sound than I was expecting and the imaging was quite good. Unfortunately they only had the smaller Motion 8 center for demo.


I am hoping I can demo PSB, Focal and NHT speakers tomorrow.
 
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