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Slow motion software

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What slow motion software would you recommend for Windows XP with service pk2? I'm still very interested in the Cannon HV20 and not sure if slow motion effects are included in some of the software that is discussed here.

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Jake Ironshirt
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I'm a newbie but I've done slow motion in Sony Vegas. I have Windows XP SP2.
Slow motion works well with Ulead's Videostudio 9. But I think Sony is better software.

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I'm a newbie but I've done slow motion in Sony Vegas. I have Windows XP SP2.

Thanks for the reply pokerDawg, what version of Sony Vegas are you using? Is it a pretty simple work flow?

Thanks

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Slow motion works well with Ulead's Videostudio 9. But I think Sony is better software.

Thanks for the reply Cyrano I appreciate it, I also looked at the the Uleade 11-plus...lots of decisions and choices. I'm sure grateful that I can ask questions here and learn as I go. I would prefer one start to finish HD software program are there some that are more software driven rather than better hardware required?

Thanks

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Thanks for the reply pokerDawg, what version of Sony Vegas are you using? Is it a pretty simple work flow?

Thanks

Sony Vegas 7e.


Yeah, drag your high fps clip into the video track. Add the velocity envelop to the clip then move the line up and down to speed it up or slow it down. You can even add multiple points on one clip to increase and decrease the clip at different points in time.


Also, Vegas will quickly show you how the clip is lengthened or shortened on the track due to the velocity manipulation. It's really easy.
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Sony Vegas 7e.


Yeah, drag your high fps clip into the video track. Add the velocity envelop to the clip then move the line up and down to speed it up or slow it down. You can even add multiple points on one clip to increase and decrease the clip at different points in time.


Also, Vegas will quickly show you how the clip is lengthened or shortened on the track due to the velocity manipulation. It's really easy.

That sounds pretty good. The Ulead is one speed for the entire clip. I have to divide the clip into pieces to have different speeds.

Is there a variable speed option in Vegas (where it can gradually speed up or down)?


I assume you have the full Vegas 7(e). It is a bit spendy, isn't it? The Ulead is around $100. (I agree that you get what you pay for.)

I've done good work with the Ulead, but there were some problems when rendering that I had to solve. And it is frustrating to have spend many (many, many) hours on a project and almost not be able to see it come to life.



BTW: I also have XP SP2. I'm a little leary of using Vista with Video editing programs. Some people have had problems.
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Originally Posted by Cyrano /forum/post/0


That sounds pretty good. The Ulead is one speed for the entire clip. I have to divide the clip into pieces to have different speeds.

Is there a variable speed option in Vegas (where it can gradually speed up or down)?

Yes. There are multiple ways (and speeds) of fading in and out into a velocity point.

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Originally Posted by Cyrano /forum/post/0


I assume you have the full Vegas 7(e). It is a bit spendy, isn't it? The Ulead is around $100. (I agree that you get what you pay for.)

I get a discount for the software from where I work but the price is not much cheaper than getting it from VideoGuys. I'm not sure of the feature difference between the version.s I would hope this velocity was in the mid level product.

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Originally Posted by Cyrano /forum/post/0


I've done good work with the Ulead, but there were some problems when rendering that I had to solve. And it is frustrating to have spend many (many, many) hours on a project and almost not be able to see it come to life.

That's the nature of video editing isn't it?
I try not to preview or prerender anything while I put something together or else time is spent waiting. Measure twice and cut once kinda mentaility.....but I'm still all new to this.

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BTW: I also have XP SP2. I'm a little leary of using Vista with Video editing programs. Some people have had problems.

Yeah.....I'm not touching it. I used Windows 2000 for years before getting into XP.....old fashion I suppose.
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I get a discount for the software from where I work but the price is not much cheaper than getting it from VideoGuys. I'm not sure of the feature difference between the version.s I would hope this velocity was in the mid level product.

There is a Sony vegas suite which omits some of the features. I have this from Vegas 6. I haven't worked with it yet. I will.

The suite cost around $100.


Videoguys has Vegas 7 for $475. I can get it cheaper elsewhere as I work for a non-profit.

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That's the nature of video editing isn't it?
I try not to preview or prerender anything while I put something together or else time is spent waiting. Measure twice and cut once kinda mentaility.....but I'm still all new to this.

I don't know about Vegas 7 (I think it's the same) but Ulead doesn't prerender anything while you're editing. And the original video file is untouched.

But I do want to see what I'm doing while I'm doing it. The preview (to see flow and just "if it works well - tells the story") is not full res.


It would be sad to work on a piece for 100 hours and not be able to see it. And I mean see it in full res from a DVD on one's 100" projection screen.

It is incredible to see what it is possible to create these days. Technology is pretty amazing.
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 Realviz's Retimer is what pros use when it's needed to slow down a shot in post...


Check the gallery.. some pretty cool examples...


BTW... really expensive... IRCC there's a plugin for After Effects and Premiere that does this kind of slowmo... but I don't remember its name.

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BTW... really expensive... IRCC there's a plugin for After Effects and Premiere that does this kind of slowmo... but I don't remember its name.

Twixtor.


Very good results, but can take a bit of time to render.

http://www.revisionfx.com/products/twixtor/
Adobe After Effects, no question about it. RealViz ReTimer is super-expensive. AFter Effects does true re-timing (interpolated frames) which means it can build new "in-between" pixels... essentially it creates new frames. This creates sharper and smoother slow-mo than Vegas can even with "best" settings. Adobe Premier CS3 is still in beta, but it will also feature advanced slow motion and re-timing.


As to a previous post... After Effects does this without any additional plug-ins. Same will be true for Premier CS3... no plug-in.


Vegas does a decent job of slow-mo, but it simply isn't true interpolated slow-mo.
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