Cmon, this is just showing your bias and agenda. I'm pretty sure he just is really happy with his Lutron system, but who cares if he also does something for a living? It has nothing to do with the facts and arguments supporting the value of what a Lutron system brings to the table.Do you make an income installing and servicing these devices? Based on what you and others have said in response to my quest for data it seems as though this may be the case which may explain why Lutron is "just better" much in the same way HVAC experts dismiss self-installed minisplits.
We do know that. Lutron is very different than any other company in the space. They are the 800-lb gorilla in high end lighting with the patents and product line across many different markets, segments, all across the world. As for them exiting the residential market, their founder invented the first solid state dimmer in 1959, along with Lutron releasing the first IR controlled dimmer, first linear slide dimmer, first whole-home lighting control system, first customizable dimming system for different light sources, and the first 2-Way RF whole home lighting control system, etc etc....You say "Lutron isn't going anywhere" but you don't know that. Larger & smaller entities alike have exited the Home Automation segment and left LOTS of people out in the cold with their investments. You also can't tell me that if they fold that your investment will continue working because it won't. Without Lutron servers your $60 smart switch becomes at $0.99 dumb switch.
You have been repeatedly told what people who buy Lutron are paying for. Yet, you continue to say "all those things don't matter to me, so what am I paying for?". That's great for you, however, you do not represent everyone in the world and many people have different needs and preferences and would benefit from the features that have been repeatedly mentioned.I see zero places that Lutron can improve my system so yeah... it comes down to cost. What am I paying for? Lack of competition and a proprietary protocol that will simply go away if Lutron ever goes under? Doesn't seem like a wise investment to me. When I ask someone why they do something and they can't give me a solid reasons as to why it's a better method than just "It's how we've always done it" I have a hard time accepting that as a real answer. When you tell me "It's just better in every way" and my system isn't deficient in any area... I kind of lump this into the same categorical answer. I don't seem to be getting tangible benefits in your "comparison" so let me take this conversation another way to try to explain your stance....
Calling people "fanbois" adds a lot to every discussion. Also ignoring literally every point I methodically made seems about right.The Lutron fanbois in this thread are nearly overwhelming. Nearly.
LOL, I think your posts would disagreeExcept I'm far from ignorant to this topic.
I read through the whole topic, and I think you made some good points for someone setting up a DIY system. You know what you want, and you found a product that works for you.Except I'm far from ignorant to this topic.
Update to this thread. I did go ahead with Zooz and a Hubitat hub. I made the purchase before most of the back and forth that came later on in the thread.The Lutron fanbois in this thread are nearly overwhelming. Nearly.