So much information! Can I paint my wall?

You pretty much already answered your question. Your walls are reflecting projected light. Your existing screen is simply doing what it should, but being suppressed by it's own reflections.


You can mitgate it some by using a Gray, but unless it's a high gain gray that directs more light forward than to the sides, it too will suffer some degradation from reflected light coming off the walls.


Best case? Go with as simple a "reflective positive gain Gray" you think you can manage, and ALSO do something to address the reflections from your closest Walls/Ceiling surfaces. Paint 'em or cover 'em....but do something.


Do both things as suggested and your viewing experience will improve dramatically.


BTW...a accurate assesment is impossible to give without knowing;

• Type of PJ & Placement
• Room dimensions
• Screen size desired
• Exact wall colors
• Distance of Screen from side walls/ceiling

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Also, unless your wall has noticable defects, it can serve nicely as a screen surface. However when using any high contrast oriented paint, defects you cannot see under normal light on light, flat sheened walls become apparent once the wall is painted using a HC-Gray.


Use the Thrifty White and no such issues exist. The only limitation is your restricted in potential screen size to 98" diagonal (85" x 48") in 16:9 format.



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Originally Posted by MississippiMan /forum/post/18099982


You pretty much already answered your question. Your walls are reflecting projected light. Your existing screen is simply doing what it should, but being suppressed by it's own reflections.


You can mitgate it some by using a Gray, but unless it's a high gain gray that directs more light forward than to the sides, it too will suffer some degradation from reflected light coming off the walls.


Best case? Go with as simple a "reflective positive gain Gray" you think you can manage, and ALSO do something to address the reflections from your closest Walls/Ceiling surfaces. Paint 'em or cover 'em....but do something.


Do both things as suggested and your viewing experience will improve dramatically.


BTW...a accurate assesment is impossible to give without knowing;

• Type of PJ & Placement
• Room dimensions
• Screen size desired
• Exact wall colors
• Distance of Screen from side walls/ceiling

.

Also, unless your wall has noticable defects, it can serve nicely as a screen surface. However when using any high contrast oriented paint, defects you cannot see under normal light on light, flat sheened walls become apparent once the wall is painted using a HC-Gray.


Use the Thrifty White and no such issues exist. The only limitation is your restricted in potential screen size to 98" diagonal (85" x 48") in 16:9 format.

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Thanks so much for the feedback.


---I just ordered a Benq W1000 so I'm expecting a lot of horsepower compared to my old PE7700. So maybe I don't need positive gain??


---My room is 10x20 and I set about 9 feet back from the screen. So it's a narrow room and both side walls actually are pinched in more than 10 feet (duct work) so the walls are very very close to the screen


---I have a 92" matte white screen right now, and that is about as big as I can go in this room...maybe a few inches larger, so the thrifty white size is perfect.


---Wall colors are tan (med to light tan) and ceiling is white. I don't know if I will be able to change these much as there are 'spousal' considerations plus this is a room that is used for other activities so I cannot just do what I want with the colors on the walls. I know this is not ideal, but might be reality. I might be able to paint the walls a darker shade of tan, but that ceiling will probably have to say white....sigh...


---The screen is a few inches from the walls where it pinches in for the duct work near the ceiling and maybe 2 feet from the walls otherwise. The screen is pretty close the ceiling also, but if I made my own I could lower it a bit, etc.


---There is usually a bit of ambient light in this room when viewing, so I think gray would help in that regard also...


One more note... I'm very susceptible to Silkscreen Effect or 'sparkles'... so I'm not sure how that plays itself out when considering a paint mixture or not, but thought I'd let you know.


----Also, could I paint my existing matte white screen? I usually don't roll it up.. in fact, I never roll it up.



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Originally Posted by threed123 /forum/post/18106628


Frankly, I wouldn't do anything until you get your Benq W1000. It will be a LOT brighter. See what it does to your 92" matte screen. I have a painted 145" BOC screen and a Mits HC3800--close to the Benq in brightness, and I get a good image in low lamp mode--my screen is probably 1.2-1.4 gain no sparklies. My ceiling is white and walls are medium tan paneling. I'm thinking you could handle a much darker gray on that small size of a screen and therefore get better blacks in an ambient light room.

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Yes I will wait before doing anything as I keep reading the W1000 is really bright even in Eco mode...esp. since I cannot go much bigger than 92". I might have to make up some test panels to see 'how gray' I can go.


I just hope I don't see too many rainbows =)


The one thing that makes me think I *must* go with some type of gray screen is that there is ambient light on often when viewing and when I compared the matte white screen vs. projecting onto my light tan wall, there was a significant improvement in handling of ambient light with the tan wall, etc.



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I see no reason to "wait" to see what will happen with the new combo....that seems very obvious. A brighter image...more reflections....more of everything, with some of it being detrimental.


I too think a NG7.5 surface is called for. I'm brainstorming over a paint that will include just enough of the proper metallic content to keep whites at a appreciable level without causing the dreaded sparkles.


And yes...painting the side walls as dark a flat tan as your allowed is going to be essential.


I'll get back to you soon with a formula. Right now I'm in the middle o9f a Blizzard in NJ.

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Hey much appreciated. I have to assume right now that I will not be able to paint anything and if I can paint the walls a darker shade of brown, it will be a bit of a bonus. Plus, that dreaded ceiling will remain white.... I was thinking of some type of 'hood' that protrudes out from right above the screen level (maybe in the form of bookshelves?)....painted very dark brown flat , etc... what do you think


I'm in NY and we're getting KILLED with snow right now. =)


I look forward to your formula!! Thanks!