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so smaller TV’s like 55 inches have better picture?

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Ok, so I always knew that smaller TV’s didn’t show the problems as much. A smaller image means it’s not as easy to see all the details, with all other variables held constant.

Its the same as a person who is 100 feet away and the same person 20 feet away. Within reason, sound follows the same pattern.

So when comparing apples to oranges, I always understood,

However.... I guess I thought that all sizes of the same model was kind of like comparing apples to apples, I figured the 55a90j and the 65a90j and the 83a90j would all look the same, but just larger or smaller.

But now people are telling me the 55a90j will be better than the 83a90j. I just assumed the extra $5000 USD was being paid not only for the larger size, but also for the ability for Sony to replicate the same quality at a larger size.

In this case, if I’m on the fence between a 65” OLED or a 75” LED, the OLED not only has better picture quality at the same size, but it will be even more pronounced when I drop down to a 65” size.

Is this correct? (In that case I feel much better about getting the 65” and sitting a bit closer.)
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It all depends on what the resolution of the material you are watching is. At 4K, the 83 will look just as good as the 55". If you are watching 480i DVDs, the 55" will look a lot better than the 83". Viewing distance will also make a difference. I found for regular cable TV fare (mix of 720p and 1080p), the 75" would should up more artifacts than the 65" at 10', but 4K looked perfect on both.
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There are the same number of pixels on the screen regardless of the size of the screen. Therefore, the smaller the screen, the closer the pixels are to one another. The further away from the screen you sit, the bigger the picture can be because you can't see the pixels from further away.

Think about looking at a 24" 4K monitor two feet in front of you vs a large TV 8 feet away from you.

If you're sitting the proper distance from the TV based on the size of the TV a 65" and a 75" should have similar pictures.

Most people don't rearrange their furniture to fit their TV. They buy a TV to fit the viewing distance in their room.
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Whenever I look at tvs in stores and I see 55 and up the 55 has always looked more crisp to me compared to the larger sizes. Larger sizes look good don't get me wrong but it's just a big ass beautiful picture whereas the 55s are sharper looking beautiful pictures that look more tight. That's just my opinion
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Pixel density is all about the resolution in relationship to the size of the display. An 83 inch 4k (53.08 pixels per inch) screen will have a lower pixel density than the 55" 4k(80 ppi) screen. In fact, the 83" 4k will have a lower pixel density than a 24" 1080p monitor(91.79ppi). What does this all mean in real world application? You can sit further away from the screen with a larger display and still perceive the same detail as sitting closer to a smaller display. This is why apple marketed the whole "retina" display thing. Your phone screen has a high pixel density but it's probably not a 4k screen.
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There are the same number of pixels on the screen regardless of the size of the screen. Therefore, the smaller the screen, the closer the pixels are to one another. The further away from the screen you sit, the bigger the picture can be because you can't see the pixels from further away.

Think about looking at a 24" 4K monitor two feet in front of you vs a large TV 8 feet away from you.

If you're sitting the proper distance from the TV based on the size of the TV a 65" and a 75" should have similar pictures.

Most people don't rearrange their furniture to fit their TV. They buy a TV to fit the viewing distance in their room.
Thanks for analogy and info.
Most people don't rearrange their furniture to fit their TV. They buy a TV to fit the viewing distance in their room.
It seems I’m strange then, which I’m ok with. I do think a lot of movie and tv enthusiasts unconsciously do start with the tv though.

In my opinion, you say your comment because society has already conditioned most people to center your living room around a TV. If there was no TV, almost everyone would have furniture set up very differently, and it would be a lot nicer room to sit in. I believe people here with no TV in their living room would agree. Chairs and long couches would go more into the middle of an area facing windows and the light, and you certainly wouldn’t sit facing a long blank wall and then say, “hmmm, I think a TV would go well here so that I don’t just have to stare at the paint.” Chairs would face each other in a style that would encourage communication and the ability to look at people.

In my current situation, I can move my wide 10-foot couch back to a distance of around 15 feet. This would allow for a couple other nice seats, and then a large TV. However, what size TV would everyone on this forum say you need for 15 feet? So now, my couch has been moved in to 8.75 feet, and I have rearranged the room to provide a second seating area at the other end of the room that is not focused on the TV, and instead takes advantage of the view. I also set up a 6-foot-long dining table directly behind my couch to use as a workspace and eating area that will be facing directly at whatever TV I get. Because it is directly behind the couch, it is not like an island with all 4 sides available for chairs, unless I pull it back off the couch if guests come over.

I recently looked for a new apartment, and when I did, the primary consideration was the layout of the living room and whether I could have a nice TV-viewing area. If not, that apartment was not up for consideration anymore. I start with where the TV will go, and then design the rest of the area based on that. If the design doesn’t work, then that apartment/house won’t work either. Houses are slightly different because they often have the opportunity for a dedicated entertainment area of some sort.

You might be correct that a lot of people don’t consider a nice TV area as a deal breaker, but I do it consciously because I want to enjoy it, and setting my home up for guests becomes secondary at best.

Also, many people on this forum have dedicated home-theater rooms or entertainment areas, so I would say they set their house up with that idea. Nobody purposely wants to go hang out in the basement when they have a nice living room, unless it’s because they strategically designed to put a big TV down there. I’m quite sure they didn’t have a bunch of couches set up there before the TV arrived. Hehe. They are fortunate to have that space though. In that case, I also believe the TV becomes the first consideration.

Anyways, just my opinion. I guess I’m different.
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Whenever I look at tvs in stores and I see 55 and up the 55 has always looked more crisp to me compared to the larger sizes. Larger sizes look good don't get me wrong but it's just a big ass beautiful picture whereas the 55s are sharper looking beautiful pictures that look more tight. That's just my opinion
Ok, so I do understand your point. I just don’t know how to utilize a 55-inch TV. I have to sit so close to it. Also, it’s not as immersive, right? Wanting to get a smaller TV will be cheaper for me. I’d be quite happy for that. It will also mean I can get a nice OLED. But I don’t know where I should put it or for what purpose. If it’s primarily for gaming, maybe people put it in a second room and sit close. Unfortunately, that means I don‘t sit in my living room. I have trouble thinking of coming home to a nice living room and then going into some other smaller room just to play games. Why wouldn’t I want to play in the living room? Unfortunately, that requires a really large TV, and I can’t afford it if I want it to be high quality. I’m not rich. If I start with a good 55” in the living room, 2 things will happen. One, it will take a long time to save up for the large TV. Two, the high-quality 55” will actually cost a fair bit and set me back even farther. To offset this problem, I should get a “regular” 55-inch, which will cost a lot less. Then I’m sitting in my living with a small TV and not even a good one. :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL:
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All TVs are small. I'd always go as big as you can. If you are thinking of going smaller to have a better picture, may as well just watch on your phone.
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You get more pixels for a given surface area, so all else equal, the smaller display will look better. Having said that, I have a 43" UHD TV and UHD content looks as sharp as HD content on my old 60" plasma. So the sharper image may not be noticeable.
All TVs are small. I'd always go as big as you can. If you are thinking of going smaller to have a better picture, may as well just watch on your phone.
I‘m in between a 65” OLED (maybe A80J) and a 75-inch LED (maybe X90J), with the LED saving an extra $300.

Thats why I was asking about smaller tv’s and their PQ.
It seems I’m strange then, which I’m ok with. I do think a lot of movie and tv enthusiasts unconsciously do start with the tv though..
What I meant was that most people don't intentionally buy a smaller TV and then move their furniture closer to the TV, if that's not is appropriate for the room. If the seating area doesn't have to be close to the TV, they buy a large TV. If the seating area needs to be closer to the TV, they buy a smaller TV that's appropriate for the viewing distance. Some people will buy a larger TV than is appropriate for their viewing distance. Fewer people do the opposite.
What I meant was that most people don't intentionally buy a smaller TV and then move their furniture closer to the TV, if that's not is appropriate for the room. If the seating area doesn't have to be close to the TV, they buy a large TV. If the seating area needs to be closer to the TV, they buy a smaller TV that's appropriate for the viewing distance. Some people will buy a larger TV than is appropriate for their viewing distance. Fewer people do the opposite.
For me, I want OLED. Unfortunately I can’t afford the 77-inch. Therefore I have to choose between a 65-inch OLED or a 75-inch LED. I know the OLED is a better TV, but it’s smaller and actually costs more. However, I am fortunate to be able to move my couch closer to or farther from the TV, because the living room is open and adjoining a supposed dining room area. It’s one big long room, so there is no wall behind the couch for the TV area. I will set up the entire room how I want, without worrying about how it was probably designed from the viewpoint of a traditional layout.

Therefore, I’m not intentionally wanting a smaller TV, but budget is giving me a choice to make, and unfortunately I know the smaller 65-inch will have better picture. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, it’s smaller. :-(
I went from a 75" QLED to a 65" OLED when the QLED broke. I sit 12 feet from the TV. I have no regrets. If you can move the furniture closer to accommodate the TV, all the better.
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I would take a good 75" fald over a 65" OLED. OLED is better, but not enough to make up for a much larger screen. I mostly watch sports, news and sitcoms. Things that don't benefit as much with OLED.
A 80'' model might not be the same as the 50'' version of that model so always check out the specific model at the size you are interested in. 65'' OLEDs seem to have more issues than 55'' OLED also issues will be more vissible at larger sizes. At larger sizes the experience is bigger..advise is to go as big as you can handle.
Short answer: Yes. Now where's the 42 inch OLED!?!? lol
For me I am the exact opposite. I have a large LG OLED wall mounted in the living room. I managed to pick up a PS5 on launch day and play big single player games. So I picked the smaller bedroom, ordered a loveseat, hung some pictures, added a side table, chair and it's nice. It's basically a small living room. I don't want to worry about static HUDS and that room has a lot of light. I know I could block the light like in my living room but I don't want to. I like that everything is in that one room. I like being able to close the door to keep my long hair cat out when I'm not in there.
I went from a 75" QLED to a 65" OLED when the QLED broke. I sit 12 feet from the TV. I have no regrets. If you can move the furniture closer to accommodate the TV, all the better.
Yep, and I sit a “perfect” 12.5’ from my 110” screen.
Perfect. 😎
My Living room WALL is only 125"
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