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Anyone have experience with both? Thoughts on how they compare?
Sonos Vs. Squeezebox Touch
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Well, the Squeezebox was discontinued more than a year ago, so there's one comparison...
A comparison would probably be between the Squeezebox Touch and the Sonos Connect with any Android tablet as a controller. The biggest difference in usage is that you can control the Sonos from anywhere with a mobile device. The Squeezebox primarily through the touchscreen / simple IR remote. There have been apps made to control Squeezebox devices, so you can probably get close to the same usage model - but why bother?
Unless you already have a Squeezebox - go the Sonos route. Current product, in active development, beats similarly-priced, similarly-functioned, discontinued product almost every time...
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A comparison would probably be between the Squeezebox Touch and the Sonos Connect with any Android tablet as a controller. The biggest difference in usage is that you can control the Sonos from anywhere with a mobile device. The Squeezebox primarily through the touchscreen / simple IR remote. There have been apps made to control Squeezebox devices, so you can probably get close to the same usage model - but why bother?
Unless you already have a Squeezebox - go the Sonos route. Current product, in active development, beats similarly-priced, similarly-functioned, discontinued product almost every time...
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Agreed 100% there
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I did read too that perhaps at some point in the near future, their server would likely stop offering some of the streaming services, so that is another issue you could potentially run into.
I know for sure that Sonos can do flac and alac files, and pretty sure in 24/192
Agreed 100% there
I know for sure that Sonos can do flac and alac files, and pretty sure in 24/192
For sure Sonos can't do more than 16 bit resolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by beastaudio /t/1517244/sonos-vs-squeezebox-touch/0_100#post_24343439
Agreed 100% thereI did read too that perhaps at some point in the near future, their server would likely stop offering some of the streaming services, so that is another issue you could potentially run into.![]()
I know for sure that Sonos can do flac and alac files, and pretty sure in 24/192
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Squeezeboxes have always had many ways to control them, the IOS apps are great. What you can't do with a sonos is build a player with a cheap arm device like a pogo plug or raspberry pi. I don't get the Sonos hype.
Squeezeboxes have always had many ways to control them, the IOS apps are great. What you can't do with a sonos is build a player with a cheap arm device like a pogo plug or raspberry pi. I don't get the Sonos hype.
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I did the same thing when I bought my Logitech Squeezeboxes, I Plugged them in and they worked.
The huge advantage with Squeezebox players is anyone can make one and then control it with
an easy to use app like iPeng or Squeezepad or just about any home automation system.
I didn't have to build my own players, I did it because I could. With iPeng even an iPod or
IPad can be a player.
I still don't get what is supposed to be so great about Sonos.
I did the same thing when I bought my Logitech Squeezeboxes, I Plugged them in and they worked.
The huge advantage with Squeezebox players is anyone can make one and then control it with
an easy to use app like iPeng or Squeezepad or just about any home automation system.
I didn't have to build my own players, I did it because I could. With iPeng even an iPod or
IPad can be a player.
I still don't get what is supposed to be so great about Sonos.
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Except you can still find them for sale, so that's not true.
Except you can still find them for sale, so that's not true.
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What I see is that you can still buy Squeezeboxes so your comment that you would "have to build the solution" is not true.
This is my last comment for this thread, as the OP got the info he was looking for.
If you can find a discontinued product for sale somewhere, great, you don't have to build a solution. But you started your responses talking about building a solution using Raspberry Pi and the various software component, which is a completely different (but totally valid) path. I tried answering both points, but they've gotten mixed together.
This is my last comment for this thread, as the OP got the info he was looking for.
If you can find a discontinued product for sale somewhere, great, you don't have to build a solution. But you started your responses talking about building a solution using Raspberry Pi and the various software component, which is a completely different (but totally valid) path. I tried answering both points, but they've gotten mixed together.
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I've actually been enjoying the chat. I think both can easily be argued "for" but in my particular case, I went ahead and got the Sonos connect, as I like it's scale-ability throughout the house
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I had SB in my house, had 2 radios and a Duet. I found the SB software a bit tempermental at times with losing connections to services, having to reinstall services, just refusing to sync between radios, etc. Mind you, most of the time it worked fine, it was just spotty sometimes.
I have recently moved, added Control4 to my house and needed more integration and zones, so I swapped over to Sonos. Even w/o the C4 integration, the Sonos app, services and user programming just seems easier, its more stable, etc.
Does not matter for everyone, but I believe SB uses your wifi, whereas Sonos creates its own "mesh" network to put less strain on your wifi/network.
And as it has been said, SB is discontinued. They have another product now, but its only a radio, and it lost some features too - its called UE Smart Radio or something (UE = Ultimate Ears, a label they recently purchased).
If I had to invest in one platform now from the start, it would be Sonos, hands down.
I have recently moved, added Control4 to my house and needed more integration and zones, so I swapped over to Sonos. Even w/o the C4 integration, the Sonos app, services and user programming just seems easier, its more stable, etc.
Does not matter for everyone, but I believe SB uses your wifi, whereas Sonos creates its own "mesh" network to put less strain on your wifi/network.
And as it has been said, SB is discontinued. They have another product now, but its only a radio, and it lost some features too - its called UE Smart Radio or something (UE = Ultimate Ears, a label they recently purchased).
If I had to invest in one platform now from the start, it would be Sonos, hands down.
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I was not just trying to be argumentative, I just wanted to make sure the O.P. knew you could still buy new Squeezeboxes. The fact that you can build your own is just a plus and allows you to add more players in the future if you can no longer find a Squeezebox for sale or if you like doing things yourself.
I was not just trying to be argumentative, I just wanted to make sure the O.P. knew you could still buy new Squeezeboxes. The fact that you can build your own is just a plus and allows you to add more players in the future if you can no longer find a Squeezebox for sale or if you like doing things yourself.
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Just for full disclosure, I run LMS on a pogo plug and all my squeezeboxes are hardwired on a managed switch, I have not experienced the problems you had. I tried syncing Squeezeboxes just to try it and it worked fine for me, I have my Squeezeboxes in a centrally located equipment closet hooked to a whole home audio system so I sync through it.
I believe the UE Radio can be flashed with Squeezebox firmware to make it a Squeezebox Radio.
Just for full disclosure, I run LMS on a pogo plug and all my squeezeboxes are hardwired on a managed switch, I have not experienced the problems you had. I tried syncing Squeezeboxes just to try it and it worked fine for me, I have my Squeezeboxes in a centrally located equipment closet hooked to a whole home audio system so I sync through it.
I believe the UE Radio can be flashed with Squeezebox firmware to make it a Squeezebox Radio.
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Wayne - the work you are doing is great for the DIY, but if you are talking about the masses, easy set up, WAF, etc, Sonos will win over SB. I had a 2300 sq ft 3 level house with the 3 SB's on different floors (1 was hard wired, 2 were wireless) and again, 95% of the time they were fine, but they did crap out a few times, give me issues, etc. Even then I did recommend them to a few people because price point/entry was cheap.
now that sonos has added the Play series of speakers, SB is discontinued (and I guess so is UE Radio, that is new to me) I cant see how SB really gives sonos a run for its money. That's all.
now that sonos has added the Play series of speakers, SB is discontinued (and I guess so is UE Radio, that is new to me) I cant see how SB really gives sonos a run for its money. That's all.
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I've had Squeezebox Duet with two receivers for the past 5 years and was mostly happy, until the receiver in my bedroom died. I cannot find a used replacement receiver anywhere. There's a few Duets with remotes on eBay, and if I can get one for $150 that might be okay. However, if something else fails it'll be a waste of money if I eventually have to give up on the system and migrate to Sonos.
Here are the things I don't like about Squeezebox that I wonder if Sonos improves on:
1) There used to be an app that let you stream music from the Squeezecenter directly from your computer to a stereo without an extra Squeezebox receiver. That was no longer supported after software updates a few years ago, which is stupid. So I can't have music in the office synched with the rest of the house. Does Sonos have that option?
2) Squeezecenter doesn't support Spotify, though a janky 3rd party app sort of works.
3) My Mediamonkey player in office and at work has a nice "Analyze Volume" feature that allows it to normalize the output so that my speakers are not blown by huge differences in volume between songs. Squeezebox supposedly does that too but it sucks at it. How about Sonos?
4) I had buffering issues now and then that drove me nuts. How does Sonos work with proprietary wifi. Does that mean it doesn't need to use my router at all and has its own transmitter?
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