[salvador_dali]

I tried the sound and vision calibration settings and am getting better shadow detail in cable sdr content, but it may be technically (measured by the camera versus my uneven eye) incorrect on my display.

 

[spongebob]

I tried the sound and vision calibration settings and am getting better shadow detail in cable sdr content, but it may be technically (measured by the camera versus my uneven eye) incorrect on my display.

Link to that?

 

[salvador_dali]

	HD/SDR	UHD/HDR
Picture mode	Custom	Custom
Auto picture mode	Off	Off
Light sensor	Off	---
Advanced settings
Brightness
Brightness	35	Max
Contrast:	92	92
Gamma:	-2	0
Black level:	50	50
Black adjust:	Off	Off
Adv. contrast enhancer:	Off	Off
Peak luminance	Medium	High
Color
Color:	50	50
Hue:	0	0
Color temperature:	Expert 1	Expert 1
Adv. color temperature

2-point not used (SDR and HDR)
10-point (SDR and HDR)*

		1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10
	Red offset	0	0	0	1	1	3	0	0	-2	1
	Green offset	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0
	Blue offset	0	0	0	-3	0	0	0	0	0	0

Live color

Off

Off

Per color adjustment (SDR and HDR)*

	R	G	B	C	M	Y
Hue	2	-3	0	0	7	-7
Saturation	-3	-8	0	0	-5	-9
Lightness	0	0	0	0	0	5

Clarity
Sharpness	50	50
Reality Creation	Off	Off
Random Noise Reduction	Off	Off
Digital Noise Reduction	Off	Of
Smooth gradation	Off	Off
Motion
Motionflow	Off	Off
Cinemotion	Off	Off
Video options
HDR mode	Auto	Auto
HDMI video range	Auto	Auto
Color space	Auto	Auto

Link to that?

 

[salvador_dali]

I think the luminance difference with the gamma change is probably the most notable difference. Also green intensity seems to be lowered too.

 

[spongebob]

Because they don’t intend you to use the 2 point if you are using the 20 point.


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What threw me Tyler was D-Nice's settings in the owner's thread having 2 point and 10 point settings. I'm assuming that's OK for 10 point but not for 20 point?

 

[WiFi-Spy]

What threw me Tyler was D-Nice's settings in the owner's thread having 2 point and 10 point settings. I'm assuming that's OK for 10 point but not for 20 point?

Officially we recommend never using the two point. He disagrees, That being said you can use whatever you want , you just need to understand the consequences and what happens to the other picture modes that share that color temperature preset.


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[spongebob]

Officially we recommend never using the two point. He disagrees, That being said you can use whatever you want , you just need to understand the consequences and what happens to the other picture modes that share that color temperature preset.


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Could you explain that a little further?

thx

 

[salvador_dali]

I would assume if you left 2 point intact you would have to calibrate “further” in every other 10 or 20 value. I am guessing that the finer adjustments may take longer then.

@WiFi-Spy how onerous is the calibration with the kit? Can the tv communicate with the calibration camera and self adjust or is that technically impossible?

 

[spongebob]

I would assume if you left 2 point intact you would have to calibrate “further” in every other 10 or 20 value. I am guessing that the finer adjustments may take longer then.

@WiFi-Spy how onerous is the calibration with the kit? Can the tv communicate with the calibration camera and self adjust or is that technically impossible?

D-Nice explained it as 2 point is "coarse" and multipoint is fine adjustment. In my case, I want color temp exp 1 to be D-65 and exp 2 to be an AWP. If they shared the same coarse basic setting, I'm assuming that the multipoint would have a harder time correcting the 2 point if at all. Plus I might like color temp exp 2 to be D-75 or even further from D-65.

bob

 

[WiFi-Spy]

I would assume if you left 2 point intact you would have to calibrate “further” in every other 10 or 20 value. I am guessing that the finer adjustments may take longer then.

@WiFi-Spy how onerous is the calibration with the kit? Can the tv communicate with the calibration camera and self adjust or is that technically impossible?

Here is a tutorial video of the process:

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[spongebob]

Here is a tutorial video of the process:

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For those of us not doing autocal or CM Home, does your 2pt vs multipoint advise still apply? (Manual cal w Chromapure or HCFR, etc)

bob

 

[salvador_dali]

Not sure but if the video showed would you need to reset and leave them as 2 point as default and then work on expert 1 and 2 gamut separately?

D-Nice explained it as 2 point is "coarse" and multipoint is fine adjustment. In my case, I want color temp exp 1 to be D-65 and exp 2 to be an AWP. If they shared the same coarse basic setting, I'm assuming that the multipoint would have a harder time correcting the 2 point if at all. Plus I might like color temp exp 2 to be D-75 or even further from D-65.

bob

 

[salvador_dali]

Super sleek. The cost seems to more than double the display! I am guessing there is no way to rent the generator and camera?

Here is a tutorial video of the process:

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[spongebob]

Super sleek. The cost seems to more than double the display! I am guessing there is no way to rent the generator and camera?

Yeah, I wa hoping to keep this more generic, not just Calman based. There is a thread for that.

 

[nadavrut]

Have someone performed a 20p Calibration for his set and cares to share his settings?

 

[Rolls-Royce]

Check the owner's thread for that model over in the "OLED Technologies" area. Or rtings.com. Or CNET.com.

 

[spongebob]

From:

sorinelionut




Picture Mode: Expert 1 and Expert 2

Brightness Menu
Brightness: 18 Expert 1(100 nits muvie standard) and 36 for Expert2 (150 nits abl limit)
Contrast: 90
Gamma: 0
Black Level: 50/(for hdmi 49)
Black ADJ: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Peak Luminance: Medium

Color Menu
Color: 50
Color Temp: Expert
Live Color: Off

Clarity Menu 50
Reality Creation: Manual
Resolution: max 20, how you like, limit is 20
Smooth Gradation: Low

Motion Menu
Motionflow: Custom
Smoothness: 2 or 1
Clearness: 2 or 1
CineMotion: Auto

ADV Color Temperature Menu

ADV Color Temperature Basic (2p white)
R-Gain: -2
G-Gain: Max
B-Gain: -1
R-Bias: 0
G-Bias: 0
B-Bias: 0


ADV Color Temperature Multi Point (20p)
Point 1
2
-6
0

Point 2
3
-2
0

Point 3
5
-6
0

Point 4

-2
0
2

Point 5
0
0
1

Point 6
0
0
0

Point 7
1
0
0

Point 8
1
0
-2

Point 9
2
0
-2

Point 10
2
0
0
Point 11
3
0
0
Point12
4
0
-1
Point13
3
0
0
Point14
2
0
0
Point15
1
0
0
Point16
0
0
0
Point 17
-1
0
0
Point 18
-2
0
0
Point 19 and 20 all 0


Per Color Adjustment:
Red:
Hue: 2
Saturation: -1
Lightness: 0

Magenta:
Hue: -1
Saturation: 0
Lightness: -2

Blue:
Hue: - 1
Saturation: 0
Lightness: -6

Cyan:
Hue: -1
Saturation: - 8
Lightness: 1

Green:
Hue: 0
Saturation: 1
Lightness: 3

Yallow
Hue: - 1
Saturation :-3
Lightness:3

 

[spongebob]

I think CMS is tied to picture mode, custom, etc and not to color temp. Very confusing how Sony does this

 

[spongebob]

Advanced Basic is tied to input, Multipoint is tied to color temp.

 

[salvador_dali]

Used Spears and Munsil for the color gamma adjustment and brightness and contrast. all adjustments by eye.

	HD/SDR	UHD/HDR
Picture mode	Custom	Custom
Auto picture mode	Off	Off
Light sensor	Off	---
Advanced settings
Brightness
Brightness	34	Max
Contrast:	91	92
Gamma:	0	0
Black level:	50	50
Black adjust:	Off	Off
Adv. contrast enhancer:	Off	Off
Peak luminance	Medium	High
Color
Color:	50	50
Hue:	0	0
Color temperature:	Expert 1	Expert 1
Adv. color temperature

2-point not used (SDR and HDR)
10-point (SDR and HDR)*

		1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10
	Red offset	0	0	0	1	1	2	0	1	1	1
	Green offset	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0
	Blue offset	8	0	0	5	0	4	0	1	1	3

Live color

Off

Off

Per color adjustment (SDR and HDR)*

	R	G	B	C	M	Y
Hue	3	-3	0	0	-2	0
Saturation	-1	-4	0	0	-3	0
Lightness	0	0	0	0	0	0

Clarity
Sharpness	50	50
Reality Creation	Off	Off
Random Noise Reduction	Off	Off
Digital Noise Reduction	Off	Of
Smooth gradation	Off	Off
Motion
Motionflow	Off	Off
Cinemotion	Off	Off
Video options
HDR mode	Auto	Auto
HDMI video range	Auto	Auto
Color space	Auto	Auto