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I tried the sound and vision calibration settings and am getting better shadow detail in cable sdr content, but it may be technically (measured by the camera versus my uneven eye) incorrect on my display.
 

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HD/SDRUHD/HDR
Picture modeCustomCustom
Auto picture modeOffOff
Light sensorOff---
Advanced settings
Brightness
Brightness35Max
Contrast:9292
Gamma:-20
Black level:5050
Black adjust:OffOff
Adv. contrast enhancer:OffOff
Peak luminanceMediumHigh
Color
Color:5050
Hue:00
Color temperature:Expert 1Expert 1
Adv. color temperature
2-point not used (SDR and HDR)
10-point (SDR and HDR)*
12345678910
Red offset00011300-21
Green offset0000000100
Blue offset000-3000000
Live colorOffOff
Per color adjustment (SDR and HDR)*
RGBCMY
Hue2-3007-7
Saturation-3-800-5-9
Lightness000005
Clarity
Sharpness5050
Reality CreationOffOff
Random Noise ReductionOffOff
Digital Noise ReductionOffOf
Smooth gradationOffOff
Motion
MotionflowOffOff
CinemotionOffOff
Video options
HDR modeAutoAuto
HDMI video rangeAutoAuto
Color spaceAutoAuto


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I think the luminance difference with the gamma change is probably the most notable difference. Also green intensity seems to be lowered too.
 

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Because they don’t intend you to use the 2 point if you are using the 20 point.


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What threw me Tyler was D-Nice's settings in the owner's thread having 2 point and 10 point settings. I'm assuming that's OK for 10 point but not for 20 point?
 

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What threw me Tyler was D-Nice's settings in the owner's thread having 2 point and 10 point settings. I'm assuming that's OK for 10 point but not for 20 point?
Officially we recommend never using the two point. He disagrees, That being said you can use whatever you want , you just need to understand the consequences and what happens to the other picture modes that share that color temperature preset.


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Officially we recommend never using the two point. He disagrees, That being said you can use whatever you want , you just need to understand the consequences and what happens to the other picture modes that share that color temperature preset.


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Could you explain that a little further?

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I would assume if you left 2 point intact you would have to calibrate “further” in every other 10 or 20 value. I am guessing that the finer adjustments may take longer then.

@WiFi-Spy how onerous is the calibration with the kit? Can the tv communicate with the calibration camera and self adjust or is that technically impossible?
 

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I would assume if you left 2 point intact you would have to calibrate “further” in every other 10 or 20 value. I am guessing that the finer adjustments may take longer then.

@WiFi-Spy how onerous is the calibration with the kit? Can the tv communicate with the calibration camera and self adjust or is that technically impossible?
D-Nice explained it as 2 point is "coarse" and multipoint is fine adjustment. In my case, I want color temp exp 1 to be D-65 and exp 2 to be an AWP. If they shared the same coarse basic setting, I'm assuming that the multipoint would have a harder time correcting the 2 point if at all. Plus I might like color temp exp 2 to be D-75 or even further from D-65.

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I would assume if you left 2 point intact you would have to calibrate “further” in every other 10 or 20 value. I am guessing that the finer adjustments may take longer then.

@WiFi-Spy how onerous is the calibration with the kit? Can the tv communicate with the calibration camera and self adjust or is that technically impossible?
Here is a tutorial video of the process:



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Not sure but if the video showed would you need to reset and leave them as 2 point as default and then work on expert 1 and 2 gamut separately?

D-Nice explained it as 2 point is "coarse" and multipoint is fine adjustment. In my case, I want color temp exp 1 to be D-65 and exp 2 to be an AWP. If they shared the same coarse basic setting, I'm assuming that the multipoint would have a harder time correcting the 2 point if at all. Plus I might like color temp exp 2 to be D-75 or even further from D-65.

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Check the owner's thread for that model over in the "OLED Technologies" area. Or rtings.com. Or CNET.com.
 

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Picture Mode: Expert 1 and Expert 2

Brightness Menu
Brightness: 18 Expert 1(100 nits muvie standard) and 36 for Expert2 (150 nits abl limit)
Contrast: 90
Gamma: 0
Black Level: 50/(for hdmi 49)
Black ADJ: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Peak Luminance: Medium

Color Menu
Color: 50
Color Temp: Expert
Live Color: Off

Clarity Menu 50
Reality Creation: Manual
Resolution: max 20, how you like, limit is 20
Smooth Gradation: Low

Motion Menu
Motionflow: Custom
Smoothness: 2 or 1
Clearness: 2 or 1
CineMotion: Auto

ADV Color Temperature Menu

ADV Color Temperature Basic (2p white)
R-Gain: -2
G-Gain: Max
B-Gain: -1
R-Bias: 0
G-Bias: 0
B-Bias: 0


ADV Color Temperature Multi Point (20p)
Point 1
2
-6
0

Point 2
3
-2
0

Point 3
5
-6
0

Point 4

-2
0
2

Point 5
0
0
1

Point 6
0
0
0

Point 7
1
0
0

Point 8
1
0
-2

Point 9
2
0
-2

Point 10
2
0
0
Point 11
3
0
0
Point12
4
0
-1
Point13
3
0
0
Point14
2
0
0
Point15
1
0
0
Point16
0
0
0
Point 17
-1
0
0
Point 18
-2
0
0
Point 19 and 20 all 0


Per Color Adjustment:
Red:
Hue: 2
Saturation: -1
Lightness: 0

Magenta:
Hue: -1
Saturation: 0
Lightness: -2

Blue:
Hue: - 1
Saturation: 0
Lightness: -6

Cyan:
Hue: -1
Saturation: - 8
Lightness: 1

Green:
Hue: 0
Saturation: 1
Lightness: 3

Yallow
Hue: - 1
Saturation :-3
Lightness:3
 

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I think CMS is tied to picture mode, custom, etc and not to color temp. Very confusing how Sony does this
 

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Used Spears and Munsil for the color gamma adjustment and brightness and contrast. all adjustments by eye.

HD/SDRUHD/HDR
Picture modeCustomCustom
Auto picture modeOffOff
Light sensorOff---
Advanced settings
Brightness
Brightness34Max
Contrast:9192
Gamma:00
Black level:5050
Black adjust:OffOff
Adv. contrast enhancer:OffOff
Peak luminanceMediumHigh
Color
Color:5050
Hue:00
Color temperature:Expert 1Expert 1
Adv. color temperature
2-point not used (SDR and HDR)
10-point (SDR and HDR)*
12345678910
Red offset0001120111
Green offset0000000100
Blue offset8005040113

Live colorOffOff
Per color adjustment (SDR and HDR)*
RGBCMY
Hue3-300-20
Saturation-1-400-30
Lightness000000

Clarity
Sharpness5050
Reality CreationOffOff
Random Noise ReductionOffOff
Digital Noise ReductionOffOf
Smooth gradationOffOff
Motion
MotionflowOffOff
CinemotionOffOff
Video options
HDR modeAutoAuto
HDMI video rangeAutoAuto
Color spaceAutoAuto
 
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