[krinkle]

So we have had many posts recently attempting to smear Blu-ray BD-50s again. Here are the latest actual facts:

Quote:
Originally Posted by videobusiness /forum/post/0


MAY 16 | Replication company Sony DADC U.S. has shipped 2.5 million 50GB Blu-ray discs since it began production last fall, the company said Wednesday.


Because of increasing strength in the format, Sony DADC is ramping up its Blu-ray production capabilities and expects to achieve an annual capacity of more than 30 million discs by this fall.


In unit sales, the Blu-ray format, including both 25GB and 50GB discs, has sold about 1 million units in the U.S. through April.


Due to the high demand for the 50GB Blu-ray product, we will continue to add lines and capacity throughout the year, said Michael Mitchell, executive VP and general manager at Sony DADC.


Jim Twiggs, Sony DADC VP of strategic development, added, We are experiencing ever-increasing interest in BD50 product from all genres, markets and studios, both large and small. We have seen title planning requests that include multiple BD50 discs in one package.

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6442854.html



Hopefully this clears up more of the FUD that was started when BD-50s were first called "science fiction" here.

 

[Robert D]

Last time I check there was still a difference between shipping and selling lol.

 

[krinkle]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert D /forum/post/0


Last time I check there was still a difference between shipping and selling lol.

The issue is that many members here are trying again to make it seem like there is going to be a shortage of BD-50s going forward. Or that BD-50 is not a real world viable format due to production difficulties.


This is not true, and not backed up by the facts.


The facts point to a future where more and more releases will be BD-50s only.


Sony will be able to replicate 30 million BD-50s per year by this fall.

 

[xboxboi]



Quote:
Originally Posted by krinkle /forum/post/0


So we have had many posts recently attempting to smear Blu-ray BD-50s again. Here are the latest actual facts:



http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6442854.html



Hopefully this clears up more of the FUD that was started when BD-50s were first called "science fiction" here.

yupe its from someone from sony and it says Blu-ray disk - not BD movie disk. give up oredi!! BD50 is a joke when it comes to replication and Sony is being sued for it !! We should have learnt by now that one thing that is consistent about any statement from Sony is that they are misleading 'lies'.

 

[noise36]

This includes games... so its actually a very low number

 

[Dot50Cal]



Quote:
Originally Posted by noise36 /forum/post/0


This includes games... so its actually a very low number

Really? Can you expand upon that and show us the data which shows how the 50GB discs are split up between gaming and movies? Clearly, you must have this data to make such a claim as fact, yes?


The point of the thread is that some people around here were claiming that 50GB discs are hard to produce, or cost too much to produce and therefore less are made. That FUD is now dead.


Also to this point NONE of the game discs use 50GB, so your assertion is using poor logic. A common theme among HD-DVD fud spreaders as of late.

 

[jpb123]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Dot50Cal /forum/post/0


Really? Can you expand upon that and show us the data which shows how the 50GB discs are split up between gaming and movies? Clearly, you must have this data to make such a claim as fact, yes?


The point of the thread is that some people around here were claiming that 50GB discs are hard to produce, or cost too much to produce and therefore less are made. That FUD is now dead.


Also to this point NONE of the game discs use 50GB, so your assertion is using poor logic. A common theme among HD-DVD fud spreaders as of late.

Do we have proof that ANY other replication company can even make 50GB disks?

 

[zBuff]



Quote:
Originally Posted by noise36 /forum/post/0


This includes games... so its actually a very low number

I don't think it is, as there aren't any DL Playstation 3 games as of yet. The largest game so far is Resistance Fall of Man which is just under 16GB.

 

[TheLion]

As I said in the other thread - there are far more BD50 being produced than HD30.


Just look at the 500,000 free BD50 Casino Royal copies for European PS3 owners (including me). That alone is half of the total sum of sold HD-DVDs. To add to this a VERY conservative guess is that 80% of all BD discs sold are BD50 - as almost any single big seller comes on such a disc. That alone would account for almost 1,000,000 sold BD50 movie discs.


I'm really amazed about the adoption and market penetration rate of BD50 - especially since I avoid buying single layer discs (as well as HD-DVD combos) like the plague.

 

[Wet1]



Quote:
Originally Posted by zBuff /forum/post/0


I don't think it is, as there aren't any DL Playstation 3 games as of yet. The largest game so far is Resistance Fall of Man which is just under 16GB.

Agreed. It would take a lot to really need more than 25GB for one of today's games, now that could change in a couple of years...

 

[Maxpower1987]



Quote:
Originally Posted by jpb123 /forum/post/0


Do we have proof that ANY other replication company can even make 50GB disks?

Yup, MEI make BD50s and Cinram have stated that they are working with Sony to get BD50 lines running.

 

[K.L.]

It feels like just yesterday that some people asserted BD50 didn't exist and is impossible to happen.

 

[MovieSwede]



Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLion /forum/post/0


Just look at the 500,000 free BD50 Casino Royal copies for European PS3 owners (including me). That alone is half of the total sum of sold HD-DVDs.

Not so sure they shipped 500 000 copies, they screwed me of mine...

 

[batmanbegan]



Quote:
Originally Posted by K.L. /forum/post/0


It feels like just yesterday that some people asserted BD50 didn't exist and is impossible to happen.

I am sorry, I am sorry but I feel composition coming on.. (tongue-in-cheek with all due respect to the Man, Macca of course)


"Yesteday, BD-50s seemed so far away

Now it looks as though they are here to stay(ntm kick butt)

Oh, I believe

in yesterday


Suddenly, "facts" are not what they used to be

There's BD-50s coming out of factories

Oh yesterday, came suddenly


Why SNE

had to score, I dont know

they wouldn't say

I said

something wrong now I long

for yesterday


Yesterday, FUD was such an easy game to play

Now, I need a place to hide away

Oh, I believe

in yesterday


Why SNE

had to score I dont know

they wouldn't say

I said

something wrong now I long

for yesterday


(repeat Chorus)

"

 

[krinkle]



Quote:
Originally Posted by batmanbegan /forum/post/0


I am sorry, I am sorry but I feel composition coming on.. (tongue-in-cheek with all due respect to the Man, Macca of course)


"Yesteday, BD-50s seemed so far away

Now it looks as though they are here to stay(ntm kick butt)

Oh, I believe

in yesterday


Suddenly, "facts" are not what they used to be

There's BD-50s coming out of factories

Oh yesterday, came suddenly


Why SNE

had to score, I dont know

they wouldn't say

I said

something wrong now I long

for yesterday


Yesterday, FUD was such an easy game to play

Now, I need a place to hide away

Oh, I believe

in yesterday


Why SNE

had to score I dont know

they wouldn't say

I said

something wrong now I long

for yesterday


(repeat Chorus)

"

LOL!!

 

[xbdestroya]



Quote:
Originally Posted by batmanbegan /forum/post/0


I am sorry, I am sorry but I feel composition coming on.. (tongue-in-cheek with all due respect to the Man, Macca of course)


"Yesteday, BD-50s seemed so far away

Now it looks as though they are here to stay(ntm kick butt)

Oh, I believe

in yesterday


Suddenly, "facts" are not what they used to be

There's BD-50s coming out of factories

Oh yesterday, came suddenly


Why SNE

had to score, I dont know

they wouldn't say

I said

something wrong now I long

for yesterday


Yesterday, FUD was such an easy game to play

Now, I need a place to hide away

Oh, I believe

in yesterday


Why SNE

had to score I dont know

they wouldn't say

I said

something wrong now I long

for yesterday


(repeat Chorus)

"

An instant classic!

 

[RUR]

"We have seen title planning requests that include multiple BD50 discs in one package"


Intriguing, eh?

 

[wnorris]

Oh please enlighten me...


How many HD-DVD discs have been manufactured globally? If you can't answer with evidence to back it up, then please change the thread title.


All that has been made public is that IN THE US over a million HD-DVD's have been sold. Sold is not the same as shipped, so how many have been manufactured/shipped? Then were are also talking about the US only. How many HD-DVD's have been made/shipped/sold internationally? Sony DADC is saying they have made 2.5 million BD50's, which is a global number.


Why don't you try to make an apples to apples comparison, instead of just spreading more BD FUD. We have enough of that already...

 

[xbdestroya]

I agree the thread titles assertion seems to come out of nowhere, but truthfully I don't think it's the "greater than HD DVD" aspect that calls attention here, but rather the BD50 rep count up until now, and the (inclusive) replication capacity they're looking to achieve before years end.


One doesn't have to search for long to find a number of threads - in an oft repeated manner - that 'wonder' aloud about the barriers faced by BD in BD50 replication. You can view it as BD FUD if you like, but I think the majority of us view it as an assertion that will help curtail HD FUD, unless folk here are actively prepared to doubt the stated replication numbers out of Sony DADC (which I don't put past anyone here mind you).

 

[ctiq21]

How many UMDs have been shipped?