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Greetings,


I realize that there are numerous threads regarding the HS10 ( lamp bug etc ). I am going to order the projector this morning and want to try to find out a couple of things.


- Does anyone use the supplied video Multi cable with the HS10, and if so how does it's quality compare to running direct component/S video cables?


- I am going to order a Da lite High contrast Da mat 92" diagonal ( 80 x 45 ) screen. My room is 14 x 23. I am going to ceiling mount the projector 14 feet from the screen. My mounting location is flexible. I have heard that waiting to order the screen is a good idea. I assume that this would be preferable if your mounting location was fixed and it was necessary to ensure proper screen size ( based upon throw/zoom distances etc. ) Anyone else order their screens right away and encounter any issues?


- I am going to have run wire conduit from my component rack to the projector as running it through the walls is not an option. I saw some speaker wire type conduit at Home Depot which might work. Anyone else have any ideas as to the best way to run the cables up the wall to the ceiling?


There is a link below to my webpage which has pics of my setup. The projector will be mounted above the blue couch. The screen will be mounted on the wall where the HDTV is now.


I appreciate any thoughts and or comments.



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Hi Placidman ;)


Although I've got a quality componentcable from Germany between my HS10 and DVD, the supplied multicable isn't bad at all. In fact a friend of mine could'nt tell the difference during a test and sometimes I can't either, so the supplied cable is good enough for most people, but by looking at some of your AV gear I can tell that you are not the comprimizing type...:D


Yeah - waiting to buy the screen until the pj is hooked up and ready sounds like a good idea to me as well..


I'm hiding my AV cables in a white "cable-concealer" (don't know the correct english term) all along my ceiling, mounted on the white borders on my walls - you can take a look at my website where I've posted some pics.. it's in danish though since the english version is still being made...


BTW: If you wanna see what this baby is truly capable of presenting, mount a CC40R filter instead of the supplied one and follow (or consider) Dave Boswell's instructions into changing the settings in the servicemenu - it's posted at this board. Steve Smallcomb also offers the SmartIII solution for HS10 owners...


BTW#2: There's is a HS20 on the way with better contrast in case you didn't know...:D


Good luck!


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I think you need to give people more than an hour and a half to answer before bumping! :)


I haven't noticed any difference between using the multi cable vs direct component. The multi cable does look a little cheesy, but seems to do the job. Certainly it would be easier to run through a conduit.


Not sure I can offer much help on the screen decision, my screen is a DIY painted wall framed with molding. I have a drop ceiling, so my mounting location was very flexible. I was trying to get the biggest screen I could, since I had some room issues (low ceilings and a narrow room). I would suggest mounting your PJ near the midpoint of your intended throw distance, then you'll have some flexibility with the zoom to get the picture the correct size. I started out with my HS10 on a stepladder so I could move it around and figure out the best spot for it.
 

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Greetings,


Thomas,


Thanks very much for the info. Your setup looks great. I ordered the projector this morning and it should be here Thursday of next week. That will give me a little time to prepare. I will be doing essentially the same thing you did with your cables, except my projector will be mounted in the center of the room.


I am aware that the HS20 is forth coming however I got the HS10 for a killer price from an authorized dealer so I could not refuse.


Thanks again.
 

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Greetings,


JDlive, your right about the premature " bump ". I was hoping to get as much exposure as possible as soon as possible because I was preparing to order the projector. Thanks for your input on the cable, and your right about it being easier to place in the conduit.


Good advice regarding the step ladder, thanks again.


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Hello Ralph, welcome to the HS10 club.


Multi-cable vs component/S-Video cables: I bought good quality component cables, Svideo and composite (BlueJeans.com). DVI cable from Cables to Go. I also ran the multi-cable in my conduit.

I can't say whether one is better than the other on component, because I won't have a good source with component until I get my HD300 sat receiver. (The Bravo looked crappy on both multi-cable and dedicated component.) A good component cable set is 1" in diameter. Fat as a garden hose. See comments below about conduit.


I have a 100" diagonal Firehawk mounted at 13'6" from the pj. You might want to move your throw distance up a foot or so. Maybe 13'.


If you go with conduit, consider 2"or 3" diameter tube for future needs. I used a 2" brass tube (painted black). It was a bit of a juggle getting the DVI connector, the multi-cable connector, the power cord connector and all of those wires through a 2" tube. The tube system that I used was designed to be a bar foot rail. The nice thing about it it is fastened together with set-screws so if I need to re-run wires I can disassemble the tubing and elbow like a string necklace to pull wires through it. Think creative on the conduit. There are lots of ways you can have conduit, yet have it look good. (drapery rods, track lighting tubes, a valance along a wall, etc.)


Good luck!


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I have compared the multicable to Belden 1695-based cables from Rhino and Blue Jeans Cables. I found what I consider significant differences with the better cables. If you expect the most out of your HS10 you need a better cable than the multi, IMO.
 

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Greetings,


Thanks Kevin. I will try both as I have quality cables. I wanted to get a feeling from others as my options for running cables may be a bit limited. Thanks for the feedback.


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Congrats placidman and welcome to the club!!


I ordered my screen and pj at the same time and didn't really run into an issue. Actually, I had to move it a little closer than my previous pj. ( I have a 98" Silverstar 6.0)


As far as cables, I noticed a pretty big difference when I switched from the multi cable to blue jeans cables. I first had the "garden hose" component cable, but then switched to the more flexible and less expensive cable and saw no loss in detail in a 30ft run. I believe it was beldon 1504, but don't quote me on that. If you look at bluejeans.com you'll see it.


I bought the Smart III and had both a CC30R and a CC40R and finally went with the CC40R and couldn't be happier.


Its a great pj and should provide a very nice picture. Enjoy!!
 

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Greetings,


Lexman, thanks for the feedback! I will be ordering my screen tomorrow. I will try both cable hookups, and will more than likely go with independent cable runs. I will be off for Home Depot tomorrow to find a solution for housing the cable. The feedback is really appreciated from everyone. Please keep it coming.


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Welcome to the club

I used a dedicated Svideo cable and yes it had better quality than the multicable provided with HS10

I use a 16:9 screen Dalite 1.0 gain screen. I don't know the one you are buying BUT you don't need a screen with a higher gain as HS10 is quite bright!!!! If you choose a screen with higher gain you might loose your contrast/black levels!

You should place your PJ according to installation guide trying to have SIDESHOT=0 Vkeystone=0 otherwise the internal scaler is TURNED ON EVEN in 1:1 pixel mapping via DVI

AVOID any unit with SN
 

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I have almost the identical size room and I am running the HS10 14' feet away and projecting onto a 92" Dalite screen with the Chief mount, both later items I bought here! I'm using the supplied multi cord and still can't belive how awesome the picture is. The 92" screen is a perfect choice for your viewing distance and I can't recommend a better site than this to buy the screen from, plenty of help and advice.
 

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Greetings,


Well I spoke to Jason this morning and ordered the Da-lite high contrast Cinema Vision 92" screen, and the Chief ceiling mount for the HS10.


I intend to use my Philips Pronto TSU2000 with the projector. Anyone else using a universal type remote with their HS10 have any issues?


I also found the answer to running my cables. I picked up some cable conduit at Home Depot which should do nicely and give me plenty of space to run the needed cables.


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Greetings,


JDlive, thanks very much. A great and informative site indeed. The discrete codes should come in very very handy. I will figure out how to employ them with my TSU2000.


Your help is greatly appreciated.




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Placidman,


Just one late comment. Your room is a actually quite long. You have not mention your intended viewing distance from the screen. If you are sitting 23' away from the screen, you may want a bigger screen. I am sitting 20' away from a 9 ft diagonal projected image. The HS10 can handle that with ease. The bigger the screen, the better.
 
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