I stopped on my way home from work tonight, at my Sony dealer. He just finished setting up this new Sony 57XBR2. He had the Dish network HD demo channel on, and it looked great!! I talked him into trying his "old off air antenna" on the built in tuner. He said that it would not find any channels, (no hd in Toledo). Within a few minutes the sony found all the Detroit hd channels. WOW!! the PBS demo feed was just awesome!! This tv is must see. The only thing my dealer has to do is move the 57XBR10W away from the new 57XBR2.