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Sony STR-DGx00 Thread

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There wasn't one, so here is a thread for the new low end recivers from Sony:


STR-DG500

STR-DG600

STR-DG800


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We just got an STR-DG600. I paid $254.99 + tax from Circuit City.


Quick review based on one day of casual use.


I replaced a mid to low-range audiophile stereo with the budget consumer

STR-DG600. The DG600 is about 1/5 the price of the hardware it replaced. We use this system primarly for watching TV or movies. My old power amp was 100WPC class A. Its a huge heavy box my wife calls 'the bomb' She was glad to see it go.


It works.



Easy to hook up. The rear panel is clearly labled and well laid out.

There are low-cost binding posts for all 7 amplifier outputs. The are better than the pin terminals seen on some econonmy recivers. I recomend using banana plugs.


I hooked my Motorola 6412 DVR to one component Video input and our DVD player to the other. You can reassign the two component video inputs to any of the other inputs. Component video output went to our Sony Grand Wega IV.


The unit will upconvert composit video to s-video. That's a worthless feature as our GW TV does at least as good a job. Bet they use the same chip. Nevertheless, I will try it with the VCR as soon as I free up some cables.


For casual TV viewing the DG600 sounds fine.

Video switching works althoug I wish it was a little faster.

I just ordered another set of component cables. I'll try an A/B comparison of HD video direct from the DVR vs. switched through the reciver. Look for results in by this weekend.



At first glance the configuration menus look to be confusing and hard to use. Some options I'd like to see aren't there and ones I'd never want are. The users manual is only a little better. I'm going to need help outside the manual to get the most out of this complex beast.


The listing of remote codes in the manual is very small. I hope to be able to use it to control the TV, DVD player and DVR. I will post updates.



I've had no luck getting a signal from the pre-outs. I'd like to use my TV speakers for the center channel. Does anyone know if that is possible?


I wish there was an audio pass through so we could use just the TV speakers when we don't want full home theater
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Day two with the Sony STR-DG600



I have not been able to program the remote to control our 1 year old Sony TV. I carefully read and reread the manual and followed the steps exactly. It doesn't work. The remote may have a bug or the instructions in the manual are wrong.


The manual was written by an engineer who speaks English as a second language.


I have had no luck getting a signal out of the pre-out jacks. The manual doesn't say anything about how to use the jacks. They may not be enabled.



The menu system is difficult to use. Simple things like setting the balance or tone controls require paging through the terrible manual.



Even if you a Software Engineer with a degree in Electrical Engineering like me expect to have trouble learning to use this reciever.


I am considering returning it and getting something else.


Andrew
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I returned the STR-DG600 to Circuit City. They took it back as a defective unit because the remote would not program.


The bang for the buck isn't bad. The problems are all in the UI. The terrible manual doesn't help.


Avoid the STR-DGx00 series. Even if Sony rewrites the manual don't buy it.


I'm shopping for something else. I'm leaning towards the HK AVR-240.



Andrew
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I dumped my sony receiver for a avr335 refurb off ebay (300 bux shipped) and couldn't be any more pleased.


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Originally Posted by Andrew535 /forum/post/0


I returned the STR-DG600 to Circuit City. They took it back as a defective unit because the remote would not program.


The bang for the buck isn't bad. The problems are all in the UI. The terrible manual doesn't help.


Avoid the STR-DGx00 series. Even if Sony rewrites the manual don't buy it.


I'm shopping for something else. I'm leaning towards the HK AVR-240.



Andrew

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Originally Posted by ocZZZZ /forum/post/0


I dumped my sony receiver for a avr335 refurb off ebay (300 bux shipped) and couldn't be any more pleased.


A refurb AVR 235 direct from HK is on the way to me. It cost me less than the DG600.
wow.. this thread came to a quick conclusion.

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wow.. this thread came to a quick conclusion.


As it should The DG600 is terrible.


Someone may get an STR-DG800 for the low cost HDMI switch.


I think it would be easier to climb behind my system and move cables around.
So is anybody else wondering what happened to the STR-DF series?
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So is anybody else wondering what happened to the STR-DF series?


Sony replaced the Dumb F*** engineer with someone from marketing.
I'm not the only one who had trouble with the remote. There is a review for the STR-DG800 on Amazon that reports the same problem.
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Hi all,


I Spent
a great deal of time cabling everything and I think I have a bad unit (STR-D600) but wanted to double check with everyone on the forum before ripping it out and taking it back to the store. Appreciate your feedback.


I am able to connect Video 2 in , DVD in with my VCR & DVD and using the Monitor Out (S Video) to my TV.


However , I when I try to connect my Satellite to the Video 1 in and use Video 1 out back to my VCR for recording, it does not seem to work, it seem all my Video 1 Outputs ( S-Video , Composite Video , Audio ) is being out put. I moved my cable from the monitor out to the Video 1 out and got no signal. I was expecting the Receiver will take the Video 1 in and also send the same signal back via Video 1 out so I can connect it to a DVD recorder or VCR ?


Please let me know if any of you are using Video 1 in / out with better luck or Do I just have a bad unit and need to take to back.


Thanks,

Chankj
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does the unit do video conversion? I.e if you input S-video will component br put out? if not then when you input s-video into the receiver you need to select the s-video input on the display to see anything

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Originally Posted by SiriuslyCold /forum/post/0


does the unit do video conversion? I.e if you input S-video will component br put out? if not then when you input s-video into the receiver you need to select the s-video input on the display to see anything


The DG600 up converts from composite to s-video only. It does not up convert from s-video to component. I didn't get a chance to try it before I returned my unit.


The DG800 does up convert both composite and s-video to component.
Hi , I was able to reach Sony esupport and basically they told me :


It is recommended to connect either the Video1 OUT or Video1 IN , but not both. Since it will not output or input in the receiver.


They told me the scenario you would use the Video 1 Out is :

You can connect the Satellite dish to the Video2 IN and then connect the VCR to the Video1 OUT. This'll work.


This was consistent with what there knowledge base indicated. It was very confusing and not very useful to have Video 1 Input / Output that cannot be use concurrently.


Knowledge Article C358548

No audio through the VIDEO 1 output when the audio is input to VIDEO 1.


Audio input to a specific connection cannot be output through the same connection. Audio input to the VIDEO 1 INPUT connection cannot be output through the VIDEO 1 OUTPUT. This is normal operation.


I will probably keep my unit since everything else seem to be fine and avoid hassle of returning the unit and ripping out all the cables.
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Audio input to a specific connection cannot be output through the same connection. Audio input to the VIDEO 1 INPUT connection cannot be output through the VIDEO 1 OUTPUT. This is normal operation.

Maybe normal for Sony, but certainly not what you'd expect.


I didn't think to try Video 2 before I returned mine.


That also means you can't use one of them as an audio pass through to the TV speakers.


What if you are using all of the inputs?
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OK, so I still like Sony and just received my STR-DG800 from Amazon and plugged DVD and TV and speakers in.


First problem, when watching DVD, my rear speakers don't work and the lamp in middle of LED panel doesn't light up to show that decoding multi-channel signal from DVD.


I have DVD video to receiver by Video S cable and then another Video S Cable to TV (I have older 32" Sony TV, waiting on new 2006 rear projection LCDs) and for audio just normal 2 wire audio cable with RCA plugs from DVD to receiver. Sony DVD light is on saying Prologic sound signal.


Q: What am I doing wrong. Old style audio cables will transmit Dolby signal correct, I don't have-to-have the newer digital cables do I?


Thanks in advance . . . .


PS: I've just ordered a digital coaxial & an optical cable from a web store to see if one of those solves the problem, should arrive in max 1 week.
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If you don't have Optical or Coax audio connected, you won't get surround output other than ProLogic. While you wait for your cables to come in, take one of your composite cables and connect it to the coax digital audio output of your DVD player and the coax digital audio input on your reciever. That should give you 7.1 (or 6.1 or 5.1 depending on your setup) from your reciever.
Thx packbacker, will try that trick with temp poorboy cable, OK so I should still be able to get analog Dolby 5.1 via old style cables, still don;t know why receiver doesn't acknowledge . . . .
Actually the 'old style' (composite or 'red and white') cables won't pass 5.1. They will only pass dolby prologic and 2 channel signals.
Hello everyone, I'm reading this thread and I'm thinking that these receivers are unjustly getting a bad name. I'm going to quote a few posts and offer my input to hopefully get these off of the junk list. I am the owner of an STR-DG600.

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The unit will upconvert composit video to s-video. That's a worthless feature as our GW TV does at least as good a job. Bet they use the same chip. Nevertheless, I will try it with the VCR as soon as I free up some cables.

Hardly a useless feature. When using a older Nintendo 64, it's nice to not need to switch inputs on my television. The upconversions to S VID is automatic and works very very well.

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Video switching works althoug I wish it was a little faster.

I cannot comment on component switching, but svideo switching was instantaneous with the switching of the source.

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I've had no luck getting a signal from the pre-outs. I'd like to use my TV speakers for the center channel. Does anyone know if that is possible?
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I have had no luck getting a signal out of the pre-out jacks. The manual doesn't say anything about how to use the jacks. They may not be enabled.

If you look carefully on the rear panel, the only Pre-outs are for the subwoofer and the surround speakers. There is no pre-out for the center channel. Directly adjacent to the pre-outs on the rear panel is the multi-channel input. This has an input for each individual channel, including the center. It's close proximity to the pre-out may have lead you to mistakenly believe that the connection for center was a pre-out.

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I have not been able to program the remote to control our 1 year old Sony TV.

The remote should operate any Sony television out of the box without programming. My 5 year old Sony set was no exception. Of course it is possible that you had a bad remote.

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Even if you a Software Engineer with a degree in Electrical Engineering like me expect to have trouble learning to use this reciever.The menu system is difficult to use. Simple things like setting the balance or tone controls require paging through the terrible manual.

I'll admit the menu system is somewhat cryptic. 80% of which I was able to decipher, but checking in the manual is helpful.

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However , I when I try to connect my Satellite to the Video 1 in and use Video 1 out back to my VCR for recording, it does not seem to work, it seem all my Video 1 Outputs ( S-Video , Composite Video , Audio ) is being out put. I moved my cable from the monitor out to the Video 1 out and got no signal. I was expecting the Receiver will take the Video 1 in and also send the same signal back via Video 1 out so I can connect it to a DVD recorder or VCR ?

This is by design. It is assumed, and rightfully so, that the output from video 1 and the input to video 1 will be connected to the same device. When video 1 is selected as the source, the output to video 1 is disabled to prevent an audio/video feedback loop. To work around this problem, connect your recording unit (be it VCR, PVR, DVD-R) to video 1 and whatever sources you may want to record to any other input. I would have liked to see sony include outputs on video 2.

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Thx packbacker, will try that trick with temp poorboy cable, OK so I should still be able to get analog Dolby 5.1 via old style cables, still don;t know why receiver doesn't acknowledge . . . .

Regular RCA cables WILL carry digital signal, just NOT through the analog inputs. Simply connect one side to the coax input on the receiver and the other side to the coax output on the device. This will solve your problem. In the event that you're using a Red/White pair, use white on both sides and leave the red disconnected. This is not the ideal solution, but other than aesthetics (will you really see it?) it will work perfectly fine over short distances.


I've had the STR-DG600 for 4 days now. I am very happy with it , particularly in comparison to my old STR-D550Z that served me for many many years. With decent speakers and quality source devices, there is no reason that this receiver will not make anyone in the market for a budget dolby digital setup very happy.


Digital input from my HTPC, DVD Player, and Xbox are flawless and svideo switching is a major plus. This isn't designed for the person with entirely HD components as there are only 2 HD capable video inputs. But for me still enjoying my 32in standard def TV, it works just fine.
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