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Sony throws down the gauntlet with PS3 1.8 FW

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Sony is starting to make PS3 live up to its hype as a central hub with its latest FW.


1. 1080p24 for BD (hello MS/Toshiba
)

2. DVD upscaling (about time Sony)

3. Streaming audio/video

4. Full Range RGB/HDMI for BTB and WTW

5. 720p BD output for those with 720p displays


Now the only things this thing need to be the mother of all home theater components are:


1. dts-HDMA internal decoding

2. HDMI 1.3 advance audio codec bitstream output

3. The new BD profile 1.x?


It's an expensive piece of hardware, but when you look at the whole package of the unit's capabilities its well worth the price of admission.
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This update made me proud to be a PS3 owner
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Without 5.1 analog outputs to benefit from HD soundformats it's still a no go for me.
Time to come into the 21st century AD and get an HDMI receiver.
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Nice update. Add in IR support (with a $29 attachment) and Profile 1.1 support, and the PS3 will finally be complete.


Too bad it costs $600 though.


The IR issue aside, the pricing does make some of those standalone BR players look all the more ridiculously priced, especially since most of them will never be able to get full Profile 1.1 support.
What it needs to add is WMA lossless compatibility...even the 360 offers that!

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What it needs to add is WMA lossless compatibility...even the 360 offers that!

WMA support is irrelevant in the bigger picture.


(I am assuming you're not joking.)

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Sony is starting to make PS3 live up to its hype as a central hub with its latest FW.


1. 1080p24 for BD (hello MS/Toshiba
)

2. DVD upscaling (about time Sony)

3. Streaming audio/video

4. Full Range RGB/HDMI for BTB and WTW

5. 720p BD output for those with 720p displays


Now the only things this thing need to be the mother of all home theater components are:


1. dts-HDMA internal decoding

2. HDMI 1.3 advance audio codec bitstream output

3. The new BD profile 1.x?


It's an expensive piece of hardware, but when you look at the whole package of the unit's capabilities its well worth the price of admission.

IOW, they finally made it functional.

Took long enough.

J
it needs to be $300 less and have a panasonic logo too.

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Originally Posted by CraigW /forum/post/0


Sony is starting to make PS3 live up to its hype as a central hub with its latest FW.



Now the only things this thing need to be the mother of all home theater components are:


1. dts-HDMA internal decoding

2. HDMI 1.3 advance audio codec bitstream output

3. The new BD profile 1.x?


It's an expensive piece of hardware, but when you look at the whole package of the unit's capabilities its well worth the price of admission.

Don't forget including a friggin IR port!!
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Originally Posted by CraigW /forum/post/0


Sony is starting to make PS3 live up to its hype as a central hub with its latest FW.


1. 1080p24 for BD (hello MS/Toshiba
)

2. DVD upscaling (about time Sony)

3. Streaming audio/video

4. Full Range RGB/HDMI for BTB and WTW

5. 720p BD output for those with 720p displays


Now the only things this thing need to be the mother of all home theater components are:


1. dts-HDMA internal decoding

2. HDMI 1.3 advance audio codec bitstream output

3. The new BD profile 1.x?


It's an expensive piece of hardware, but when you look at the whole package of the unit's capabilities its well worth the price of admission.

Right - the problem it has created for the BDA is that it has totally killed off any demand for standalone blu-ray players from other BDA members, including Sony's own standalone player. At $599, the PS3 is really the only HQ option when considering a BD player (which I said back in January '06). Does one model from one company (the founder of the format) create a viable marketplace for BD? Many BD fans criticize Toshiba for the exact same thing...


How many J6Ps would consider $600 for a "DVD player"? I will answer: Not many. I stretched when purchasing the Denon 2910 at $480 a couple of years ago, and my wife and all my friends thought it very excessive (as was the Paradigm Reference sound system and the Denon 3805 receiver, and the Samsung DLP TV..., and the Panny HDTV). $600 for a DVD player is more than the masses can handle, (and apparently, more than gamers can handle) as NPD numbers haver proven.

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Time to come into the 21st century AD and get an HDMI receiver.

In my opinion, the ps3 is the best bang for your buck. It is quite capable of so much ! In fact a little too much, it seems to make other blu-ray players obsolete. Once the PS3 is updated to BD profile 1.1 or even 1.2 and it decodes DTS-HD Master lossless audio, it will be the ultimate Multimedia machine. No doubt


Frank Derks is simply trying to bring the PS3 down and why one would want 6 analog cables plugged into a receiver instead of one hdmi cable is beyond me.
The 1G players were low volume, high margin players with expensive components aimed entirely at the early adopter crowd. 2G players have already cut costs (gone to BD-ROM instead of burner drives) and are more realistically priced and aimed at higher consumption.


BDA is largely consceding the low ground to the PS3, though they aim to match, if not undercut with the 2G, if not 3G BD players. In contrast to Sony's DVD strategy where they came out with 500 and 1000$ players, PS3 IS the lower player while the BDP-S1 was the high end. Unless you think the BDP-S1's pricing was coincidental.... Everyone else was a variation. Samsung was cheaper because it's... cheaper. Panny was varying off Sony pricing. Pioneer Elite is Elite in that high end pricing block.


Starting bling and getting cheaper is the way tech works, especially new tech. Imagine if you were one of the suckers who bought an XA1 for $799!
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Right - the problem it has created for the BDA is that it has totally killed off any demand for standalone blu-ray players from other BDA members, including Sony's own standalone player. At $599, the PS3 is really the only HQ option when considering a BD player (which I said back in January '06). Does one model from one company (the founder of the format) create a viable marketplace for BD? Many BD fans criticize Toshiba for the exact same thing...


How many J6Ps would consider $600 for a "DVD player"? I will answer: Not many. I stretched when purchasing the Denon 2910 at $480 a couple of years ago, and my wife and all my friends thought it very excessive (as was the Paradigm Reference sound system and the Denon 3805 receiver, and the Samsung DLP TV..., and the Panny HDTV). $600 for a DVD player is more than the masses can handle, (and apparently, more than gamers can handle) as NPD numbers haver proven.

I also stated in my post above that yes, the PS3 is quitely overshadowing its other blu-rays player counterparts. I also have no doubt that the other players will advance very quickly in their capabilities.
This is an "HDTV Software Media Discussion" ... how, exactly? I guess firmware is software.

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Right - the problem it has created for the BDA is that it has totally killed off any demand for standalone blu-ray players from other BDA members, including Sony's own standalone player. At $599, the PS3 is really the only HQ option when considering a BD player (which I said back in January '06). Does one model from one company (the founder of the format) create a viable marketplace for BD? Many BD fans criticize Toshiba for the exact same thing...


How many J6Ps would consider $600 for a "DVD player"? I will answer: Not many. I stretched when purchasing the Denon 2910 at $480 a couple of years ago, and my wife and all my friends thought it very excessive (as was the Paradigm Reference sound system and the Denon 3805 receiver, and the Samsung DLP TV..., and the Panny HDTV). $600 for a DVD player is more than the masses can handle, (and apparently, more than gamers can handle) as NPD numbers haver proven.

Yes, actually I have to say I'm kind of surprised that Sony pushed this out so soon given that these features aren't standard and available at lower price points in stand-alone players. Why would someone interested in BD buy anything else? Given they are taking a bath from the hardware even at $600 (due the game playing hardware in it) you'd think they must be betting that people are going to also buy games for it. It seems that someone that only wants to watch movies would be their worst customer in that regard and they'd want to limit the bleeding until stand alone could entice those customers.


I mean it just doesn't compute with me as these are early-adopter/home theatre buff type additions (ie J6p doesnt give a rip about them being there or not), and it pushes those customers to a highly subsidized platform to watch movies? I think my head is going to explode on the strategy of this one...
Why is this here. Should be moved to BD section.
Continue discussion in the new 1.8 FW Master Threa Sticky.


Thanks


Doc
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