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Sony XBR960: CineMotion for DVD via Component, or none via HDMI?

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rsinclair

Discussion Starter · May 10, 2006

I just took delivery of an XBR960, and had a question regarding the CineMotion 3:2 pulldown feature (my apologies for not having the patience to go through the 4,000+ post Official Thread to see if this is answered there, the Search feature here leaves something to be desired.)

I have an Oppo DVD player hooked up via HDMI (Oppo DVI -> Sony Receiver HDMI In -> Sony Receiver HMDI out-> HDMI in on the TV).

I noticed that you cannot enable CineMotion on the TV's HDMI input, I suppose by design (but not sure why, couldn't find any reason perusing the manual).

I've read the CineMotion effect is quite good for DVD movie playback, but is it worth it to "give up" the HDMI connection for Component, just to be able to use the CineMotion feature? Or does a digital HDMI signal not "need" 3:2 pulldown for film-based material? I will use the set primarily for watching DVDs, but also Xbox 360 and HD Cable (50% / 30% / 20%), with cable and gaming already using Component inputs on the receiver.

-R

(p.s. I don't have "TrueLife" or whatever it's called on the Oppo enabled.. not sure if it's the same type of thing or not).

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appadv

· #2 · May 10, 2006

My opinion would be to let the TV do the work with the 3-2 pulldown, instead of using the HDMI input. My opinion comes from seeing the vast majority of players connected to an XBR960.

Only the high-end players (Denon 3910, Onkyo/Integra DVSP1000, etc.) do a better job than the TV in the video processing.

Try the player hooked up both ways; with most players under $1000 the component input looks better.

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nick2003

· #3 · May 10, 2006

I agree with appadv, I have a Sony 30HS420 and a good upconverting DVD player and have tryed both HDMI and Component video, Component video with CineMotion is better then using HDMI to upconvert on my set.

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raouliii

· #4 · May 10, 2006

Cinemotion is one of the DRC settings. The DRC is only active for 480i inputs. If you input 480i on HDMI, you should be able to use DRC.

Does the OPPO only output 1080i or 720p on HDMI or can you select 480i?

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MaxDam77

· #5 · May 10, 2006

Via DVI-HDMI the oppo only output 480p, 720p or 1080i.

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Q of BanditZ

· #6 · May 10, 2006

I leave my 960 on CineMotion at all times. If the incoming source is high def, then it doesn't matter otherwise.

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justsc

· #7 · May 10, 2006

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Originally Posted by rsinclair
I just took delivery of an XBR960, and had a question regarding the CineMotion 3:2 pulldown feature (my apologies for not having the patience to go through the 4,000+ post Official Thread to see if this is answered there, the Search feature here leaves something to be desired.)

I have an Oppo DVD player hooked up via HDMI (Oppo DVI -> Sony Receiver HDMI In -> Sony Receiver HMDI out-> HDMI in on the TV).

I noticed that you cannot enable CineMotion on the TV's HDMI input, I suppose by design (but not sure why, couldn't find any reason perusing the manual).

I've read the CineMotion effect is quite good for DVD movie playback, but is it worth it to "give up" the HDMI connection for Component, just to be able to use the CineMotion feature? Or does a digital HDMI signal not "need" 3:2 pulldown for film-based material? I will use the set primarily for watching DVDs, but also Xbox 360 and HD Cable (50% / 30% / 20%), with cable and gaming already using Component inputs on the receiver.

-R

(p.s. I don't have "TrueLife" or whatever it's called on the Oppo enabled.. not sure if it's the same type of thing or not).

I have the Oppo player hooked-up to my 34" Sony set and I use the HDMI input exclusively. The internal video processor in these sets is not as good as what Oppo provides. I proved this to myself objectively through the use of the HQV Benchmark DVD. This disc puts tvs and dvd players through some very rigorous video processing tests. The way you can test the tv's capabilities is to hook up the dvd player to output 480i, which forces the tv to do the work. Then, you can use 480p out from a player and see how well the player is performing. Using a standard progressive scan dvd player I ran the tests on a 34HS420 and on a 34XBR960. I was able to record the results of how well the internal video processors performed against these tests. Then I ran the same disc using the Oppo's DVI out and recorded the Oppo's results against the same tests. The results were very telling. Whereas the tv's performed well, the Oppo passed nearly all tests with flying colors (pun intended). On the tests that the Oppo didn't score at the top it still scored better results than the tvs did.

The Oppo scored better than a $3,500 Denon player in the video processing category, just to give you a feel for the picture quality delivered by the Oppo.

Go here to check out the HQV Benchmark DVD:

http://www.hqv.com/benchmark.cfm

Go here to review the DVD Shootout performed by Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity:

http://www.oppodigital.com/images/DV...mark%201-8.pdf

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appadv

· #8 · May 10, 2006

I have an Onkyo player, and the picture quality through component is better than that of HDMI.

However, every player is different, so it really depends on the quality of the player.

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