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Don't worry about it, just don't listen so loud you damage the speakers (which is good advice no matter how old the speakers are). Some people get all worked up about a break-in regimen, others just use their speakers.
Oh dont start that now.....
http://www.paradigm.ca/Support/TechF...tml#Question17
http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...7F00D0B7473B37
http://www.paradigm.ca/Support/TechF...tml#Question17
http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/...7F00D0B7473B37
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TKO...down and out for the count.
Way to go Yosh! Could have use those links in the other break-in thread.
Way to go Yosh! Could have use those links in the other break-in thread.
Do you take the word of a faith healer when seeking to learn if his services are effective?
Though an extreme example, it is always prudent to remember that companies are in business to make money. Altruism isn't typically their driving motivation. And years of experience do not guarantee that everything they say is factually based. It is quite possible, and very likely, that speaker companies recommending break-in are doing so for two reasons: (1) to appear sensitive to and compatible with the various myths held by the ignorant "audiophile" crowd, who will turn to another brand in a heartbeat if they suspect a company doesn't believe in all manners of "common knowledge" hogwash, and (2) to cut down on the return rate from customers unhappy with the sound right out of the box, which can happen even for superb speakers as it takes some time for your sense of "right" to acclimate to a new speaker substantially different from your previous one.
So stop cheerleading, put on your thinking cap, don't believe everything you read just because (or especially because) it comes from a manufacturer with a vested interest in the issue, and accept that a lot of convential "wisdom" in the audio world is simply cultivated ignorance.
Though an extreme example, it is always prudent to remember that companies are in business to make money. Altruism isn't typically their driving motivation. And years of experience do not guarantee that everything they say is factually based. It is quite possible, and very likely, that speaker companies recommending break-in are doing so for two reasons: (1) to appear sensitive to and compatible with the various myths held by the ignorant "audiophile" crowd, who will turn to another brand in a heartbeat if they suspect a company doesn't believe in all manners of "common knowledge" hogwash, and (2) to cut down on the return rate from customers unhappy with the sound right out of the box, which can happen even for superb speakers as it takes some time for your sense of "right" to acclimate to a new speaker substantially different from your previous one.
So stop cheerleading, put on your thinking cap, don't believe everything you read just because (or especially because) it comes from a manufacturer with a vested interest in the issue, and accept that a lot of convential "wisdom" in the audio world is simply cultivated ignorance.
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Wow up against the ropes and with 2 upper cuts from those links you're still standing. I have to tip my hat off to you Bigus, that's quite tenacious chin you have. It got me thinking a little and maybe it's in their best interest.
When B&W said it takes up to one month to sound good that's about the same 30 days return policy for GG,CC,BB, and so forth.
But then again how does one to know when to stop following the owner's manual and what to follow and not follow...you know.
Still long before I came to AVS and knew of the term break-in, I already noticed and kept this notion to myself why my speakers sounded better months later without telling anyone.
When B&W said it takes up to one month to sound good that's about the same 30 days return policy for GG,CC,BB, and so forth.
But then again how does one to know when to stop following the owner's manual and what to follow and not follow...you know.
Still long before I came to AVS and knew of the term break-in, I already noticed and kept this notion to myself why my speakers sounded better months later without telling anyone.
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Well, now that you mentioned it, my B&W's keep sounding exactly the same since the very moment I wired them to my Rotel amp.
BTW, as I usually try to learn more about the subject, now I think I can discern what to discard from my owners manuals
Ahhh! My B&Ws are 600 series models... Perhaps if I had some Nautilus 800 series I would notice the break-in period?
Back to the topic.... Please use that thinking cap
| When B&W said it takes up to one month to sound good that's about the same 30 days return policy for GG,CC,BB, and so forth. But then again how does one to know when to stop following the owner's manual and what to follow and not follow...you know. |
BTW, as I usually try to learn more about the subject, now I think I can discern what to discard from my owners manuals
Ahhh! My B&Ws are 600 series models... Perhaps if I had some Nautilus 800 series I would notice the break-in period?
Back to the topic.... Please use that thinking cap
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Well butter my Buns and call me Biscuit!! Just like my Polk Lsi's!!
Break-in, Schmake-in, It's all a myth!
| Well, now that you mentioned it, my B&W's keep sounding exactly the same since the very moment I wired them to my Rotel amp. |
Break-in, Schmake-in, It's all a myth!
Don't you guys know all big business is ou to get the little guy Audio pioneers, even ones throughout the 70's and 80's who operated at 2% profit and did not deal with dealers who had the aforementioned 30 return policy were just trying to swindle money from the regular guy. Seriously anyone who can't understand that a mechanical device requires break in is an idiot. It is plain and it is simple. If you sleep better at night ascribing to your oh so cool "anti-establishment" policy well hey that's life. I'm not saying that someone may or may not notice a difference in sound, but anyone who doesn't believe that friction or motion breaks down cone and crossover material is clueless. Oh I suppose that butyl rubber and polypropylene are impervious to wear.....
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Audio pioneers, even ones throughout the 70's and 80's who operated at 2% profit and did not deal with dealers who had the aforementioned 30 return policy were just trying to swindle money from the regular guy. Seriously anyone who can't understand that a mechanical device requires break in is an idiot. It is plain and it is simple. If you sleep better at night ascribing to your oh so cool "anti-establishment" policy well hey that's life. I'm not saying that someone may or may not notice a difference in sound, but anyone who doesn't believe that friction or motion breaks down cone and crossover material is clueless. Oh I suppose that butyl rubber and polypropylene are impervious to wear.....-spence
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In the long run speaker break in doessn't matter. The only thing that does is whether or not you like the sound coming out of the speaker. If it sounds good right away,or if you feel it takes a certain amount of time to sound good.
yosh,
I just moved from ATT to MSN but I haven't heard of anyone having a problem getting to the new site. Here's a link to the "old" site, same content. BTW, make sure your volume isn't turned up too high.
http://home.att.net/~zimkas/home.htm
yosh,
I just moved from ATT to MSN but I haven't heard of anyone having a problem getting to the new site. Here's a link to the "old" site, same content. BTW, make sure your volume isn't turned up too high.
http://home.att.net/~zimkas/home.htm
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They're miracle materials thet never change nor reach a state of equilibrium .
They're exactly the same from the day of manufacture until the day of catastophic failure.
Don't you know that by now ? Haven't you seen enough nose hairs yet to get the point ?
| Originally posted by spha Don't you guys know all big business is ou to get the little guy Audio pioneers, even ones throughout the 70's and 80's who operated at 2% profit and did not deal with dealers who had the aforementioned 30 return policy were just trying to swindle money from the regular guy. Seriously anyone who can't understand that a mechanical device requires break in is an idiot. It is plain and it is simple. If you sleep better at night ascribing to your oh so cool "anti-establishment" policy well hey that's life. I'm not saying that someone may or may not notice a difference in sound, but anyone who doesn't believe that friction or motion breaks down cone and crossover material is clueless. Oh I suppose that butyl rubber and polypropylene are impervious to wear.....-spence |
They're exactly the same from the day of manufacture until the day of catastophic failure.
Don't you know that by now ? Haven't you seen enough nose hairs yet to get the point ?
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