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Originally posted in the alternative to HTIB thread, but no replies -


I recently purchased the samsung HT-AS720ST HTIB and have mixed feelings about the system. By no means am I an audio expert, however the sound isn't doing it for me - it's missing that punch, and the sub seems lacking - I feel it's extremely muddy and not crisp. After trying to tweek the settings for days, I've decided to send it back to the store and build my own. From reading the threads here (i've exhausted myself attempting to browse through most of it) i'm sure I can build something louder and with much better sound and bass.


I'm set on the receiver: Onkyo TX-SR606


I'm completely in the dark about the speakers and sub. The room isn't huge, somewhere around 10x20 and I'd like sats to hang up on the wall (hopefully similar to the size of the sammy speakers on the AS720). excluding the receiver, i'm looking to spend no more than $600 for the speakers and sub. I've got a ps3 and HD DVR hooked up to a 52" sammy LCD. I'm interested in building the system for movies, music and ps3 gaming.


Does anyone have suggestions for which speakers to go with? I'm not particularly set on any brand - just a set that sounds great.


(Rather than making another post about the sub - I figured I'd ask about that here as well.)


As for the sub - the room isn't huge, I'd like to go with an 8" sub - no bigger than 10 and want something that hits well and doesn't sound muddy - but doesn't break the bank. Can anybody recommend a sub that fits that criteria?


I'd appreciate any feedback and suggestions you have
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How much are you wanting to spend? I bought a Bic H-100 last year for around $230 off of ebay (they are authorized sellers). I don't know if there are better things out there for the money, but it works fairly well, is cheap, and provides lots of bass.
 

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Originally Posted by wildcat0124 /forum/post/15509543


I recently purchased the samsung HT-AS720ST HTIB and have mixed feelings about the system. By no means am I an audio expert, however the sound isn't doing it for me - it's missing that punch, and the sub seems lacking - I feel it's extremely muddy and not crisp.

I'm not surprised--in general, the big-name electronics manufacturers are clueless about speakers.

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I'm set on the receiver: Onkyo TX-SR606

That should do.

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Originally Posted by wildcat0124 /forum/post/15509543


I'm completely in the dark about the speakers and sub. The room isn't huge, somewhere around 10x20 and I'd like sats to hang up on the wall (hopefully similar to the size of the sammy speakers on the AS720). excluding the receiver, i'm looking to spend no more than $600 for the speakers and sub.

One great deal that comes to mind for small satellites is a couple of these:

http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/..._84__0_0_0_-1/


Plus one of these:

http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/..._84__0_0_0_-1/


However, these are larger than what you want and cannot be placed directly on the wall. If you really want smaller speakers that you can place directly on the wall, the following set should be a big improvement over the Samsung HTIB's speakers, and at an even smaller size:

http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/..._84__0_0_0_-1/

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As for the sub - the room isn't huge, I'd like to go with an 8" sub - no bigger than 10 and want something that hits well and doesn't sound muddy - but doesn't break the bank. Can anybody recommend a sub that fits that criteria?

The $300 or so remaining in your budget can get you one of these:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-1.html


Although it's only an 8" sub, it should eat the Samsung sub alive, both in terms of quality and output.
 

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Thank you all for the suggestions. I'll take a look at the svs, BIC H-100 and HSH-STF subs. The simplistic look of the HSH STF-1 8" sub is nice.

Robert Cook - although I don't have a particular brand of speakers in mind, I'd like a different look than Energy Take 5.2 5-Piece Surround Sound silver speakers. I'd prefer to stay with black speakers. Are there any others you can suggest that surpass the weak HTIB speakers? Perhaps from Polk (RM75/85?) or other reputable speaker co?


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After reading a bit on the speaker thread, Energy speakers seem to be very favorable.


I was thinking of going with the Energy Take classic 5.1 package with the onkyo 606 - speakers match the size I was going for and I think they will put the samsung as720 HTIB sats and sub to shame. Also has the 8" sub I was looking for and is a good size for my living room. Any thoughts on the take classic?


Am I better off getting separate energy speakers and sub (STF-1) I'm very new to the HT world and want something that sounds good for movies and music. I don't mind going over my original $600 budget a bit for better speakers and sub that I'll enjoy for years to come.


Any feedback from the experts is greatly appreciated.


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I am probably the least knowledgeable person on here but I jut got a STf-t. For the size, I am really impressed with it. From what I have been told, the STf-1 and the H-100 are both going to give you about the same sound. Maybe some one that knows more than me will set me straight if I am wrong. I considered both but had to have something under 12".
 

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After considering the energy take classic 5.1 system ( http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...-5-1-overview/ ), I'm pretty sure the following setup will be much more pleasurable for years to come:


AVR: Onkyo TX-SR606 $385 free shipping http://www.authorizedelectronics.com/ontxfrsh2.html


Center speaker: C-C100 $100 free shipping http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...e=22-3654462-2


L, R and surronds: C-100 $200 for both pairs free shipping http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search


Sub: Energy ESW-8, ESW-C8 or HSU STF-1


I went to see the Take classic 5.1 system and thought it was very nice but thought I could get better sound with bigger Energy speakers. Am I better off with the configuration above? Will I notice a substantial difference? I'm ready to pull the trigger but would appreciate a final push.


Also - All speakers will be going on the wall with speaker wire in the wall. How can I mount them on the wall? I know it's not as simple as hangin them on a nail.


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I would try to have a listen to a set someplace before ordering unless you can return them to Vanns, just to make sure you do like them better, no reason to spend more now if you don't like them any more than the Take 5's.
 
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