[m0squito]

Hi,


I'm not a very demanding audio user, I was looking into buying the Yamaha YHT-597 5.1, but it hasn't been released yet. Last week I changed my mind and got the Denon AVR3312CI through Amazon's gold box for $550 (I was lured by the price cut and the brand name..). Now I'm completely clueless as to what speakers would be a good match for it. I don't have much money to spend, perhaps $300, tops $400. I'm okay with buying only 2.1 now and expanding in the future (does it make sense?). Can anyone advise me on the speakers for this AVR? Also, are there wireless options for the surround speakers? I don't really have a convenient/clean way to run wires in the room where the AVR is located.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I'm completely lost..


Thanks!

 

[zieglj01]

This can get you going


The Boston A25
http://www.onecall.com/product/Boston-Acoustics/A25WH-White-Ea/Speaker/_/R-115576


And, Energy sub
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882269026

 

[m0squito]

Thanks for the prompt reply! Too bad the speaker is white, the black is twice expensive. Do you have any other recommendation in similar price range? In any case, could you tell me what wires I should buy to hook the subwoofer and the speakers to the AVR?


Thanks!

 

[zieglj01]



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Originally Posted by m0squito  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22152639


Thanks for the prompt reply! Too bad the speaker is white, the black is twice expensive. Do you have any other recommendation in similar price range? In any case, could you tell me what wires I should buy to hook the subwoofer and the speakers to the AVR?

Thanks!

HTD Level Two
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers


Infinity Primus 163
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_108P163BK/Infinity-Primus-P163.html


Wire guage table
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable


Go to www.monoprice.com

speaker cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=speaker+wire


subwoofer cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=subwoofer+cable

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I would get 2 Infinity Primus P162 for $68 each.

http://www.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/infinity_primus.html


Here are the measurements.


Here is the review.


And I would get one Dayton 12" subwoofer for $129 + $15 shipping.


Add another P162 for 3.1. Or add the Infinity PC250 for $100.

 

[m0squito]

Thank you so much for the response and advice. I have one last question: the Dayton subwoofer has L and R input for the subwoofer - does it matter which one I should use when connecting it to the AVR? Should I use both with some Y connector?


Also, should I get the banana pins for the speaker wires?


Thanks!

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]



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Originally Posted by m0squito  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22153391


Thank you so much for the response and advice. I have one last question: the Dayton subwoofer has L and R input for the subwoofer - does it matter which one I should use when connecting it to the AVR? Should I use both with some Y connector?

Also, should I get the banana pins for the speaker wires?

Thanks!

L/R RCA Sub Input: doesn't matter. Using a Y-cable (1Female-2Male) will increase the sub volume be 3dB. So no big deal. Just use either the L or the R input.


Bananas are for 100% convenience. You don't need them. Most of us get them to make connection easier.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I also want to say the Infinity P362/ 363 are kind of "legendary".


You can get them for $160 each.


They have been reviewed and measured in Stereophile and just recently on Audioholics:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/floorstanding/primus-p363


In Harman's own famous double-blinded studies, many people preferred the P360/ 362/ 363 over other speakers costing many times more.


For example, the P360/362/363 has been well-known & documented (black & white facts) to have better on-axis and off-axis frequency responses than the B&W 800D, Wilson Audio, Vienna Acoustics speakers that cost $30K - $50K. Now whether they sound better or not is purely subjective and can be argued. But the facts are there and cannot be argued.


I've auditioned the B&W 800D twice. At moderate volume 85-90dB, I'm not sure many people can even tell which sounds better 100% of the time in a double-blinded test.

 

[m0squito]

Thank you so much for your help. I decided to get two P162 and the Dayton subwoofer for now. I might get the P362/363's in the future and use the P162 as surround speakers. For now, this is what I can afford.


THANK YOU

 

[10credi]

I would also like to know if there is any other decent setup for under $800 including subwoofer and 5 speakers for the same Denon AVR3312CI receiver please.


TIA.


I am looking at


Polk CS2 - Center Speaker (please suggest if any other ideas)

Polk Monitor (not sure 50 or 70) - Front R and L (please suggest if any other ideas)

Subwoofer - don't know but leaning towards Rhytmik FV 12 (maybe for later) (please suggest if any other cheaper ideas)

Surround (don't know)

 

[zieglj01]



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Originally Posted by 10credi  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154535


I would also like to know if there is any other decent setup for under $800 including subwoofer and 5 speakers for the same Denon AVR3312CI receiver please.

TIA.

800 dollar budgets do bring limitations - however, Newegg has a E-Blast

insider deal going on for Pioneer speakers - I would skip their sub.
http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/June-0-2012/AllStars21/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL062112&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL062112-_-EMC-062112-Index-_-E0-_-Electronics#Electronics

Their bookshelf speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=pioneer+speakers&x=0&y=0


I would also look at the Energy sub S10.3 - I would prefer this over cheaper

boomy subs, that struggle to hit 30hz. Energy does not have cheap boomy

bass.

Energy measurements.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/energy-take-series-home-theater-speaker-system?page=0,2

"Bass limits for the S10.3 subwoofer were measured with it set to maximum bandwidth and placed in the optimal corner of a 7,500-cubic-foot room. In a smaller room, you can expect 2 to 3 Hz deeper extension and up to 3 dB higher sound-pressure level (SPL). The S10.3 had above average dynamic capability, and the acoustical crossover points matched the dial markings closely"


If you can find a Rythmik sub and able to afford it > then I would much prefer that.


Also, do not under estimate HTD > their stuff is good - also, I would skip

their subs.
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers


If you can save up, a good thing is to build you set up in sections, and aim for

higher quality speakers.

 

[10credi]

Thank you zieglj01 for your prompt response.


So you are talking about


Pioneer SP-FS51-LR Floorstanding Speakers Pair - $199 but $130 right now

Pioneer SP-C21 Center Channel Speaker Each - $100 but $50 right now


Which sub for the above?


OR


Energy Take 5.0 setup for $250

S10.3 subwoofer - $250


OR


HTD


Center Channel Speaker - $130

Front Tower Speakers - $400

What about subwoofer here?


Also, just curious what if i raise the budget to $1000, does it help or you still think I should split up and buy one thing at a time? What if I could spend $400 every 6 months for 4 times (like $1600)?

 

[10credi]



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Originally Posted by zieglj01  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154604


If you can find a Rythmik sub and able to afford it > then I would much prefer that.

Is this the right one I am looking at?

http://rythmikaudio.com/FV12.html


It is available right now and at $566 shipped

 

[zieglj01]



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Originally Posted by 10credi  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154692


Is this the right one I am looking at?
http://rythmikaudio.com/FV12.html

It is available right now and at $566 shipped

The word is that they found a few - you may want to Email them.

 

[zieglj01]



Quote:
Originally Posted by 10credi  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154647


Thank you zieglj01 for your prompt response.

So you are talking about

Pioneer SP-FS51-LR Floorstanding Speakers Pair - $199 but $130 right now

Pioneer SP-C21 Center Channel Speaker Each - $100 but $50 right now

Which sub for the above?

OR

Energy Take 5.0 setup for $250

S10.3 subwoofer - $250

OR

HTD

Center Channel Speaker - $130

Front Tower Speakers - $400

What about subwoofer here?

I would not consider the Take 5.0


I favor the HTD over the Pioneer and Infinity speakers, I would use the Rythmik

or the Energy sub.

Also, HSU sub
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html

 

[zieglj01]



Quote:
Originally Posted by 10credi  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154647


Also, just curious what if i raise the budget to $1000, does it help or you still think I should split up and buy one thing at a time? What if I could spend $400 every 6 months for 4 times (like $1600)?

You can have a good decent system now, out of the choices listed above - a lot

of people can be happy and live with these systems. $1600 over 24 months, will

not get you much more - no guarantees what will happen over the next 24 months.


You can save and see what comes up - you can always sell your system in the future.

Your option, choice and decision.

 

[10credi]



Quote:
Originally Posted by zieglj01  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154747


I would not consider the Take 5.0

I favor the HTD over the Pioneer and Infinity speakers, I would use the Rythmik

or the Energy sub.

Also, HSU sub
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html

So more confusion added for the SUB with HSU which is coming out $610.


So finally according to you


Level TWO Tower Speakers from HTD - $400

Level TWO Center Channel Speaker - $129

Level TWO Bookshelf Speakers - $200

Energy S10.3 - $253


$982 total


Is there anything that can be changed or improved for a very small price?


Just a thought, you don't work for HTD, right

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]



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Originally Posted by m0squito  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154027


Thank you so much for your help. I decided to get two P162 and the Dayton subwoofer for now. I might get the P362/363's in the future and use the P162 as surround speakers. For now, this is what I can afford.


THANK YOU

You chose wisely.

For the money you won't find better measured & reviewed speakers for sure. There are so many budget speakers around. Some will say this one sounds better than that one. But they are all pure subjective opinions. Going with something that has been measured and reviewed and liked by so many people like the Infinity P362 & P162 is a wise choice.

 

[ahatteberg]

I also just bought the Denon 3312 and am looking for speakers but have a bit more to spend. I currently have Snell bookshelf speakers, surrounds and center (which I've not been completely happy with a far as movie/TV dialogue) and am going to move those into my bedroom and replace the entire system in my den. It's a big room with high ceilings, wood floors and floor-to-ceiling windows (no curtains) on one wall. I'm pretty sure I want to stick with bookshelves because I have a lot of well-placed bookshelves and don't want speakers standing on the floors (this is not a dedicated home theater). I know I need to go audition some speakers, but here's what's been recommended so far and I'd like opinions of these various speakers with that receiver and in a room of that sort from anyone who would care to opine:


Martin Logan Motion LX-16 Front speakers, ElectroMotion FX2 Rears/brackets, Motion SLM Center, Dynamo 300 compact subwoofer


Wharfedale Jade 3 Front speakers, Jade SR Rears/brackets, Jade C2 Center, and Velodyne Chrysalis 6.5" 180WATT 8" small subwoofer 10"X 10"X 12"


I've also looked at the Klipsch RB-81 II Bookshelf Speakers with a G28 center, RS-52 II Surround Speakers, and SW-311 Subwoofer. I really like how those look (yes, I'm a girl), but didn't get much interest in those when I mentioned them to the only installer I've gotten a bid from so far.


I don't know much about speakers, and would like to learn more, but don't have enough time to really research the entire subject the way I'd like. So, any opinions would be much appreciated.

 

[10credi]



Quote:
Originally Posted by 10credi  /t/1416739/speakers-for-denon-avr3312ci#post_22154850


So more confusion added for the SUB with HSU which is coming out $610.

So finally according to you

Level TWO Tower Speakers from HTD - $400

Level TWO Center Channel Speaker - $129

Level TWO Bookshelf Speakers - $200

Energy S10.3 - $253

$982 total

Any suggetions, anybody? For around $800 to $1000 budget, any ideas?