OK, I bought an Onkyo HTIB 908, the sub sucks, the center is muddy as heck, the max volume is poor-even with Intellivolume maxed. I bought a BA cnter channel for 250 at CC it was so much louder than the others that I couldn't compensate for it, I returned it. The sub has been thudding lately on a few movies (this is the final straw...) I want a THX certified receiver, 7.1, and Blue-ray capable...Dolby True HD DD+ etc, ethernet upgradeable preferable....I want quality speakers and a sub that will shake the room and not "Thud" or bottom-out or whatever. My center now is muddy even with the treble up a bit, it sounds like it buzzes sometimes during vocals (nothing seems loose, I took the grille off too cause it bugged me so badly...no difference). A co-worker has Klipschs connected to a 500 series and it is insane loud at 50, mine has to be set to 75 for me to feel the audio is good for movies. I have the Onkyo speakers that came with the system, they look fantastic, but I feel they have subpar performance due to the 78db sensitivity, the Klipschs have over 90!, no wonder his are louder. I plan on selling the entire set-up, Rcvr, DVD, 7.1 speaks for less than half what I paid for it (1 year later)....Now the question is, what will satisfy me? I think I am quite picky on the sound now......I have a bitter taste for Onks now so i am thinkin a Denon, BA's-Deftecs-Klipschs-Infinitys, PS3 or Panny Blu-ray. I would be appreciative if anyone would steer me in a good direction, Thanks advance.