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Maybe this is a non-issue and shows how naive I might be about HD. First, Is HD content ever sent in 4:3? if so do STB's output HD 4:3 content in 4:3? I want to avoid 4:3 content getting squashed into a letterbox if possible.


I am lening towads the Samsung SIRT-151 since I no longer see the point of paying more for DVI right now. It is $299 at Walmart.



I guess I also have to find out if my Panasonic HDTV (36HL43) handles 1080i Hi-def 4:3 content in 4:3 mode or if that forces widescreen. When this TV detects widescreen DVD's it forces widescreen with no option to change. I wonder what it does wth 1080i


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All 1080i HD is widescreen 16x9 only. 4x3 televisions are now obsolete. Save an purchase widescreen set.
 

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Some HD-STBs will allow you to zoom in on the 16x9 HD to fill the 4x3 screen. The DTC-100 is one of those. It also works great for 4x3 programs broadcast in a 16x9 HD channel.
 

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4:3 is far from obsolete. I have a 4-year-old and 2-year-old with lots of VHS, video games and as far as I can tell 99% of USA broadcasts still in 4:3. Further, when in the local TV specialist I saw HDTV and every channel was really showing EDTV at 4:3.


In five years when the standards and technologies have been figure out I will go 16:9, Plasma, whatever.


Moot point, however, since I have learned that my Panasonic takes all 1080i and automatically displays in 16:9. I guess I would have to adjust the STB to send as 480i or 480p when something is in 4:3, right?


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Bruce


Moot point, however, since I have learned that my Panasonic takes all 1080i and automatically displays in 16:9. I guess I would have to adjust the STB to send as 480i or 480p when something is in 4:3, right?


Andrew


I noticed, in your first post you said you were leaning toward a Samsung STR151, but before you buy one, you might want to consider the following.


Last weekend I picked up one of these to play with, and have it hooked up to a Sony 61HS10. The Sony is a 4:3 TV, but is adjustable to 16:9, and if I feed it anything higher than 480p it automatically locks itself into 16:9 mode, like you describe your Panny doing. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the Samsung STBs output everything at the one output resolution you select with the switch at the back of the box, regardless of the resolution of the signal it is receiving. There is no option to have a variable or native resolution passthrough output.


There are several other nitpicks I have with this STB, but this one is an absolute deal breaker for me, so it is going back to the store this weekend.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. In terms of pass-thru the Panny I have does not remotely support 720p so a native pass thru would need me to fiddle with it anyway. One huge strike against the Panny monitor.


What other STB's are you looking at?


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Thanks for the feedback. In terms of pass-thru the Panny I have does not remotely support 720p so a native pass thru would need me to fiddle with it anyway. One huge strike against the Panny monitor.


What other STB's are you looking at?


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If your set doesn't support 720p (neither does mine, yet :D ), then no biggie. Having a variable output option means that you get a choice of outputing 720p and 1080i signals in either 720p or 1080i, whichever your set will support, and 480i/p gets left alone in 480. Best of both worlds.


I'm currently now anxiously awaiting the arrival of the new LG (formerly known as Zenith) sets, or any of their clones, such as the Sony.
 

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I also have a panasonic 4:3 and have had several issues with aspect ratio. So far the only solution that seems to work for OTA is the Panasonic STB (I have the tu-dst52). I think because Panasonic knows that their TV's do some unique things they offer different aspect ratios on their STB. My problem is the reverse of yours - it won't put anything in a 16X9 window, the STB has to do it specifically and the Panny boxes are one of the few that have this feature - of course doesnt do much for QAM or satellite, but i'm still working on that


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I also own a dst52 and it seems more convenient than some. With a click you can change out put to 1080i, hybrid (1080i, 270p --> 1080i, 480i/p --> 480i/p), or 480i. With another click you can change the aspect ratio to letter-boxed (so you can display 16:9 on any 4:3 TV), wide-zoom (cut the side bars to display full screen 4:3 material), and normal of course. Then it depends on your TV too. Most if not all 4:3 HDTV will squeeze 1080i source into 16:9 aspect ratio, defeating your attempt to display 4:3 material in full screen. My XBR450 does, I think yours too. What I and most do is to change output to 480i, losing some quality but in return getting the full picture. I keep asking why the TV designer and the STB designer from the same company don't talk to each other but have not yet got the answer. Good luck in your purchase and enjoy your viewing.
 

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I plunked down for a Zenith 420 from Circuit City since it was heavily discounted thanks to a slight dent in the side of the casing.


I will post results after the antenna is installed early next week. What would really help people is a thread on STB Model TV Model issues.
 

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I picked up a Sammy SIRT-151 for $79 as an open box buy and use it with my 9" portable TV in the kitchen. Every program I've played displays in 4:3 mode, even the wide screen shows like everyone loves raymond. I had a Panasonic STB and although much smaller than the Sammy, it had lots of issues with black bars.
 

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What do you mean by "issues with black bars"? Besides, I don't think your 9" is 1080i equipped. On a side note, I wonder why ATSC tuner is not mandated in smaller/portable TVs sooner than the larger breed? How can they be portable with all the baggages.
 
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