[Tom Monahan]

I was on the fence but your review pushed me over. 😀 Thanks Ralph! I always get excited when I see a new review posted by you.

 

[Reddig]

Thanks Ralph. I watched this on D+ and thought it looked and sounded really great. Movie had its moments. They definitely emphasized social stuff too much. I’ll prolly pick this and add to my collection. I love watching animations in my theater.

 

[bass addict]

Gone are the days when I could watch a movie without having to endure through someone's agenda. I sure miss the good ol' days.

 

[squared80]

Gone are the days when I could watch a movie without having to endure through someone's agenda. I sure miss the good ol' days.

Just because the movie was bad (and this was) doesn't mean there's some agenda or conspiracy. Would another movie starring or portraying straight, white, middle-aged men help you feel less inconvenienced? Grow up, dude.

 

[bass addict]

Just because the movie was bad (and this was) doesn't mean there's some agenda or conspiracy. Would another movie starring or portraying straight, white, middle-aged men help you feel less inconvenienced? Grow up, dude.

Edited out of respect for Ralphs thread. Thanks for the review.

 

[brazensol]

Edited out of respect for Ralphs thread. Thanks for the review.

I'm with you. I get tired of being preached at when all I want is to be entertained. Can you imagine the outcry if all this SJW and woke crap (and that's exactly what it is) was replaced with a Christian themed message (or anything else of a more traditional flavor).

 

[dnoonie]

Thanks for the review!
I saved this to my rental queue, unfortunately it's a $9 rental! So I think I'll wait till I subscribe to Disney + to give it a test viewing before a possible purchase. I did enjoy my Disney + subscription in December and January but will be queuing up a number of things to watch before I subscribe again.

 

[EdgarQ]

For me it’s okay for art to have messages, traditional or progressive. It helps transcend boundaries when we stop talking to each other directly. For me that means I like a classic like Ben-Hur and a modern twist on race relations like Get Out. But a message only works when the art is actually art. Clumsy, badly written films with either traditional or progressive messages are just hard to watch. We turned off this movie at the 46 minute mark. I was already leaving the room for snacks and things. My 4.5yo then turned to me and said, “Can we stop this and watch ET instead?” I happily obliged.

 

[Emaych]

I'm with you. I get tired of being preached at when all I want is to be entertained. Can you imagine the outcry if all this SJW and woke crap (and that's exactly what it is) was replaced with a Christian themed message (or anything else of a more traditional flavor).

Huh....? SJW and woke messages are the exact same as Christian themed messages. Love your neighbor as yourself -- whatsoever you do to the least of these, you do to me -- love, tolerance, let he who has not sinned cast the first stone -- Christ is the most prominent among any SJW vanguard, preaching ultimate "wokeness" before the term was coined. Correct?

 

[squared80]

Christ is the most prominent among any SJW vanguard, preaching ultimate "wokeness" before the term was coined. Correct?

Only if it fits the narrative you're trying to spin, with an end goal to mask your own biases, bigotry, and insecurities with religion.

 

[Emaych]

Only if it fits the narrative you're trying to spin, with an end goal to mask your own biases, bigotry, and insecurities with religion.

It seems to me that you must have had some meaning in mind when you composed that, but it is lost on me. I merely made the point that Christ's teachings are indistinguishable from "woke" ideology -- they both promote love, acceptance, tolerance -- an expansive embrace of humankind in all its manifestations.

It is quite natural that such themes arise in our culture and are ubiquitously represented in film. Toward the greater good of our community cohesion and empathy, a sense of commonness with our fellow man in this grand adventure of life we are all embarked upon. I'd go so far as to say most films contain these themes. They are universal.

So rather than focus on my particular "narrative" or imputed goal to mask my "own biases, bigotry, and insecurities with religion" (whatever that means), why not just address a refutation of my premise, if that is what you intended to do?

 

[squared80]

So rather than focus on my particular "narrative"

Wasn't a comment directed at you, just a general statement about people who hide behind a veil of religion.

 

[Emaych]

Wasn't a comment directed at you, just a general statement about people who hide behind a veil of religion.

Well, OK -- still not quite connecting with your meaning, but would put forth that some folks who consider themselves Christian seem to abhor the notion that his teachings and "wokeism," as it seems to be defined, are virtually identical. One source I dipped into apparently was using Bible text to suggest Christ was as racist as any common individual of his day. Now I am not biblical scholar enough to be able to mount a truly informed counter to that point of view, it just seems to shatter any understanding I might have of what he has always represented in my life and to culture at large.

In any case, our friend brazensol above, seemed to think that not only were Christian principles antithetical to the tenets of "wokeism," which he identified as present in STRANGE WORLD, but that a Christian message in the movie might actually trigger great hew and cry among SJW and "woke" types. Apart from a specific identification of Jesus as the Christ, and thus explicit religionism, I find the two perspectives in perfect accord and not at all troubling to find in my movie entertainment, so his contention struck me as discordant.

That is all.

 

[gbaby]

I tried to watch this movie, but I had to turn it off. I see why Disneys unnecessarily has pissed off Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida.

 

[Emaych]

I tried to watch this movie, but I had to turn it off. I see why Disneys unnecessarily has pissed off Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida.

Wouldn't know anything about that (and a search for that connection yielded nothing for me), but do tell, why not just share what had you turning it off? Ralph seemed to think it could be enjoyed by everyone, and I trust his appraisals....

 

[dnoonie]

Well, OK -- still not quite connecting with your meaning, but would put forth that some folks who consider themselves Christian seem to abhor the notion that his teachings and "wokeism," as it seems to be defined, are virtually identical. One source I dipped into apparently was using Bible text to suggest Christ was as racist as any common individual of his day. Now I am not biblical scholar enough to be able to mount a truly informed counter to that point of view, it just seems to shatter any understanding I might have of what he has always represented in my life and to culture at large.

In any case, our friend brazensol above, seemed to think that not only were Christian principles antithetical to the tenets of "wokeism," which he identified as present in STRANGE WORLD, but that a Christian message in the movie might actually trigger great hew and cry among SJW and "woke" types. Apart from a specific identification of Jesus as the Christ, and thus explicit religionism, I find the two perspectives in perfect accord and not at all troubling to find in my movie entertainment, so his contention struck me as discordant.

That is all.

An specific example of "woke" might help, IT Inclusive Language Guide

 

[Emaych]

An specific example of "woke" might help, IT Inclusive Language Guide

Thanks for that link, friend -- very interesting. It claims not to be exhaustive, but offers a pretty in-depth examination of etymologies examining how words/idioms perpetuate racist/sexist/ageist hierarchies. Now I suppose you adduce that exemplar to expose how extreme and potentially absurd "language police" might veer in service of "wokeness," but I found it enlightening as to how we unconsciously (and without ill-intent, it is fair to note), contribute to oppression and possible offense.

These things are worth thinking about, and do absolutely adhere to themes in life, as well as the movies. that humans are best served by following the imperative to be loving, compassionate, non-judgmental, inclusive, welcoming to all our brothers and sisters in this flesh of any color.

Ralph seemed to think that the social messaging here in STRANGE WORLD might have imbalanced the presentation's other aspects, but did conclude that it could be enjoyed by everyone, so doesn't strike me as to be so heavy-handed as to be oppressive, or invite faulting it for extremist inanity.

As to woke goals conforming to Christ's teaching, I offer:

A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. Jesus Christ
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Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to cast a stone. Jesus Christ
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All the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, you shall not kill, you shall not steal, you shall not covet, and so on, are summed up in this single command: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus Christ
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"For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and everyone who humbles himself will be exalted." - Luke 14:11

"But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you." - Luke 6:27-28

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" - Matthew 5:43-44

"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." - Matthew 22:37-40

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." - Matthew 5:16

If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. Jesus Christ
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So sounds to me like the utmost rule of life is to love others as yourself -- draw no distinctions, hold unto yourself no false pride or vainglorious illusion that you are above or greater than others. That hate and spite and pride only serve to hold one from the realization of God's kingdom.

Now I'm not a Biblical scholar, and at least one source I consulted asserted that Jesus was an overt racist, and even referred to some people as "dogs," but that doesn't really jibe with the quotes we know as Christ's teachings, I think. So I conclude that movie themes can be fully in conformity to Christ's teachings and to woke ideology, which amounts to the same thing.

I hope I've made my points clear, and welcome your input.

 

[Ralph Potts]

Greetings,

Okay, let's get the discussion back on topic please.

Regards,

 

[JeffR1]

Hmmm...
I was sort on the fence with this one Ralph, looked a little young for me.

However from what seemed like a harmless children's movie with a message and how the discussions here have morphed into what has become some serious Bible quoting, amongst other things; I think I will watch this now. 🧐

Looks like the 4K version won't be available in Canada, when I checked Blu-ray.com, it pointed to eBay of all places. 🙄
Ebay is such a "CROCK", the least expensive one so far is 25.00$ and 25.00$ to ship it.