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Stuck with bookshelf speakers for HT; need suggestions

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I am doing a HT setup in my rec room. The basic layout is this: 14'x25 ft room with the HT along the left side of the room projecting along the short axis. Another room opens off to the left by way of archways on either side of a fireplace, and a room opens off to the back as well. A pool table is off to the right, and a descending open staircase is directly behind. This is, of course, an acoustically ideal environment.


Because of serious WAF interference re free standing tower speakers (they would block the archway into the other room) I am going to have to do bookshelf speakers mounted in the wall on either side of the screen. I need some advice re the speaker choices and appropriate front end. I'd like to mention what I've listened to, both freestanding and bookshelf, and would like to solicit advice on how to proceed.


towers: Def Tech 2002, Ariel Acoustic 7, NHT 2.9. I definitely liked the open detailed sound of the AA over the DTs and feel that the NHT were very close to the AA. Of course, I can't use any of them as they are towers and would have to sit out in the room, a no-no.


In terms of bookshelf speakers, I have listened to the M+K 150THX, the DefTech 200s, Sonus Faber concerto and the NHT VS-2a. I liked the NHT the best, I think, although I couldn't A/B them in the same store. However, they seemed detailed and open. I must caution that I am a beginner at this, and I may very well be simply hearing brightness as opposed to a more neutral speaker setup; however, the NHTs sounded quite good. i haven't yet heard the B+W CDM1 or the PSB Stratus Gold, but I understand that Stereophile and other mags have rated them quite highly. Does anyone have any opinion re these choices, or others to offer? In addition, am I right in concluding that if I am going to stick these things in the wall I am definitly better off staying with the bookshelf speakers and not trying to incorporate large towers into alcoves?


finally, I have been following the posts re pre/pros and amps. Is it a waste of money to buy a good pre/pro and amp if I am going to ony be using them with cheese-O bookshelf speakers? I had been thinking of the proceed AVP2500 or a used Lexicaon DC-1 (a suggestion was also made to consider the Sherwood pre/pro--comments?) mated to an outlaw amp. But would I be just as well off with a Denon, yamaha, Marantz, Rotel, or other unit? Another combo would be the Sony TA E9000ES, which has gotten an excellent review in The Perfect Vision for its DSP sound field creation. This, mated to an Outlaw, would be about $2500 and might have the potential to alleviate some of the sound compromises with the in wall bookshelfs. While we can all use the extra cash, what is the right way to do it in this "sort of compromised" setup? I do have a budget of about 2500-3500 for the pre/pro-amp, but could always spend it on something else.


Any help would be deeply appreciated. And if any one has a URL or phone number for used equipment it would also be helpful. my email if necessary is [email protected]


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ham,


Wall mounting bookshelf speakers, you'll need to consider speaker design. You can't wall mount speakers that vent to the rear unless they are intended to be mounted this way (Polk sells some like this). So you are restricted to acoustic suspension (no ports) or speakers that port to the front. You'll get much better performance with bookshelf speakers versus in-walls. Make sure you get brackets that will allow you to swivel the speakers so you can position them for best sound. My only advice on bookshelf speakers is to get speakers with fairly good low frequency extension (at least 60Hz). Otherwise they will not blend well with a subwoofer. I would get some stands (or just stack some concrete blocks) and try as many speakers as you can in your room at the proper height (tweeters at ear level). Speakers will sound very different depending on the room, so your dealer should let you audition a lot of speakers. As for brands, I think you're on the right track. I am partial to Canadian speakers, so I recommend Paradigm, Energy, PSB, and Mirage. I would also recommend looking into mail-order speaker manufacturers. Look at ACI ( www.audioc.com ) and give the owner Mike Dzerko a call. He is very knowledgeable and will likely be able to give you good advice on speakers suitable for wall mounting. You don't mention a subwoofer, I'm assuming you're getting one as they are essential for HT with bookshelf speakers.


As for separates vs. a receiver, with the quality of receivers these days that's a tough call. For ease of use and installation, a receiver is very nice. Since you're a novice, you might want to go the receiver route. I don't think you'll lose that much in performance assuming you get fairly sensitive speakers (around 90dB/W or so) and a powered subwoofer reproducing all the bass.
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AA makes a 'Model 5' monitor style speaker. You might also want to audition Paradigm Studio 20s and 40s (or get Active's if you want built in amplification).

The above speakers and the NHTs will reveal poor electronics very quickly. A used Lexicon/Outlaw combo will definately beat out the other brands that you've listed. The Lexicon is also upgradeable (receivers and other gear you listed is not).

Avdoc had some good advice about mounting the bookshelf speakers. You might also want to check out some of the Martin Logan and other panel speakers that are made for flush wall mounting.


Greg

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