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Stuck with chosing first HD display

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Hello everyone,


Here is my unique situation. I am wanting to upgrade my current 27" Tube tv to a 37"-42" HDTV. The only device that I use that will even utilize the HD is my Xbox360. I have dish satellite service, a wii, and a normal (composite) DVD player. I don't need 1080p (from what i've read, you won't notice it on displays under 50"ish) so 720p will work lovely for me. I do, however, want something that doesn't look like total rubbage with the SD programming I have. I don't currently plan on getting HD service (not in the near future anyway-new child, etc)


Any advice/pointers would be greatly appreciated.


I'd like to get something right at around a grand. Also, viewing distance is about 8 feet. Something around there. Thanks in advance for the help!!
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Samsung 4053h


Sony 40s3000


Toshiba 42hl67u


not necessarily in that order; visit A/V stores for what pleases you.


p.s. & good set of rabbit ears for local HD channels to appreciate it.
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I have the Samsung 4053h and agree with daniel'son about it being a very good choice. Excellent picture.
how does SD programming look on the Samsung? It's a little more than I can afford to spend (will have to save a bit longer). That's really my main concern. My wife will use the TV more than myself and I know she won't understand why we paid a lot for a TV if the SD doesn't look good. (I know how to explain it, but she won't get it)



I live in a very small area. The only thing (within 100 miles) is a Walmart for electronics purchases, unless you want to rent something forever. I was wondering if this one would be close to the aforementioned Samsung

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5691335


It's not the 4053h, it's a LNT4032HX

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Originally Posted by mynameismud /forum/post/12858102


how does SD programming look on the Samsung? It's a little more than I can afford to spend (will have to save a bit longer). That's really my main concern. My wife will use the TV more than myself and I know she won't understand why we paid a lot for a TV if the SD doesn't look good. (I know how to explain it, but she won't get it)



I live in a very small area. The only thing (within 100 miles) is a Walmart for electronics purchases, unless you want to rent something forever. I was wondering if this one would be close to the aforementioned Samsung

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5691335


It's not the 4053h, it's a LNT4032HX

Samsung 4053h: (b&h; free ship; v.good online vendor; order'd fm personally)
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P14568188.html


Sony 40s3000: (b&h; free ship; 20 tomalies >)
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...y=sony+40s3000


Toshiba 42hl67u: (same, same; http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...oshiba+42hl67u
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I greatly appreciate the links. I must have been looking at the wrong places when I first searched.


When the TV's Specs say "TV SCAN Lines - SDTV - 480i" does that mean that it will display SD programming at 480i, so there really won't be any difference between viewing SD programming on a normal tube tv then on an HDTV?


Sorry for my n00biness on the issue.

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Originally Posted by daniel'son /forum/post/12858281


Samsung 4053h: (b&h; add ship; v.good online vendor; order'd fm personally)
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P14568188.html


Sony 40s3000: (b&h; add ship; 20 tomalies >)
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...y=sony+40s3000


Toshiba 42hl67u: (same, add ship; http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...oshiba+42hl67u

correction: add ship: ~140

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Originally Posted by mynameismud /forum/post/12858320


I greatly appreciate the links. I must have been looking at the wrong places when I first searched.


When the TV's Specs say "TV SCAN Lines - SDTV - 480i" does that mean that it will display SD programming at 480i, so there really won't be any difference between viewing SD programming on a normal tube tv then on an HDTV?


Sorry for my n00biness on the issue.

The LCD will upconvert 480i to its native resolution 720p or 1080p but different sets vary in upconversion quality.


CD

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Originally Posted by Cattledog /forum/post/12858478


The LCD will upconvert 480i to its native resolution 720p or 1080p but different sets vary in upconversion quality.


CD

I'm definitely looking for a set that will do good in upconversion, or else my wife may leave me.

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Originally Posted by mynameismud /forum/post/12858320


I greatly appreciate the links. I must have been looking at the wrong places when I first searched.


When the TV's Specs say "TV SCAN Lines - SDTV - 480i" does that mean that it will display SD programming at 480i, so there really won't be any difference between viewing SD programming on a normal tube tv then on an HDTV?


Sorry for my n00biness on the issue.

From what I've gathered here .. a 720i set will show more resolution (of course), so-o-o-o, the 480i signal you received via CRT will show abit grainy on the HD set cause SD channels do not have the greater number of bits/bites normal to enhanced DTV (digital TV) viewing. note: cattle's input .. he knows his stuff.


In this case, Sony does (seen personally) a good job of displaying SD. I don't know about the Samsung and the Toshiba probably wouldn't do it well.


I'm no expert, but maybe someone else can assist on the technical side.


p.s. with economy woes/possible cash influx & SB party, prices could swing your way.
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If you buy the LNT 4053 at Amazon, there is no tax or shipping, so it would probably come out nearly the same as buying locally for you. The Wal Mart tv you show will be missing elements and probably quality from the 4053. I got mine at Amazon and they are good and reputable, even have a 30 day return/price match policy. I find Samsungs do as good a job as any on SD upconversion.


I posted the following at another forum when asked the question about SD, so I'm posting it here in case you want more info about that aspect of these tvs:


SD TV is a real mixed bag. Some things I have found:


1. If you get an HD cable box and watch SD tv on their HD tier of channels, the reception is almost always excellent. I use component cables with FIOS TV and find the SD looks almost as good as HD on this tier, only in a 4:3 aspect. If you plan to stretch the SD signal to fit the tv, you will loose picture quality and the people will look fat. Plasma may require you to do this to avoid burn in lines on the screen. Something to think about.


2. The SD channels on the plain digital tier can be good or not so good, depending on the quality of the particular channel's signal and quality of original filming/taping.


3. SD channels received from a non HD cable box are not good due to limitations of the type of cables you can use, generally no component output is available on these boxes.


4. The provider you subscribe to can compress signals so much that SD and even HD reception can suffer.


So, if you have an excellent provider who does not compress the signal, use an HD box and stay in the HD tier, it all looks great.


Otherwise, the above is what I have found.
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Originally Posted by mynameismud /forum/post/12858547


I'm definitely looking for a set that will do good in upconversion, or else my wife may leave me.

is that a bad thing?



Go with Sony...very good SD
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Why not get a 1080p TV. If you will notice the difference or not depends on how close you sit to it. Also 1920X1080 is much better than 1280X720 by far if you ever decide to use the display as a PC monitor. When used as a PC monitor the difference between 1080 and 720 is huge even if you sit relatively far away. I got rid of my only 720p about 6 months ago and now all my HD screens are 1080p.
I think 40 is too big for a viewing distance of 8 ft. I have a 37 inch with my viewing distance of 8 ft also and If I'm not watching HD, it is very hard on the eyes. Well at least mine...

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Originally Posted by firstolevia /forum/post/12860445


I think 40 is too big for a viewing distance of 8 ft. I have a 37 inch with my viewing distance of 8 ft also and If I'm not watching HD, it is very hard on the eyes. Well at least mine...

I'm starting to think this way. My living room is really small and I don't want to get something that looks ridiculous. I'm really liking the way that the Sony is looking. I was wondering if there is a 37" version of the aforementioned Sony?

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Originally Posted by mynameismud /forum/post/12863073


I'm starting to think this way. My living room is really small and I don't want to get something that looks ridiculous. I'm really liking the way that the Sony is looking. I was wondering if there is a 37" version of the aforementioned Sony?

Sony has 32" S3000:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P15075210.html


Best in 37" is probably Samsung LNT3753H:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...query=lnt3753h


edit: Sony does have 37M3000:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P17164844.html


Panasonic 32lx700 also very good choice:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P14684742.html
http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/...duct/sv=button
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Originally Posted by daniel'son /forum/post/12863249


Sony has 32" S3000:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P15075210.html


Best in 37" is probably Samsung LNT3753H:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...query=lnt3753h


edit: Sony does have 37M3000:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P17164844.html


Panasonic 32lx700 also very good choice:
http://www.streetprices.com/TVs/LCD/...P14684742.html
http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/...duct/sv=button

I'm seriously considering the Sony 37m3000. I have read though that the M series is the worst of all of them. And that they don't use the same video processor that others do?



I'm wondering if anyone here has that tv and what they think about it. I'm sorry to keep bringing up this old post but I'm really stuck.

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Originally Posted by mynameismud /forum/post/12974178


I'm seriously considering the Sony 37m3000. I have read though that the M series is the worst of all of them. And that they don't use the same video processor that others do?



I'm wondering if anyone here has that tv and what they think about it. I'm sorry to keep bringing up this old post but I'm really stuck.

I got the 40S3000 few weeks ago and I love this set! Upscaler is very good, I got NS77H also, and picture quality is the same whether display or LCD does the scaling.

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Originally Posted by iamian /forum/post/12974372


I got the 40S3000 few weeks ago and I love this set! Upscaler is very good, I got NS77H also, and picture quality is the same whether display or LCD does the scaling.

See. I've heard good things about the S series is awesome. But I've heard bad things about the M series. Arghh.
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why not buy at Bestbuy or circuitcity and go with the 36 months no interest for new TV?
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