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Ok, lets start with the obvious, I am cheap. Now that we have that out of the way let me explain what I am wanting.


I am a HUGE fan of XBMC. That said I dont know of any way under 100 bucks to get a decent small compact XBMC build baring Raspberry Pi, which I understand can be slightly buggy, and am still not sure if it can do lossless blu-ray audio.


I am currently ripping my blu-ray collection to another computer using MakeMKV. I am keeping the blu-ray movie and the lossless audio and not compressing them. So I am giving up lots of storage space, but keeping the files original (OCD about that).


I simply need a device to stream the MKV's and corresponding audio through my wired network to downstairs. I will connect this device via HDMI to my Integra and surround sound system. I will control it with the Harmony One remote.


I would "like" the interface to look nice and be relatively easy to navigate with a XBMC like list of the movies and also music.


I could give a crap about the following: Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, etc. All are covered by my Xbox 360 and soon to be Xbox One. I simply need media playback of MKV files.


So what suggested devices should I be looking at? AM I WRONG about Raspberry Pi?.


I am open to suggestions.
 

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Seems like there are a lot of options:


Roku 3 running Plex - about $100

Google TV running Plex - about $130 (Sony NSZ-GS7)

Gbox Midnight running XBMC


I use the Sony NSZ-GS7 running Plex, connected to my HP Mediasmart server running Plex server software. Works great.
 

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Originally Posted by malaugh  /t/1511864/sub-100-dollar-streamer#post_24210259


Seems like there are a lot of options:


Roku 3 running Plex - about $100

Google TV running Plex - about $130 (Sony NSZ-GS7)

Gbox Midnight running XBMC


I use the Sony NSZ-GS7 running Plex, connected to my HP Mediasmart server running Plex server software. Works great.

I found another one. PIVOS XIOS DS.


Looks to be able to run XBMC on Linux decent, but some report lots of lag, others report none.


I LIKE XBMC since I am somewhat familiar with how it works.


I think for now I will just get all the movies ripped to a 3 TB drive on my main system and play with XBMC on it. Once I get it down I will check this again.
 

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I found another one. PIVOS XIOS DS.


Looks to be able to run XBMC on Linux decent, but some report lots of lag, others report none.


I LIKE XBMC since I am somewhat familiar with how it works.


I think for now I will just get all the movies ripped to a 3 TB drive on my main system and play with XBMC on it. Once I get it down I will check this again.
Personally, I don't mind the extra work to get XBMC working (I've only done Windows so far) because of the pay-off. Sounds like you might also be in this group.

 

Others (like my brother) couldn't care less as long as the movies play. He's also, not real good with computers. Anyway, I helped him install two WD-TV-SMP. They work really well. See the thread here:

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1364999/official-wd-tv-live-streaming-media-player-thread
 

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Personally, I don't mind the extra work to get XBMC working (I've only done Windows so far) because of the pay-off. Sounds like you might also be in this group.


Others (like my brother) couldn't care less as long as the movies play. He's also, not real good with computers. Anyway, I helped him install two WD-TV-SMP. They work really well. See the thread here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1364999/official-wd-tv-live-streaming-media-player-thread

I am in the IT field, and I know my way around XBMC a bit, hence not being super scared of it. With that said I want to make sure the hardware works with 1080p and lossless audio and is worth the payoff. I dont know if there are any sub 100 streamers out there that can do that for sure.


But again, I dont have tons of time, so the WD TV is intriguing, however since I use XBMC upstairs in my 2 channel system, and on my laptop, I would prefer to NOT have to learn another interface...
 

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WD Live cant do DTS-MA, only DTS and downscales to 5.1 from 7.1. That for me is a dealbreaker.
 

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Originally Posted by EndersShadow  /t/1511864/sub-100-dollar-streamer#post_24212239



I am in the IT field, and I know my way around XBMC a bit, hence not being super scared of it. With that said I want to make sure the hardware works with 1080p and lossless audio and is worth the payoff. I dont know if there are any sub 100 streamers out there that can do that for sure.


But again, I dont have tons of time, so the WD TV is intriguing, however since I use XBMC upstairs in my 2 channel system, and on my laptop, I would prefer to NOT have to learn another interface...
WDTV-SMP has always bitstreamed DD/AC3 and DTS 5.1. Even True-HD but with DTS-HD you just got 5.1 core.

 

Someone said this in that thread a while back: Using a wired network it has the chops to play high bitrate 1080p BluRay rips perfectly. I use native 1080p BD.m2ts files and my highest bitrate titles are 42 Mbps.

 

Those players are at my brother's house so I can't check them. I know it plays most MKV no problem. You can always pick it up at BestBuy and take it back if you don't like it. A recent firmware update suppose-ably finally enables full decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio. Lots of good info in that thread. He really likes his and runs two off a wired gigabit network. I have him using his Win7-64 desktop as file-server. Also, be aware that newer WD-Play is a different machine (lesser I think ... or geared more toward streaming than local playback like we are doing).
 

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WDTV-SMP has always bitstreamed DD/AC3 and DTS 5.1. Even True-HD but with DTS-HD you just got 5.1 core.


Someone said this in that thread a while back: Using a wired network it has the chops to play high bitrate 1080p BluRay rips perfectly. I use native 1080p BD.m2ts files and my highest bitrate titles are 42 Mbps.


Those players are at my brother's house so I can't check them. I know it plays most MKV no problem. You can always pick it up at BestBuy and take it back if you don't like it. A recent firmware update suppose-ably finally enables full decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio. Lots of good info in that thread. He really likes his and runs two off a wired gigabit network. I have him using his Win7-64 desktop as file-server. Also, be aware that newer WD-Play is a different machine (lesser I think ... or geared more toward streaming than local playback like we are doing).

Yeah, I am farther in the thread and see they JUST updated to allow that. So I might take a swing at it. I need to find some reviews online with video showing the interface of it as I REALLY liked the interface of XBMC, so I still may go with a PIVOS or however you spell it with a linux based XBMC instal.
 

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Also this will be wired as well. I have a switch in my entertainment rack since I have a Xbox 360, Uverse DVR, Smart TV all right there.
 

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Since CES 2014 I've become interested in Android TV again. I think this is going to become the best, most economical choice for XBMC in the next few months.
 

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Dunno. Right now it still can't stream std-ma or truehd. Abd it's a hardware limitation currently.
 

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Looks like you want the Bread, the butter and want to keep the money to buy them.


If you are looking for fast ui, bd ISO streaming, dts-hd and ddtruhd, xbmc you won't find a sub 100$ , hell you Will have a tough time to find a decent 300$ to do it. If I were you I'd wait to have the money and I'd build a small form factor htpc.


I've tried the ouya, Apple TV 2, pivos (this one sucks bad), raspberry pi (best of the bunch if you choose your skin wisely and use Spmc). But feature will be missing at this price point, mostly no hd audio or ISO support


You could also check out "the little black box"


If you find that dream box let me know


Good luck



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Originally Posted by Sarlan19  /t/1511864/sub-100-dollar-streamer#post_24218853


Looks like you want the Bread, the butter and want to keep the money to buy them.


If you are looking for fast ui, bd ISO streaming, dts-hd and ddtruhd, xbmc you won't find a sub 100$ , hell you Will have a tough time to find a decent 300$ to do it. If I were you I'd wait to have the money and I'd build a small form factor htpc.


I've tried the ouya, Apple TV 2, pivos (this one sucks bad), raspberry pi (best of the bunch if you choose your skin wisely and use Spmc). But feature will be missing at this price point, mostly no hd audio or ISO support


You could also check out "the little black box"


If you find that dream box let me know


Good luck



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Yup it appears your correct. I will just keep using my laptop for now and connect it as needed.


Will focus on upping my storage capability for now.
 

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Why not the WDTV Live smp? Or the KDlinks?

Simply put they lack the graphical display of data the way I want. They look too much like accessing computer files and not enough like picking movies


XBMC is hard to beat from a skin's perspective.
 

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Simply put they lack the graphical display of data the way I want. They look too much like accessing computer files and not enough like picking movies


XBMC is hard to beat from a skin's perspective.

Apparently you haven't really looked at the SMP then. Plus alot of the custom themes are made to look like and mimic XBMC.
 

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Apparently you haven't really looked at the SMP then. Plus alot of the custom themes are made to look like and mimic XBMC.

Trust me I have. I watched a bunch of different video's showing it in action. The "look" may mimic XBMC, but the ability to customize or remote sections of the main menu dont exist. All I need is either Video's or Music. I dont need Setup, Files, etc. And those are options I cannot remove from the screen with the WD Live.


In addition when you select a "Movie" off your computer you browse to it similar to Windows Explorer.


I want something more like this





which unless I am missing something is NOT how the WD Live will display the titles.


I dont need Netflix, Amazon, Pandora, etc as all those are served up via my Xbox 360.
 

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Originally Posted by EndersShadow  /t/1511864/sub-100-dollar-streamer#post_24222385


Trust me I have. I watched a bunch of different video's showing it in action. The "look" may mimic XBMC, but the ability to customize or remote sections of the main menu dont exist. All I need is either Video's or Music. I dont need Setup, Files, etc. And those are options I cannot remove from the screen with the WD Live.


In addition when you select a "Movie" you browse to it similar to Windows Explorer.


I want something more like this





which unless I am missing something is NOT how the WD Live will display the titles.

Yes the SMP can display movies just like that and you can remove the options in the main setup by modify the xmls in the theme.
 

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Yes the SMP can display movies just like that and you can remove the options in the main setup by modify the xmls in the theme.

So when you talk about modifying xml's your talking about hacking it then I take it?
 
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