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A long time ago I started a thread looking to purchase a sub. I ended up going with a PSW 125 as it matched my speakers I had purchased. I am not extremely happy with that choice.


I am going to be upgrading my fronts from T90e's (the European version of the Monitor 60's) to RTI A9's in the near future. I also will be changing my center from a CS2 which is sonically matched to the Monitor series to a CSi A6 which is matched to the RTI series.


I really doubt that the PSW125 will keep up with the RTI A9's. As such I began looking at that old thread and seeing what subs I might be interested in. I came up with the list below.


BrandModelCostWattageSub Size
Elemental Designs (Ed)A2-300$350200 RMS12"
Outlaw AudioLFM-1 Compact$399225 RSM10"
HSUVTF-1$449200 RMS10"
SVSPB10-NSD$449325 RMS10"
HSUVTF-2 MK3$549250 RMS12"
Outlaw AudioLFM-1 Plus$549350 RMS12"
SVSPB12-NSD$569325 RMS12"
Outlaw AudioLFM-EX1$649350 RMS12"
Polk AudioDSW 600 Pro$680250 Watt12"
SVSPB-12 Plus$1,139525 RMS12"
Definitive TechSupercube I$1,2001500 watts10"

Please let me know your thoughts on these subs. I am slightly wary as I cannot listen to these subs in a store (that I know of). Any other suggestions on subs not on this list would be appreciated.


Here is a list of my current speakers. They are all driven by an Integra 5.9 reciever.

ModelPositionWattageImpedanceEfficiencyLower -3dB LimitUpper -3dB LimitFrequency Response
Polk T90eFronts20 - 200 w/channel8 ohms90 dB48Hz24kHz38Hz - 25kHz
Polk CS2Center20 - 175 w/channel8 ohms90 dB60Hz24kHz55Hz - 25kHz
Polk R50'sSurrounds20 - 150 w/channel8 ohms90 dB50Hz20kHz40Hz - 24kHz
Polk PSW125Sub300 watts34 Hz dB??32Hz-225Hz

My room layout is like the crappy picture below (I do not have the optional fireplace in my apartment):
 

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It looks like you have no seating in the 'prime' area you would want seats. The rear couch looks to be a bit too far back imo...and I'm not sure if that rear surround really does point forward but it shows in the diagram it does, which I wouldn't think it should. Personally I would send that same diagram to HSU or SVS and have them give a recommendation. They know better than anyone what would work in that arrangement. At least going with either of those companies you know you're getting a top quality product that will leave you very satisfied.
 

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Originally Posted by Danielson99 /forum/post/17015110


It looks like you have no seating in the 'prime' area you would want seats. The rear couch looks to be a bit too far back imo...and I'm not sure if that rear surround really does point forward but it shows in the diagram it does, which I wouldn't think it should. Personally I would send that same diagram to HSU or SVS and have them give a recommendation. They know better than anyone what would work in that arrangement. At least going with either of those companies you know you're getting a top quality product that will leave you very satisfied.

I concur, however given the glass sliding door, there is no way to move the couch forward without blocking it.


Also you are correct in that the side surround (which is a floorstanding loudspeaker) is not pointed correctly, however once again it is due to the layout. If I turn it sideways (the correct orientation) you cannot get into the dining room as the couch blocks you from doing so.


I might indeed email this diagram to those guys, however I am sure many of you out there have some of these subs and I am curious as to your opinions on them.


I will try to take some pictures tonight to post so you can get a better idea of how it actually looks (rather than my horrible scale picture)
 

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I'm looking at the same category subwoofer and really leaning towards the PB12-NSD. I am probably going to pull the trigger on that one soon. Seems like in this price range, people either have the PB12-NSD and love it, or they're comparing THEIR sub TO it! Good luck.
 

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I'd look at a B-stock sub from Outlaw; the Plus and EX can be had for $474 and $574 shipped, respectively

Good to know. Anyone have any experience with their B stock? If so how did yours look, any blemishes, marks, or did it look like it was brand new?
 

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After some emails back and forth from SVS I have decided I am going to go with one of their subs. The question now I have is if I go with a box sub or a cylinder? Below are the subs I am considering:

BrandModelTypeCostWattageSub SizeHWDWeight
SVSPB12-NSDBox$569325 RMS12"18182574
SVSPC-12NSDCylinder$569325 RMS12"35161659
SVSPC-12 PlusCylinder$949525 RMS12"40161660
SVSPB-12 PlusBox$1,099525 RMS12"211925127

Any suggestions or comments?
 

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Pick a sub line (NSD, Plus), decide which form factor you like better (box, cylinder), and get that sub. Real world performance should be nearly indistinguishable between the boxes and cylinders. SVS always says to simply choose the form factor that works best for you and get that sub.
 
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