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Budget: $500 but always ready to pay a littoe extra for quality


Room size: 20x18ft with vaulted ceilings up to 14ft, sub will be in a corner where the ceiling is 8ft, fairly open to the kitchen/dining, sub will be sitting on carpet


Uses: 70% movies, 20% music, 10% gaming


Listening habits: While watching movies wont really blast it but would like to have great sound from action scenes/explosions. While listening to music, I like to listen to it loud, I listen to electronic music so it has lots of bass but would like the bass to be crisp not very boomy.


Appearance: Doesnt matter


I also would like to purchase this within the next month. Right now I have Klipsch RF82iis fronts with RC62ii center with a pioneer 1021-k receiver. I have no idea in which direction to start looking. If you guys can give me some suggestions that would be great.
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Given the size of your room, I would go with

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2-mk3.html


or even the VTF-3 (if you need more power and a rosenut finish)

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-3-mk3.html


These units give you bass extension mode, so you could either go with lower frequency response (down to 18 Hz) or maximum output. Good luck
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That's a large space for that budget. My suggestions would be Epik Legend, Rythmik FV12, Hsu VTF-2 MK3. The Rythmik and Hsu are both ported 12" subs with 250-300w. The Epik is sealed with (2) 12" drivers on opposite sides of the cabinet and a 300 watt amp. The Legend would probably keep up well with the ported subs for movies given it has twice the cone area and would easily surpass them for output and sound quality with music especially if you listen loud. All three are $500 plus shipping.

Good luck.
Hey anonymouse99 I started typing first but got interrupted


Dzack02, all kidding aside, you can't go wrong with any of those three choices since all three do movies and music well at that price point.
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Hey anonymouse99 I started typing first but got interrupted


All kidding aside you can't go wrong with any of those three choices since all three do movies and music well at that price point.
I agree, your choices are great
- one thing about the Hsu subs ... They use BASH amps, supposed to be efficient, generate less heat and weigh less (although this may not be that big a deal in your selection) as indicated by THIS link.
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Originally Posted by capecodorthopod
Hey anonymouse99 I started typing first but got interrupted


Dzack02, all kidding aside, you can't go wrong with any of those three choices since all three do movies and music well at that price point.
How would you place the Epik in a corner of the room if it has drivers on opposite sides?
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Also, What is the difference between ported and non-ported subs... pros/cons?
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How would you place the Epik in a corner of the room if it has drivers on opposite sides?
Any way you like as long as you give 3" between drivers and wall. I would probably place it diagonally so the amp is facing the corner but it should be fine with a driver facing a sidewall or front/rear wall if you give it a few inches.

Anonymouse99 I believe all three use highly efficient digital amplification.
alright sweet, thanks... think I may go with the Epik within the next month
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Also, What is the difference between ported and non-ported subs... pros/cons?
Ported subs can produce low frequencies more efficiently (with less cone area and watts) than sealed subs down to it's tuning point then output drops rapidly. Near the tuning point at high output sometimes port noise (turbulence) is audible which negatively affects sound quality and make it easier to localize the sub even though low frequency (below approx 80 hz) sound should not be "localizable."

Sealed subs are not as efficient but can still equal the output of a ported sub at low frequencies around the tuning point but it needs more cone area and/or power to do so. Sealed subs output drops more gradually ( linear) as you go down in frequency so they have more output below the ported subs tuning point.

The prevailing opinion is that sealed subs have better sound quality (especially for music) and ported subs have more output for movies but there are exceptions on both sides. Some ported subs do music quite well and some sealed subs have good output below 30 hz for movies.

Some say big open rooms are better with ported subs and smaller sealed rooms are more suited to sealed subs but that's not universally true. The reason I recommended the Legend over the other 2 (by a slim margin) is that it has twice the cone area so it has good output down low for movies but has way more midbass slam for music and you stated you like your music loud.
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Originally Posted by capecodorthopod
Ported subs can produce low frequencies more efficiently (with less cone area and watts) than sealed subs down to it's tuning point then output drops rapidly. Near the tuning point at high output sometimes port noise (turbulence) is audible which negatively affects sound quality and make it easier to localize the sub even though low frequency (below approx 80 hz) sound should not be "localizable."

Sealed subs are not as efficient but can still equal the output of a ported sub at low frequencies around the tuning point but it needs more cone area and/or power to do so. Sealed subs output drops more gradually ( linear) as you go down in frequency so they have more output below the ported subs tuning point.

The prevailing opinion is that sealed subs have better sound quality (especially for music) and ported subs have more output for movies but there are exceptions on both sides. Some ported subs do music quite well and some sealed subs have good output below 30 hz for movies.

Some say big open rooms are better with ported subs and smaller sealed rooms are more suited to sealed subs but that's not universally true. The reason I recommended the Legend over the other 2 (by a slim margin) is that it has twice the cone area so it has good output down low for movies but has way more midbass slam for music and you stated you like your music loud.
Thanks so much. Im really just getting into this home audio hobby... Pretty damn addicting.
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