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Hi every1..


This is my first post here ! Im named Clement , im from montreal canada...


I recently bought my first audio system ( paradigm monitor 7 v7 home theater setup ) and i lovin it



The only peice i dont have yet is a sub !


So here is my question... should i get a sub from svs ( the sealed one 650$) or the paradigm monitor sub 12.... ( 720$+ tax)


Both seems to have good review.. but im kinda scared to buy a sub online (svs). Since i canr hear it before buying.... im looking for a deep bass but not boomy...
 

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Welcome to the forum!

I have Paradigm Signature S2 V2 speakers, and I just purchased the SVS SB12-NSD sealed subwoofer over a week ago, and I must say I cannot be happier. This combination is absolutely astounding. It didn't take me too long to get it dialed-in correctly. The bass, and more specifically, the articulation from this sub adds such depth and precision that I'm often at a loss for words listening.


I suppose what I'm saying is that I would not hesitate purchasing an ID sub like the SVS. It is a wonderful sub.
 

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Just received the svs sb12 yesterday. Had a chance to quickly try out the opening scene of Attack of the Clones. Couldn't be happier with the purchase. The Canadian distributer was fast. Had it next day.
 

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There is a local store near where i live , they sell the brand ''Dali'' Ikon Sub 250 w rms ... any1 ever heard about this brand and that model ?
 

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also i was wondering how is the Cylinder sub from SvS '' Pc12-nsd'' i maybe wanted to buy the PB12-NSD but its way to big for my room ...


the only thing im conserned about the cylinder is the sub firing the floor ...does that affect the sound in any way!?
 

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I know that the PB13 and PC13 have been measured and compared with little difference (very slight edge to the PB13). While not the same subs, I would expect the same to hold with the 2 models you mention. I believe it comes down to internal cabinet volume, which are very close.
 

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Originally Posted by nemoreborn  /t/1419748/svs-or-paradigm#post_22210216


also i was wondering how is the Cylinder sub from SvS '' Pc12-nsd'' i maybe wanted to buy the PB12-NSD but its way to big for my room ...

the only thing im conserned about the cylinder is the sub firing the floor ...does that affect the sound in any way!?

The ported Pc12-nsd will give you much more output particularly in the deep bass range. This can be advantageous especially when viewing movies with a good deal of bass in their soundtrack. Depending on the acoustics of your room, there is a greater possibility of boominess in the case of excess room gain.


The floor-firing aspect of the sub is typically a non-issue.
 

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I'm completely satisfied with my PC12-NSD. I've owned another downward-firing sub and several forward-firing subs; I perceive no penalty paid by the NSD for its downward firing design. I also don't think it would be a popular design if it hurt anything. Almost all the major ID brands have at least one DF model, and loads of retail brands do, too.


If the PB12 is too big for your room and you're looking at the PC12 as a substitute, a word of caution: while the PC12 certainly takes up less floor space, it's also dramatically taller than the PB12. I mean, it's three feet from the base to the port grille on top. Just something to keep in mind--it's still very visible in a room, and depending on the room, it may be even more visible than the PB12.
 

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Its sure that i would prefer to go with the Monitor Sub 12 from paradigm ... since i have all monitor 11 Setup already ...any1 tried it ? is it that bad !? i mean , i know maybe the SvS SB12-NSD Or the PB12

might be better , but i have to admit that Grill is UUUUGLY !


there is a guy who sell me the Sub 12 for 700 $ and the regular price is 999... so im really considering it ...


so here is my choice:


Paradigm Sub 12 ( fitting with the rest of the setup ) ( not sure about sound if its really more poor than SvS ) for 700$ +taxes


SvS Sb12-nsd with the ugly Grill
for 723$ tax in Shipped at my place


SvS Pb12 823$ tax in Shipped at my place
 

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nemoreborn, I have an SVS SB13 on it's way and arriving hopefully today. This model isn't available in the US/ Canada anymore but i recently tested some other older paradigms (DSP3400, I am thinking similar to the monitor 12) and also had a real quick listen to the signature sub 12,while this was a very short demo as it wasn't in my price range it did impress me.


I will let you know how i go and what my thoughts are comparing the paradigm and SVS. I know the comparisson models aren't that similar I wasn't impressed with the 3400 and so my gut says you will enjoy the SVS more. I know this isn't the best thing to go off but i will give you a quick run down in a few days when i have had a chance to play around with my new sub
 

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from what i heard , the monitor sub 12 have nothing to do with the dsp series ... dsp series are ported and boomy , the monitor sub 12 is sealed and way more snapy.
 

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thats a very good point and one i over looked.


Good luck with your decision. I have paradigm studio 60s but went with svs due to the rave reviews and customer feedback. Let us know what you decide to do.
 

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Oh just another little question... how good is that rhytmik f12 sub ??? Its in my price range and its seems to be a good sub.
 

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Excellent. Rythmik uses direct servo technology with their driver which improves the accuracy of the bass response. If you can afford it, I would lean toward one of those over the SVS.


Keep in mind that the Rythmik F15 is only $100 more than the F12. If you have room for it, it would be worthwhile getting the larger sub because of the extra output. Better to have that in case you need it then to spend this much money and wish you had later.
 

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Excellent. Rythmik uses direct servo technology with their driver which improves the accuracy of the bass response. If you can afford it, I would lean toward one of those over the SVS.

Keep in mind that the Rythmik F15 is only $100 more than the F12. If you have room for it, it would be worthwhile getting the larger sub because of the extra output. Better to have that in case you need it then to spend this much money and wish you had later.

Plus 1. I was going to say the same thing. It would be $100. wisely spent if you can swing it!


Jeff
 

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Keep in mind that you are in Canada, and importing the Rythmik is going to cost a LOT more than the SVS SB12NSD or Paradigm Monitor Sub 12. You have to deal with shipping fees, brokerage. If anything goes wrong you have to mail it back to the US


I would choose the SVS myself given the two choices. It's has been reviewed in detail and it really is a solid performer. It sets a benchmark of what a good compact 12" sub should perform like. Since you can order it from sonicboomaudio.com, it's the best bet for Canadians


I actually like the grille design of the SVS too
 

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I didn't notice that, warpdrive. The OP might even be able to get two SB12s for what one Rythmik cost. Doesn't make sense if the Rythmik ends up being a lot more.
 
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